Wonkette: Mueller's new witness might have blown the case wide open.

[pnwmom]

The WA Post led us to Trump's door when it reported that George Nader was saying Erik Prince had been acting as Trump's "unofficial envoy" in a meeting with a Russian oligarch in the Seychelles.

And now the Wonkette walks us through that door.

The excerpt below is from the end of the article. It's not behind a paywall so there's no excuse not to read everything that led up to it.


https://wonkette.com/630900/robert-muellers-new-cooperating-witness-might-just-blow-trumps-russian-conspiracy-wide-open

In recent weeks, we’ve talked about how it seems Mueller is about to hit the bull’s eye on the great Russian conspiracy to get Trump elected, and the smaller moving parts of the conspiracy involving what the Trumpers knew about the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s emails (and maybe hacking other things like voting machines, we are just saying!). We are suggesting it’s possible that the great conspiracy to get Trump elected was itself part of an even greater conspiracy to reorder the world and give the spoils to a bunch of rich motherfuckers without regard for American democracy, people who are indeed averse to Western democracy itself. Through this lens, it’s not a Trump-Russia conspiracy. It’s a worldwide crime family conspiracy, involving the Saudis, the Emiratis, Russian oligarchs and other oligarchs from the former Soviet states, the Trump Crime Family and God Knows Who Else.

When we wrote about Michael Flynn’s Middle Eastern grift, we noted that he really got off fucking easy. Sure, he may be having to sell his precious townhouse in Alexandria, Virginia, to pay his legal bills. But all he had to do was plead guilty to one LITTLE BITTY TINY COUNT of lying to the FBI. There is no way in hell Robert Mueller gave Flynn that deal unless Flynn brought a nuclear bomb of information to his Queen For A Day interview and it’s literally worth it to Mueller to let Flynn get off almost scot-free.

And now Mueller has this Nader boy cooperating.

We don’t know how this is all going to turn out, but we have a feeling when the truth is all exposed, it will be breathtaking, and may shake the Western world to its very core.

[chia]

1. Thank you for this! Great read - now I have to go back and follow some of its many links...

K & R and bookmarked

[Mr. Ected]

2. Our points of view are always USA-centric

But the truth is, the oligarchs and billionaires in countries all over the globe seem to currently be engaged in a massive redistribution of wealth via the Putin-backed far right governments that are proliferating and polluting the planet. Trump is both the symptom and the disease. Bob Mueller may become the most important man of the 21st century when all is said and done.

[triron]

5. hmmm. This is all so fantastical. What was that saying by Shakespeare so long ago?

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

[poboy2]

9. Worth a watch. It has subtitles, and is specifically germane to the OP-

[dhol82]

43. It looks really interesting but.....

No subtitles!
Would love to know what he is saying.
My Russian is just way too rusty.

[poboy2]

45. Odd, I see the english subtitles. Not sure why you cannot.

Anyone out there not see them too-or have a suggestion as to why this person cannot?
Oh, did you click the show/turn on captions at the bottom right of the video?

[dhol82]

46. Ah - will take another look and see if I find said button

[dhol82]

47. Wow!!!

Sorry did not note from where this originated.
If Navalny is still in Russia he should watch his back
Totally agree this is worth a watch.
Also wonder what is happening with Rybka? Sounds like she might be an asset that needs to be saved.
Hope Mueller has a copy.

Oh, and did not see the translation button until I opened the screen. Just an FYI.

[poboy2]

48. Excellent, glad you were successful and it worth your time. Its pretty wild! -eom

[Kurt V.]

25. Very well said.

[yonder]

38. "Trump is both the symptom and the disease". yup, nailed it!

[FSogol]

73. True, our allies are being affected and are concerned with Russian interference too.

The Mueller investigation may give England, Germany, and others the tools to clean up a lot of international money laundering and criminal operations.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. European Royal families have never been very happy with American democracy

Does anyone think those descendants just melted away? Throughout history there is scheming, manipulating, conniving for deposed elites to regain power, supplant a cousin or an enemy. A few of them surface in the media occasionally, some hold elected office. I'm not pointing fingers, just sayin' they are out there.

[Leghorn21]

4. KICK! - - I hear we now live in a mobocracy, and an edifying article like this does nothing to

convince me we aren’t -

As ever, thanks mom

[pnwmom]

8. You're welcome, Leghorn21!

[Honeycombe8]

55. Exactly. It's like we have both the Mob and Russia running the administration.

Everything's for sale. Everything is defined by profit for the Mob, loyalty to the Don, and when it comes to Russia....murder.

[Zorro]

6. I hope I'm out of the stock market when this thing blows

[Cartoonist]

7. The Emirati

I like the sound of that.

It's got to be more than just oil. The Saudis own us too completely since WWII.

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. may it be so, may it be so !!!!!!!!!!

[burrowowl]

11. K&R

[Phoenix61]

12. I've always thought there had to

be a reason, other than McTurtle, that Obama didn't release the info he had when he first got it. If he knew doing so would expose a long running criminal investigation that spanned countries would account for his actions. Obama is a long game player. He would recognize the importance of seeing it through to the end, even if things got tough here.

[pnwmom]

13. And this is why it's taking as long as it is.It's a tangled conspiracy extending all over the world.

Mueller and his team are great, but this is like an ordinary mob boss prosecution to the 10th degree.

[flibbitygiblets]

34. Devil's advocate here: The president's job is to protect the US and defend the Constitution, no?

Would Obama really put his #1 job aside in the name of a criminal investigation, even a world-wide one? I would certainly hope not. (Yes, I know, US-centric, but still it was his job.)

I think it's more likely he didn't know, for certain at least, how big and deep this was. And McTurtle stopped him from alerting us about this threat just like McTurtle stopped him from a vote the open SCOTUS position.

Don't get me wrong, I love Obama, and would literally crawl over broken glass to have him back. But he wasn't perfect, and it's fair to say that standing up to bullies wasn't his strong suit. Plus, tRump was already crying "rigged", so Obama was probably left to hope that tRump would never be POTUS, and this would all come out later.

[Phoenix61]

36. I absolutely agree he didn't think Twitler

would win. I believe if he had he would have spilled everything he had.

[triron]

39. Hell Wang (Princeton) had a Hillary victory at 99% likely.

http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/08/final-mode-projections-clinton-323-ev-51-di-senate-seats-gop-house/

[BigmanPigman]

42. THAT IS IT!

He even said so! The Moron didn't even think he would win. It was a publicity stunt to get more money for or his name/brand. COMEY is to blame!

[SoCalMusicLover]

52. Drumpf Was The Chosen One, & Comey Was A Convenient Scapegoat

The FIX was in from the get go. The Comey story provided cover, so they could say that it was the reason for Drumpf's surprising win.

But he was going to win anyways. The votes were going to be fixed, and it would have been something else that was given as a reason, had Comey not stuck his head in and create last minute chaos.

There was absolutely nothing Hillary could have done to win the election, the outcome was already predetermined.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

57. "You're meddling with powers you can't possibly comprehend," said Marcos Brody

in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."

For some reason this seems like an appropriate quote as we learn more and more about the ways of the world. It's becoming much bigger than any of us could ever imagine, and rather than, "I want my country back," our focus may have to become, "We want our world back." We may be looking at a global revolt.

[Beartracks]

68. Could be. The fix was in, and Comey's stunt was engineered to...

... look like a trigger, a cause, a reason -- but could've just been a conveniently-timed cover.

And remember, Trump even claimed the game was rigged before the election! Of course, in true Republican projection, he claimed it was rigged in favor of Democrats! But that it was indeed rigged may not have been a lie, but a boast masquerading as campaign rhetoric.

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[Rural_Progressive]

40. Considering the Global nature of this criminal enterprise

then the number of agencies, bureaus, jurisdictions, etc that Muller has to deal with while avoid ruffling feathers, and dodging turf wars, his job has been daunting to say the least.

[AwakeAtLast]

67. If that is what Obama did

He will be he most loved and lauded man for the next millennium.

And I hope Mueller has people that test his food.

[BSdetect]

14. Yes, and they have the deplorables convinced that the Dems are to balme for everything.

[Cosmocat]

21. Seriously

We have LONG passed the point where 1/3 of the country will even allow the thought that their sacred GOP did anything wrong - it will be our fault, no matter how horrible it is.

[nikatnyte]

32. Promoting tribalism through fear and hate is a key part of their strategy

And we see it working every day.

[Gothmog]

15. This will be fun to watch

[Ligyron]

16. Jesus H Christ, can you even imagine?

Everything is multi-national now money wise. Yet the Trumpettes are all about being distracted by nationalism.

[FakeNoose]

24. ...

Check with Eric Prince, he seems to know a lot more than he's saying right now!

[C Moon]

17. And what will Ryan say..."He's new to this. He didn't know what he was doing was wrong."

[dchill]

41. Yeah right. And what's Ryan's excuse?

[calimary]

72. Hah! No kidding.

The spineless suck-up Paul Ryan. Sounds like a safe bet to me.

[tomp]

18. I'll believe it when I see it.

It is my opinion that America was fatally corrupt prior to trump's ascendence. I've been waiting my entire adult life to see a change for the better. I've decided to stop holding my breath.

Meuller is going to save America, the world? We'll see. I recommend curbing your expectations.

[poboy2]

27. I've been saying 'existential threat', or 'extinction level event'.

This article says "and may shake the Western world to its very core"

Not hyperbole. This could be THE END. Do or DIE.

If he fails, America is DONE, imo.

[magicarpet]

19. The tentacles of corruption .....

.... of a ruthless crime family syndicate who will stop at nothing until their greed and gluttony is satiated. (Which will likely be never - we are stuck dealing with these avaricious pigs until Mueller finally collars them.)

Hopefully Mueller and his team have the skills and talent to bring this sorry administration kicking and screaming while being dragged to justice.

[MFM008]

20. It will shake us as a democracy

And maggot figured it would be easy to hide since he was the all powerful Wizard.

[JDC]

22. It is all definitely bigger than just "Trump"

He is just an instrument after all. To whom, I guess we'll all see. Maybe Jared is running it all. He Seems to have his personal tentacles touching all of this. Saudis, Russians, Israelis, Chinese, Big data/analytics, giant loans, laundering, you name it. All under the cover of the Doe-eyed idiot in over his head.

[vkkv]

23. Yep, something big will be exposed. Far bigger than anything in DT's tax returns.

My fear is the GOP Congress doing nothing to convict and to cement plans to steal the 2018 and 2020 elections.

Super freakin' SCARY !!

[lagomorph777]

26. "may shake the Western world to its very core"

That is exactly how it looks to me. This is incredibly dangerous to the entire planet.

[poboy2]

28. existential threat, no hyperbole. -eom

[rainin]

29. Good read but he didn't have to diss Rachel

or those of us who watch Rachel. Me. Faithfully.

[pnwmom]

30. Wonkette didn't disagree with Rachel. She said to watch her. n/t

[rainin]

31. Oops. My phone autocorrected diss to disagree. I edited it.

It sounded like a diss because he referred to us as children.

[pnwmom]

35. She was just laughing at herself, I think, for telling us to do something.

(The current Wonkette, since 2012, is a woman.)

[Bongo Prophet]

70. The post was written by Senior Editor Evan Hurst (male)

Rebecca Schoenkopf, lead Editrix is running the show, however. She hired writers. Good and funny writers, who help those of us keeping abreast of this perpetual crapshow we all are trying to survive. The informal editorial style guide of the site helps the medicine go down!

[pnwmom]

71. Thanks for the info! I should have noticed.

[Enoki33]

37. Beginning to make more sense why Eric Prince wanted to

privatize the Afghan war.

[Cha]

44. Yeah, just sayin'.. and this is why I like Wonkette so much..

Cuts right to the bone.. in her own inimitable way..

"We are suggesting it’s possible that the great conspiracy to get Trump elected was itself part of an even greater conspiracy to reorder the world and give the spoils to a bunch of rich motherfuckers without regard for American democracy, people who are indeed averse to Western democracy itself."

[liberalla]

49. Thank you so much for this link! I have to come back to it when I have more time!

Again, thank you very much!

[pansypoo53219]

50. the moron is too stupid to clean up the breadcrumbs.

[Turbineguy]

51. The only problem is.....

why choose trump?

OK, I guess if criminals never made mistakes, we wouldn't need jails.

It just seems the Russians could have found somebody more competent. Ted Cruz or somebody.

[WheelWalker]

56. Because of their vast kompromat on the Dotard, his greed, vanity and amorality?

[procon]

53. Who was the mastermind that orchestrated all these treasonous acts?

I certainly wasn't that idiot Trump who can't hold a cogent thought for more than an hour or so, nor any of his ill bred, drooling brood. Most of the smarter, experienced political operatives, or at least the more cagey of the hirelings in the Trump administration, have been fired, fled or they're under indictment.

So who does that leave for the puppet master... Putin?

[pnwmom]

54. Putin and the rest of the Russian mobsters, probably. They settled into NYC some years ago. n/t

[Me.]

58. Here's What I Wonder

How is it Comey had a role in this play....co-incidence....or something other. I know, I know...tinfoil....but without him, I don't know if Comrade Trump would be president today.

[pnwmom]

59. I think he was trapped into what he did. And I think he and Rosenstein knew Comey's

days were numbered, and they had a plan to appoint Mueller, that they were ready to act on as soon as Comey got fired.

[Me.]

60. Excellent Response

How was he trapped/by whom do you think?

[pnwmom]

63. He has discussed the fact that some people were threatening to leak the existence

of the "newly discovered" emails in Weiner's laptop, and he thought it was better to just get them out there, to maintain his credibility, and then to get them analyzed as quickly as possible. He felt that by going public people were more likely to trust him when he announced there was nothing new -- as opposed to if the leakers went ahead with their story, and it would look like the FBI had been hiding the discovery.

I think I recall him saying that was a mistake.

[Me.]

66. He Did Say It Was A Mistake

and it made him feel ill, and if you're right he was played right into a crucial role in harming our democracy.

[ecstatic]

61. Thank God, Mueller appears to be our only hope at this point.

I am losing my mind. I need this shit resolved asap, and for the rightful president of this country to be seated.

[pnwmom]

64. And his team -- and many helpers, I believe, in Western intelligence --

the Brits, the French, the Germans, Australians, Canadians and everyone else. We all have a stake in stopping this.

[JohnnyRingo]

62. Then important people should start coming up missing.

If it's true that there is a global conspiracy to funnel all the world's resources to an elite few, then they have the power to eliminate anyone they want. Sure, it'll appear suspicious, but that wouldn't hinder a multi-trillion dollar caper.

Every conspiracy theory has a puzzle piece that has to be dismissed or hammered in with a mallet. The odd fitting piece in this general theory is they picked an American idiot as a key co-conspirator.

I'll cede that Trump may just be used by those or superior intellect and ambitious goals - I can see that - but we should still be seeing Mueller's case being taken apart witness by witness already.

[pnwmom]

65. He might be an idiot, but so are the millions following him. He is a genius at deception. n/t

[hedda_foil]

69. Wow... Did you catch this article in an internal link? Wonkette nailed EVERYTHING back in December.

The whole effing enchildadq baby!!
https://wonkette.com/626698/michael-flynns-grift-to-steal-middle-east-for-russia-and-himself-would-make-sarah-palin-blush
Snip...


So, Michael Flynn was working on a “Marshall Plan” for the Middle East, to enrich Americans and Russians (AND GIVE RUSSIANS URANIUM) and dude is talking about literally recolonizing the Middle East? Hmmmm, that is weird! Sounds like the vague outlines of a plan to get less-than-patriotic greedy grifter types in America — Trump family, Mercer family, Erik Prince, etc.; Sarah Palin will probably write a book of Bible devotionals about it — together with the Russian government and its oligarchs to rape, pillage, loot and steal the Middle East, and when they’re done with that, they’ll grab it by the pussy some more.

And this will somehow make the Middle East better, because KA-CHING! Whitey has come back to recolonize, and it would hurt their bottom line if the natives were restless!

Back in October, we bookmarked a WHOA IF TRUE Twitter thread from corporate-intelligence guy Eric Garland, and we’re not going to reproduce it all here, but you should go read it, because it seems he might have been on to something. The broad outline is that Russia put in place a plan to steal the Middle East’s resources, and over the years cultivated “traitors with weird, mad power fantasies” in America, like Flynn and others.

Meanwhile, Blackwater Sadist-For-Jesus Erik Prince, as Garland said in October, is “already rogue, building mercenary armies” and living in the United Arab Emirates. Remember that weird meeting in Seychelles in January 2016 (just before the inauguration!) between Prince, a Russian fund director who likes to cross streams with Vladimir Putin during sleepovers (allegedly), and the fucking crown prince of Abu Dhabi, to set up a “back channel” between Trump and the Russians? That was weird, right?

Meanwhile, Prince has his hand out begging Trump to let him turn Afghanistan into his VERY OWN MURDER COLONY, and Prince and fellow traveling creeper Oliver North (OLLIE FUCKING NORTH!) are pushing a plan to convince Trump to let them create a grifty, top secret B613 of off-the-book spies who can run shit in whatever countries they want.

Rogue, indeed.

As Garland noted, this would be hard to pull off under a normal American president. But what if …

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What if that’s the whole point of this? What if that’s why Russia cultivated Trump in the first place? To — eventually, one day! — get a new form of government in America that would be an autocracy/kleptocracy just like Russia, one that would be DTF with a plan to slice up the Middle East, and let a bunch of rich guys from America and Russia make off with the profits? Hell, the number of people involved in this scam seems so vast, Trump actually becoming president might not have even been part of the original plan. But then BING BONG, 2016 happened, Trump became the GOP nominee, and the fact Russia got to off Hillary Clinton’s political career in the process was just icing on the cake.


Read more at https://wonkette.com/626698/michael-flynns-grift-to-steal-middle-east-for-russia-and-himself-would-make-sarah-palin-blush#Z8IlkGUJmsd94UE5.99