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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:32 AM Mar 2018

It's simply wishful thinking and believing in magic to hang

on to the thought that our country will still be in tact for us to vote for change.

Hour by hour and day by day the assault continues. Because those in power have turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the destruction, have by complicancy, enabled his daily and hourly boldness.
He will continue, because he can.

What will be the final straw?

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It's simply wishful thinking and believing in magic to hang (Original Post) Ninga Mar 2018 OP
It is an assumption that we cannot be destroyed as a country. kentuck Mar 2018 #1
I think it is a valid concern. I have been reading about WWII French resistance and Ninga Mar 2018 #4
We are dedicated to a political solution... kentuck Mar 2018 #6
I have a friend who's Mom was in the resistance in France during WWII. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #19
I think they will save us this time...but we need to rethink things a bit to prevent this ever Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #20
The final straw will be people giving up on the idea. MineralMan Mar 2018 #2
The more he gets away with, the more he is enboldened. This is very dangerous, and Ninga Mar 2018 #5
On Tuesday, the people of one district in Pennsylvania MineralMan Mar 2018 #8
I appreciate your words and have said them many times to others. Most Ninga Mar 2018 #10
People better start thinking of him starting a war in a gambit to escape his Treason. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #24
Well,Thank You Now I don't have to fuck around with Hope or "Magic" njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #3
If you make this about me, then he wins the day once again. Nt Ninga Mar 2018 #7
It's not personal,I agree we're in perilous times njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #12
Thanks. Ninga Mar 2018 #14
We are on a precipice & could topple either way. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #9
Yep. Those rats know we aren't going to challenge them today. Moreover the rats Ninga Mar 2018 #11
That is the problem. kentuck Mar 2018 #13
When the Nuclear Weapons are inbound nt maryellen99 Mar 2018 #15
I will admit that my argument has been very inarticulate. Ninga Mar 2018 #16
We have to hope... I am not giving up. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #17
People should realize that their "country" does not matter anymore to capital. BSdetect Mar 2018 #18
I'm not relying on hope and magic mythology Mar 2018 #21
The tax bill is already playing havoc with the budget. Programs will be slashed Ninga Mar 2018 #22
Our nation survived being torn in half Codeine Mar 2018 #23

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
1. It is an assumption that we cannot be destroyed as a country.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:36 AM
Mar 2018

We are too strong. Our institutions will save us. But, is that true? Are we more vulnerable than we might think?

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
4. I think it is a valid concern. I have been reading about WWII French resistance and
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
Mar 2018

how the privileged French sided with Hitler and believed in his vision. The French resistance essentially had to fight not only the Nazis, but their own countrymen.

It happened. We keep waiting, and dithering. Are we the people we have been waiting for?

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
6. We are dedicated to a political solution...
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:44 AM
Mar 2018

...and the Republicans presently hold most of the political cards. Maybe tomorrow they will hold him accountable? Such as, the sanctions that he is ignoring.

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
19. I have a friend who's Mom was in the resistance in France during WWII.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:28 AM
Mar 2018

In response to D Day her entire town was executed including her children and husband. She was away that day...But she persisted and in the end the Nazis were driven out of France. My friend was much older than me...born in 44. She was the product of rape too. What we face isn't even close to what happened back then...and if we keep fighting , we won't face such a thing and will defeat Traitor Trump.

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
20. I think they will save us this time...but we need to rethink things a bit to prevent this ever
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:28 AM
Mar 2018

happeing again.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
5. The more he gets away with, the more he is enboldened. This is very dangerous, and
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:44 AM
Mar 2018

opens the door for the unthinkable.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. On Tuesday, the people of one district in Pennsylvania
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:48 AM
Mar 2018

said, "Enough." There are only 435 Congressional Districts. How is yours doing? How can you help?

I don't know what it is you have in mind, but whatever it is, it won't work.

Voting works, if we do it. I suggest you start working on that. That's what we have to work with.

Trump is evil. We must get rid of him, and we already have the means to do so. There isn't another way that will work.

Time to get busy, my friend.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
10. I appreciate your words and have said them many times to others. Most
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:58 AM
Mar 2018

specifically during the 2016 presidential cycle. I have run for political office, losing twice, winning twice. I have been an activist for 50 years, arrested twice.

I have never seen or experienced what this country is going through now.

I must see things differently than others here....I am just very very concerned and can only imagine the destruction we will suffer before November election.

Maybe everything will be fine. Maybe it won't.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
3. Well,Thank You Now I don't have to fuck around with Hope or "Magic"
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
Mar 2018

Let me see where did I put that rope?

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
12. It's not personal,I agree we're in perilous times
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

But it's far from hopeless.That attitude is exactly how he wins.
It's going to be alright Ninga we can beat this.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
11. Yep. Those rats know we aren't going to challenge them today. Moreover the rats
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:01 AM
Mar 2018

count on compliancy and political amnesia.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
16. I will admit that my argument has been very inarticulate.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:20 AM
Mar 2018

We are in a race with destructive forces. Our only weapon is one person, one vote.

There are approximately 33 weeks until the November midterm election. Being generous, if he only does one outrageous destructive thing once a week (as opposed to once a day)...that gives him 33
opportunities to further erode our democracy.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. I'm not relying on hope and magic
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:37 AM
Mar 2018

I'm relying on voting and on opposition efforts like lawsuits.

So far for all the doom and gloom predictions, Trump has been very ineffective politically. They passed one major law. They failed to kill the ACA.

The latest idiotic anti-abortion law was overruled. The wall hasn't been built. We aren't rounding up immigrants or Muslims. We've got kids marching for gun control.

Trump's natural inclinations are undermined by his own incompetence.

Giving in to despair and hopelessness only helps Trump. He's used to people rolling over for him. He's not used to working hard for things.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
22. The tax bill is already playing havoc with the budget. Programs will be slashed
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:54 AM
Mar 2018

because of the reduced cash flow from taxes.
He installed Gorsuch on to the Supreme Court.
And Circuit court judges.

Oblitered the State Dept, we have abandoned deplomacy.
Regulations have been turned back and civil rights language removed.

ICE agents deporting parents. And more.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. Our nation survived being torn in half
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:57 AM
Mar 2018

and being the stage for a civil war that raged for years.

It will survive Trump.

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