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RandySF

(58,835 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:08 AM Mar 2018

TX-SEN: I don't know what our chances are in November, but I DO know..

that Ted Cruz is running around Texas tonight like a chicken with its head cut off, attacking Beto in front of every reporter within earshot. Does that sound like someone who should be confident of his reelection?

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TX-SEN: I don't know what our chances are in November, but I DO know.. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2018 OP
Esp.for an incumbent Republican in a deep red state Yavin4 Mar 2018 #1
Cruz has made wrong predictions before quartz007 Mar 2018 #4
As I recall gratuitous Mar 2018 #8
I saw that Cruz has bad poll numbers radical noodle Mar 2018 #2
Good. Crazy, anxious people make mistakes Phoenix61 Mar 2018 #3
True...So I take it there werent any surprises for Dems helpisontheway Mar 2018 #5
Well RandySF Mar 2018 #6
This was overhyped. The George P Bush race was redstateblues Mar 2018 #7
Okay. Thank you for the summary. Glad the state legislative candidates had a good night. Nt helpisontheway Mar 2018 #12
Put it this way. Yupster Mar 2018 #15
If Cruz Loses, Who Assumes His Mantel Of Most Punchable Face? DoctorJoJo Mar 2018 #9
Even if he loses, he still has a punchable face. Marie Marie Mar 2018 #10
Paul Ryan. I hate that smarmy fucker. Luciferous Mar 2018 #21
Cruz can eat a bag of dicks. LudwigPastorius Mar 2018 #11
Ted is such a fucking wienie Skittles Mar 2018 #13
Ted Cruz is in trouble, and he knows it Dopers_Greed Mar 2018 #14
Also, when you compare O'Rourke to 2012's Democratic opponent for Cruz NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #26
Cruz got over 475000 GOP votes yesterday in the primaries onetexan Mar 2018 #16
That's not at all correct blogslut Mar 2018 #17
you must have the latest update; mine was from last evening before i went to bed onetexan Mar 2018 #23
Here's the page for both parties blogslut Mar 2018 #24
Ted Cruz duforsure Mar 2018 #18
1,315,430 voted for Cruz vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #19
Did you add in the early voting totals? blogslut Mar 2018 #20
I could have missed it vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #22
I put a link to the TX SOS site in reply #24 blogslut Mar 2018 #25
These are election night returns vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #27
Did you look? blogslut Mar 2018 #28
I can't find it vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #29
The words are very clear at the top of the statewide results. blogslut Mar 2018 #31
What is it about the people of TX or MissMillie Mar 2018 #30
A combination of several things, I think NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #33
I worry about the respective voting numbers. ananda Mar 2018 #32
primary turnout is usually not reflective of turnout in the general election NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #34

Yavin4

(35,439 posts)
1. Esp.for an incumbent Republican in a deep red state
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:10 AM
Mar 2018

He should be confident as hell. He is showing weakness.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
4. Cruz has made wrong predictions before
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:14 AM
Mar 2018

Didn't he predict he would be the gop presidential nominee in 2016?

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
2. I saw that Cruz has bad poll numbers
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:12 AM
Mar 2018

40% approval and 46% disapproval. That's not good in a year like this one.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
5. True...So I take it there werent any surprises for Dems
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:14 AM
Mar 2018

tonight. Media said something about big Dem turnout could make a couple of race interesting tonight. However, they did not really talk about the races tonight (on MSNBC) unless I missed it.

RandySF

(58,835 posts)
6. Well
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:17 AM
Mar 2018

Turnout was not as big as hoped for after today's vote was taken into account and some of our best Congressional candidates went down in flames. On the bright side, we had a good night for state legislative candidates.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
7. This was overhyped. The George P Bush race was
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 01:32 AM
Mar 2018

The only race of note. The most important race before November is the Conor Lamb contest

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
15. Put it this way.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 03:36 AM
Mar 2018

Cruz got more votes than Beto.

In fact, Cruz got more votes than Beto and Beto's two Democratic opponents put together.

In fact, Cruz got slightly more votes than Beto, Beto's two Democratic opponents, and Cruz's two Republican opponents put together.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
10. Even if he loses, he still has a punchable face.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:17 AM
Mar 2018

And that, along with his awful personality, will follow him for the rest of his life.

LudwigPastorius

(9,145 posts)
11. Cruz can eat a bag of dicks.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:42 AM
Mar 2018

If Beto doesn't win, I'll still count the fact that he's making Raphael crap himself a victory.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
14. Ted Cruz is in trouble, and he knows it
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 03:30 AM
Mar 2018

-His own underwater poll numbers
-Trump's albatross status
-Beto's campaign has been killing it, and raising money comparable to Cruz

The entire general election is still ahead of us, but at this point, I think Beto has a shot at taking it.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
26. Also, when you compare O'Rourke to 2012's Democratic opponent for Cruz
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:52 AM
Mar 2018

O'Rourke is light years ahead. Paul Sadler was the Democratic nominee and he raised less than $150,000 in total, but lost the race by "only" 16 points, a margin similar to what Obama lost TX to Romney by.

In 2016, Hillary lost TX by under 10% and that was before Trump became politically poisonous.

Now, with O'Rourke already having raised a few million and Cruz having the Trumptanic anchor around his neck, I think he has a shot.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
16. Cruz got over 475000 GOP votes yesterday in the primaries
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 04:24 AM
Mar 2018

While Be to got 43,447. 1.5 million Conservatives voted in GOP primaries while Dems turnout was about a million. We still have a lot of GOTV work to do to get Beto elected in november.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
17. That's not at all correct
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 04:59 AM
Mar 2018

The TX SOS site is still updating but Beto got just under a million votes and democratic turnout was a little over 1,600,000 as of my last reading.

Cruz comes in just shy of 2 million and overall GOP turnout is just under 2,350,000

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
23. you must have the latest update; mine was from last evening before i went to bed
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:18 AM
Mar 2018

Can you have the TX SOS site link? Only latest update i found is from NYT here
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/texas-primary-election

According to this site Beto got 641,052 votes, and overall Dems turnout @ 1,036,942 votes, 99% reporting (7,649 of 7,694 precincts).

Anyhow, this shows us GOP turnout is still considerably higher than Dems. Given it's only primaries it's understandable, as more voters tend to turn out in the November elections. Hopefully this is the case and we can get more Dems voters to come to the polls.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
24. Here's the page for both parties
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:49 AM
Mar 2018
https://enrpages.sos.state.tx.us/

Each link opens a not-very-good spreadsheet, which I think separates the early voting totals from the primary day totals. I don't know for sure. I guess it's a miracle there's vote data at all. Sigh.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Ted Cruz
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 05:59 AM
Mar 2018

Voted for the tax scam which also kicked millions off of their health care, and will cause the rest to see their premiums skyrocket up, again (Rubio caused it to do that 2016 Sept.). Cruz is not for the people of Texas and is voting to destroy Social Security , and Medicaid and Medicare, and Ted Cruz won't vote to ban assault weapons of war. A small list of things he's doing and aligning with trump , so it's no surprise he's sweating he'll lose . Ted Cruz is also the most hated man in Congress. Ted also is backing trump and putin, enough to turn anyone in Texas against him. Such a liar too. He's in trouble.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
19. 1,315,430 voted for Cruz
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 06:41 AM
Mar 2018

And combined, 1,541,232 voted R.

Beto was able to get 640,770 of the vote.

The voting differences are 674,660. Between the two.

Combining the democratic vote total would be 1,036,484

So a total differential would be 504,748

So we need to high an extremely high turnout come November, the independent vote has to be in our favor as well.

It's going to take be a hard fight uphill to get Beto elected here. This state won't be flipping this year or the next election cycle. Still a lot of R votes out there. Mind you I'm not being a drag or bum out anyone. It's more of analyzing the totals to see how much of a fight it will be to get a victory.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
20. Did you add in the early voting totals?
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 07:22 AM
Mar 2018

Maybe I'm reading that spreadsheet wrong but it looks like the early votes were tallied separately.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
31. The words are very clear at the top of the statewide results.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:08 AM
Mar 2018

And in the spreadsheet results for County by County for US Senator "Early" is in a sub cell for each county.

I know I'm bad at math but I'm neither blind nor completely insane. Or am I?

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
30. What is it about the people of TX or
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:01 AM
Mar 2018

Mississippi, or Alabama, or Georgia, or Utah, Or Idaho, or Wyoming....

are they all so desperate for a tax cut of $200/year?

Why can't the Democratic Party pull them in?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. A combination of several things, I think
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:32 AM
Mar 2018

1) The Texas economy has overall been doing better than the US economy and Republicans have been in power in TX for 20+ years now, so it reflects well on them.
2) The Texas GOP has put up a lot of roadblocks to voting for minorities and students.
3) The Democrats have not had a deep bench and have not put forward really strong candidates that can succeed on a statewide basis.
4) Voter registration is lower for minorities in Texas, partly because of #3 above

ananda

(28,860 posts)
32. I worry about the respective voting numbers.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 09:11 AM
Mar 2018

Cruz and other Reeps in that race got well over a million votes. Cruz
himself got 1.3 million.

Valdez, White, and the Dems got much less than a million.. combined.

I really thought the Dems would turn out in bigger numbers.

Am I being a nervous Nellie or Eeyore? I worry.

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