Gun Nuts Go Batsh*t Insane With Rage Over Nationwide Student Walkout

[Soph0571]

Rather than engage in a productive conversation or simply acknowledge the students' right to express their viewpoint, the right has taken to savagely attacking them as enemies of all that is American. They're either puppets of the Democratic Party or the ones to blasme

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Dear right wing gun humping dimwits:

Telling teenagers they're all stupid liberal morons for protesting on behalf of their own safety is possible the single most perfect way to make sure that they never ever vote Republican for their entire lives. You are literally telling an entire generation of voters that they're too dumb to talk about politics right at the very moment they're starting to pay attention to politics. They're going to look at which political movement is telling them "Guns are more important than your life" and they're going to remember that forever. And since you foolishly made guns a part of the culture wars, you'll have pushed them all into the arms of the pro-choice, pro-socialism, pro-equality, pro-feminist, pro-gun control left.

Indeed

[lindysalsagal]

1. "pushed them all into the arms of the pro-choice, pro-socialism, pro-equality, pro-feminist, pro-gun

pushed them all into the arms of the pro-choice, pro-socialism, pro-equality, pro-feminist, pro-gun control left."

Awesome! I LIKE it!

[n2doc]

2. Yeah, telling a teenager that they are too stupid to have an opinion really works well

Said no parent of a teen ever!

[C Moon]

58. :D

[FakeNoose]

3. Teenagers haven't been bought by the NRA

We're going to make sure it never happens. It's that simple.

[oberliner]

4. The White House is guarded by numerous armed Secret Service agents

There are teams of snipers on the roof.

Not exactly the best comparison to make for a poster.

[Kingofalldems]

7. Ahh not really a good try there.

The weapons are in the possession of well trained lawmen. Not sure why you posted that rebuttal.

[Cha]

9. +Millions!

[oberliner]

16. Schools should not be guarded by dozens of well trained lawmen with guns

In my opinion, it should not be similar to the White House in that respect.

The White House is not a good model to use - there are many people with guns all over the White House at all times.

We need fewer guns in schools - period.

[Kingofalldems]

25. So why do you go after the students for saying just that?

[oberliner]

29. I am saying the poster is ill-informed

I think it inadvertently promotes the opposite message of what they are trying to convey.

The White House is teeming with armed guards - that's not how schools should be.

[SunSeeker]

47. They are not ill-informed. You can't enter the White House with a gun.

Of course the White House is teaming with security and law enforcement personnel. It is the fucking White House, with a lot of high value targets. Most high schools have a security guard.

As part of the security measures for the White House, no visitor can have firearms. All these kids are saying is that if a visitor gun ban is considered a security measure for the White House, why can't it be a security measure for schools as well?

[oberliner]

49. Yes, they are ill-informed. The NRA types are proposing that schools should be more like the WH

in that they should be filled with numerous trained people carrying guns in order to prevent attacks.

The reality is that we need fewer guns in schools, not more. (I would mention that the school in Parkland did have an armed security guard and that did not prevent the attack).

The proposal to arm teachers, for instance, is absolutely insane.

We need to start making it harder for people to get guns. Period. We should follow Australia's lead.

[SunSeeker]

50. Oy. That poster is not saying we should arm teachers. Just the opposite.

[oberliner]

54. I know - that's my whole point!

I understand the message they are trying to get across - I don't think the poster does a good job of doing it for the reasons I have explained. But I am happy to leave it there. We are on the same page about what actually matters here.

[pangaia]

43. "Going after students?"

Uh,, I don;think that is what it was.

[Gore1FL]

38. Ultimately schools are protected by trained lawmen with guns who patrol the neighborhood.

I believe the point was that guns are not allowed inside by anyone except for professional trained law-enforcement. I don't believe the comparison was meant to imply they needed to assign agents to take bullets for the students or any other secret-service duty.

[stonecutter357]

31. It's exactly the best comparison .

[oberliner]

34. The White House is protected by dozens of people carrying guns

Schools should not be structured in any way similar to the White House with respect to security.

We need fewer guns in schools, not more.

[Gore1FL]

39. She is explicitly calling for it to be gun-free on the sign.

Trained armed law enforcement can come and go as they please.

No where on the sign did it imply that the schools needed to have rooftop snipers.

[SpankMe]

41. The comparison is still apt

If you think the WH isn't a gun-free zone, then try having a gun on you when you go there for a WH tour. They won't buy your "but-I'm-a-good-guy-with-a-gun" shtick.

The Secret Service has them. But many inside the mansion itself don't carry them. Other than select security team members, people - including the WH staff and their guests - aren't allowed to bring guns on the property.

[Soxfan58]

5. If you live by the gun

You political career will die by the gun. nra $ will mean nothing if you lose a whole generation.

[genxlib]

6. And just as important

Will motivate them to vote in higher numbers than I think we have ever seen.

Young voters have always skewed liberal but turnout has always been the issue.

So keep talking down to them GOP. Their vote will count just as much as yours and you are just assuring how they will use it.

[Cha]

8. Good Sign! yeah, and you can't bring guns

into a nra convention, either.. So WHY are they Pushing GUNS in SCHOOLS!????

[AllyCat]

15. CNN website last week was saying that gun conventions are safer for people

Because death by shootings goes down. The implication was that the presence of guns made death by shooting less likely. They failed to mention that guns are not allowed in the convention.

[Cha]

19. Good ol media.. can't quite get the

whole story out.

[Whiskeytide]

26. I took that headline to imply...

... that shooting deaths on the streets went down during a convention because people who fantasize about shooting people were all at the convention.

Your take makes more sense I suppose. And it would not be the first time I’ve seen dark humor in republican seriousness.

[Nevernose]

37. You were right the 1st time

The places vacated by gun nuts become safer (although the conventions are pretty safe, too, because everybody’s on their best behavior, safety-wise).

[oberliner]

17. The sign makes no sense at all

The pro-gun people in fact want to turn schools into the White House and have it guarded by numerous people with guns.

Schools should not have snipers on the roof.

[bullwinkle428]

21. What about the NRA headquarters and the CPAC convention? They're both

gun-free zones as well, which is supposedly anathema to every red-blooded, God-fearing, genuine American patriot...amirite?

[oberliner]

22. They have armed guards

I think we should look for ways to protect schools that do not involve people with guns being on campus, if possible.

[stonecutter357]

32. The sign makes perfect sense .

[oberliner]

33. The White House has snipers on the roof

Schools should not emulate the White House with respect to guns.

[SunSeeker]

48. The poster is not implying snipers are needed at schools...

...any more than it is implying that the principal should ride around in a bullet proof limo like the president.

It is simply highlighting thst the White House has a visitor gun ban, indeed even staff can't have guns either apparently. That it is a security measure that schools can and should have as well.

Oberliner, it is really unfair for you to attack these kids as "ill-informed" and making "no sense."

[oberliner]

51. Schools have a visitor gun ban also

If they are making the point that such bans ought to remain in place, then I would agree with that. I just think the image creates an impression that a school should be protected in the way the White House, which I would disagree with.

I am not attacking these kids - I am just discussing my questioning of their poster choice on DU. If the kids who created that poster are reading this message, allow me to say how much I admire them and support what they are doing.

[ChazInAz]

56. Let it go!

You've pounded this into the ground, all the while refusing to see what is actually there. All of your credibility was lost after your third post.

[SunSeeker]

57. Of course the poster is saying school gun bans should stay in place.

Trump is saying these bans should be lifted, hence the inspiration for posters like this.

Of course these kids are not saying schools should be protected to the extent the White House is. But the Trump was claiming that a gun-free zone is the opposite of a protection. That is why these students pointed out the hypocrisy of such a ridiculous NRA inspired claim. If the White House really believed that gun free zones create danger, the White House would not ban guns from the White House.

[billh58]

44. +100 n/t

[Squinch]

55. Yes, but some are a bit too literal to see it.

[D_Master81]

10. Ever notice on the left you cant protest?

to people on the right any form of protest is clearly wrong if its people on the left doing it. NFL players silently kneeling, now this. I saw a bunch of posts from RWers on facebook saying instead of walking out go find 17 students and make their day, invite loners to hang out w/ you, etc. I agree they should do that, but why is it an either/or? Why cant they do both?

[robbob]

23. Ah, spending the day with a right wing gun nut!

I’m sure that would “make their day”! Why does that line bring to mind Dirty Harry?

[panader0]

28. Or as Dirty Father Harry said "Go ahead, make my daily bread."

[bakpakr]

11. Repugs Forget...

That a great number of those "Children" are going to become voters in the very near future. Right now they have their voices to demonstrate their frustration and anger. But soon they will be able to exercise their position by way of their votes. Good job pissing them off Rethugs!

[dameatball]

12. The gun nuts are just getting antsy because the new space force weapons aren't available yet.

[Ferrets are Cool]

13. Oh, I got so mad reading posts last nite that I almost blew a gasket...

The things they are saying about these young people are horrible.
On the other side, I did see a few post of support from people that I wouldn't have expected it from.

[PatrickforO]

14. I love the rhetoric. It reminds me of that stupid Florida legislator who

said something to the effect that 'adults make laws in Florida, not children.'

I'm sure that went over well, too.

[Chipper Chat]

18. Fucker Carlson said this too

Last night on Foxx

[PatrickforO]

20. Yep - way to go Tucker! Those kids will respond to patronizing insults!

Just not the way you want them to.

They are going to vote.

[Initech]

24. I saw one tweet yesterday...

Where some mom went apeshit at Nickelodeon because her 5 year olds couldn't watch whatever mindless cartoon was airing at the time. Um you could have used this as a teachable moment to show your kids what it means to get involved in an active participation.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. "well-regulated militia"

was that the Founders' intent? Does it matter?

Some have made valid points. Founders knew nothing of assault rifles. In 1789 it took 3 months to send an army to invade a country. Today it's a 24 hour event. Events and communication move 90 times faster, but Congress is still elected every 2 years. Lifetime appointments meant 25 years. Now it can mean 60.

Everyone has the right to defend themselves. It's been a principle since Thomas Hobbes. Where everything is a provocation and everyone is armed to the max ....

[aikoaiko]

30. Even if one disagrees there is no need to insult. We do it plenty, too.

There is some irony in the sign in the OP because Trump wants to surround schools with armed personnel and ‘harden’ security.

The only reason the WH is actually gun free is more guns and high-level security.

[Cosmocat]

35. These people always have SOME bullshit reason

why is it is unacceptable for any group of people to speak out against their insanity.

[IronLionZion]

36. They claim the deplorables don't like being patronized by urban elitists

well, neither do millions of people who are about to turn voting age very soon!

They will raise the voting age before they raise the age to buy an assault rifle.

[radliberal]

40. I get Tucker Carlson when the lights go out....

Crash....Bam....Boom!

[Honeycombe8]

42. I KNOW! They're all over our community FB group....

It's not supposed to be a political area, but there are posts. I responded that I thought the kids were impressive, etc., but that's all I said. Will NOT get into an argument with those wackos who are filled with rage at "children being used for partisan reasons like Hitler did!" Would serve no purpose.

[Skittles]

45. gun humpers cream themselves over the 2nd but despise the 1st

fuck them

[Blue_Tires]

46. Because even the gun nutters know they can't make veiled threats about shooting kids

like they do with adult gun control advocates and it's driving them insane with rage

[marybourg]

53. F** News, seen a few minutes ago at the gym,

seems to have a new meme about something called "privilege" training or classes. I'm guessing it was about the new enemy class: teen-aged activists.