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Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:36 PM Mar 2018

I don't understand why the Stormy Daniels affair is such huge news.

Why are the Trump people so terrified of details coming out?
So he had an affair, his base won't care. So he had 100 affairs, his base won't care.
Even if it's revealed he engaged in S&M games and ate kittens for sexual excitement his base won't care.

I don't get why they'd rather have their attempts to block her become news week after week which makes it a bigger story and focuses the eye of the world on whatever she says.
If they'd just let it come out she'd have her say and it would fade away into the background of other scandals.
What on earth could she say that would damage him more than he is now?

I really don't get it.

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I don't understand why the Stormy Daniels affair is such huge news. (Original Post) Kablooie Mar 2018 OP
Me either. nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #1
I wonder if there's a pre-nup clause... forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #26
She was threatened with physical harm if she talked redstateblues Mar 2018 #2
She should probably get a lawyer to sue whomever threatened her with physical harm jberryhill Mar 2018 #7
Oh she has a lawyer....a really good one. He is formidable. n/t Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #38
The Scuttle butt is Alsteen Mar 2018 #3
wooooo the A word. They'd just say "he was wrong and now he's seen the light - we forgive him like Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2018 #12
That would have been an extremely late term abortion jberryhill Mar 2018 #15
Maybe she had the baby and there's a Trump love child running around some where. Yavin4 Mar 2018 #19
A blackmailable President isn't a good thing SHRED Mar 2018 #4
Add Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2018 #17
You forgot "Golf Cheat President". Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #29
Well to be fair (WHY SHOULD I ?) thought that ended up being a joke Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2018 #36
It was a joke, And I laughed. But it's also serious. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #43
Definitely not Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #22
Yup. All the talk about the tough guy, too rich to be bought or bribed, shanny Mar 2018 #30
The Streisand Effect PatentlyDemocratic Mar 2018 #5
But his sole focus is keeping his base. If he keeps congress and his base Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2018 #20
Who? When? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #23
Geez...work from home and have news on all day in background Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2018 #25
I also saw an article on Evang. voters recently but can't recall where. We'll see.. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #40
Sorry. It was just a rhetorical question Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #44
Because the GOP impeached Bill Clinton TrishaJ Mar 2018 #6
Just goes to show she must have some really damaging dirt for them to continue trying to stop her... brush Mar 2018 #8
His base may not care but... D_Master81 Mar 2018 #9
I think it ties to campaign finance laws. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #10
His lies will be exposed via NDA. All the other affairs he has denied BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #11
The consequences of the payment as a campaign contribution are significant jberryhill Mar 2018 #13
"The Brand" must be protected at all costs. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2018 #14
Married women don't really like their husbands or other men porking porn stars while they're njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #16
cough (micropenis) cough. nt. thucythucy Mar 2018 #18
yup crazylikafox Mar 2018 #45
Like Putin, Stormy has dirt on Trump. Atman Mar 2018 #21
Yes...WHY doesn't he want Stormy to talk? Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #39
Say, isn't trump married? rock Mar 2018 #24
It's already extremely clear she had sex with him. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #33
Has something to do with campaign finance (nt) question everything Mar 2018 #27
I think the answer may lie in the paperwork somewhere. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2018 #28
.. Cha Mar 2018 #42
Outside of photo's it wouldn't really hurt. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #31
It's huge news because they get to say the word "porn" multiple times in a 3 minute story. gvstn Mar 2018 #32
I think because where the is one payout , there are a lot more nadine_mn Mar 2018 #34
Maybe they're afraid the Stormy virus will spread, and disrupt all their other NDA's, including pnwmom Mar 2018 #35
The ring of authenticity plus salacious sex Achilleaze Mar 2018 #37
Sex tape ? MyNameIsKhan Mar 2018 #41
He must be impotent crazylikafox Mar 2018 #46
The potential Trumps campaign used $$$ to hide affair in runup to election is huge deal blake2012 Mar 2018 #47
Really? mnmoderatedem Mar 2018 #48

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
26. I wonder if there's a pre-nup clause...
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:31 PM
Mar 2018

...that kicks in if 45 has affairs.

It probably would read that Melania loses everything if unfaithful, and to be fair, includes her hubby too.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. She should probably get a lawyer to sue whomever threatened her with physical harm
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

Such a lawyer would also recommend filing a police report about it.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. wooooo the A word. They'd just say "he was wrong and now he's seen the light - we forgive him like
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:44 PM
Mar 2018

Jesus would.

More interesting is the amount. How odd $130,000. Surely an abortion isn't that much nowadays

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. That would have been an extremely late term abortion
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

When you consider the fact that the sex was in 2005 and 2006, and the payment was in 2016.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Add
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:48 PM
Mar 2018

to "Blackmailable President"..

"Ignorant President"
"Bigoted President"
"Illiterate President"
"Bullying President"
"Intellectually Lazy President"
"Narcissistic President"
"Lazy President"
"Liar President"
"Delusional President"
"Wife Cheating President"
"Most Hated President"

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
43. It was a joke, And I laughed. But it's also serious.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 06:38 PM
Mar 2018

Our President fails on every possible measure of being a credible human being.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
30. Yup. All the talk about the tough guy, too rich to be bought or bribed,
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:50 PM
Mar 2018

"I don't settle" (when he always settles) etc. is damaging to his image, and can make even some of our dimmer citizens understand the security risk. If a little "nobody" can come along and hit him up for $130,000 over an affair a decade ago, what could someone do who holds millions of his debt get him to do? Or, say, a rival head of state?

Looks bad for lil' donnie.

 
5. The Streisand Effect
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

Maybe he thinks it would hurt his 2020 chances? He should be more worried about Mueller and the short term.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. But his sole focus is keeping his base. If he keeps congress and his base
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:51 PM
Mar 2018

he thinks he can survive Mueller and impeachment.

Saw a news clip about how Evangelicals are FINALLY starting to pull away based on his morality issues.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Geez...work from home and have news on all day in background
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:29 PM
Mar 2018

so only catch bits and pieces sometimes. It was probably MSNBC - it was a female commentator - and a woman - think from a newspaper whose paper did a story on Evangelical opinions

will try and find

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
44. Sorry. It was just a rhetorical question
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:47 AM
Mar 2018

Hardcore Evangelical leaders like Franklin Graham, et. al are still are giving him "mulligans" for his past (and current) moral and ethical lapses, so I'm just surprised that his support among them is slipping.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
6. Because the GOP impeached Bill Clinton
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

over perjury about an Oval Office encounter with an Intern?

Seems like if we want to impeach Trump, it has to be over a lie about sex. That seems to be the only violation of the "Rule of Law" that the current party in power really cares about.

Oh, I forgot the sarcasm tag:

brush

(53,785 posts)
8. Just goes to show she must have some really damaging dirt for them to continue trying to stop her...
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

story from getting out.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
9. His base may not care but...
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

This is still a sitting US President paying hush money to a porn star. Any other time time this would be the biggest thing to rock the White House. But here we’re just like, “let’s focus on the real news”

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
10. I think it ties to campaign finance laws.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:42 PM
Mar 2018

And if there were six others who have similar stories to Daniels, & the Con had a secret fund to pay off this type of thing...

That was my take, anyway.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
11. His lies will be exposed via NDA. All the other affairs he has denied
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:44 PM
Mar 2018

in addition, it appears that there are details. A generic "knowing" of an affair, is cleaner and more easily sanitized than the gritty details. Evangelicals will have a more difficult time ignoring and excusing the behavior.

Besides, what if there really was an abortion or a child to consider? You don't think that this sordid affair (right after his wife gave birth to their child) would create some serious cognitive dissonance with some of this loyal supporters? I really do believe that this is all cumulative and at some point, some of his supporters will have reach one bridge too far, that last straw that broke the camels back.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. The consequences of the payment as a campaign contribution are significant
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:46 PM
Mar 2018

The rest of it, I agree with you, is not of any particular consequence. We now have confirmation that the guy who cheated on his first two wives also did so on his third wife.

The other shocker here is that a person who had sex with Trump for a while, and likely was compensated for that in various ways, was willing to take $130k not to talk about it prior to the election, changed her mind when she figured she could make more money, and has filed suit to rescind the contract on various grounds.

The payment per se is interesting. The rest of it is important if you want to know the details of Trump's sexual performance.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
14. "The Brand" must be protected at all costs.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

As if T-R-U-M-P doesn't already spell "shithead" to a majority of people, it's all he really has to sell.

It sure isn't his good looks or personality. Or his business smarts. Or his morality. Or...

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
16. Married women don't really like their husbands or other men porking porn stars while they're
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:48 PM
Mar 2018

At home with a baby

Atman

(31,464 posts)
21. Like Putin, Stormy has dirt on Trump.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:54 PM
Mar 2018

Note that the only two people in the world that Trump won't criticize are Putin and Stormy. He'd trash his own mother if it would score him points, but he won't speak ill of the two people he knows have the shit to bring him down.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
33. It's already extremely clear she had sex with him.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:58 PM
Mar 2018

That part has been covered.

Malania isn't under the assumption they are in a monogamous relationship. Still, it could help in a divorce. I don't think the agreement would stop a judge from questioning Stormy. Therefore that is even a point of insignificance.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. Outside of photo's it wouldn't really hurt.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:55 PM
Mar 2018

Seems a lot of it is already out there.

I just enjoy the karma aspect. A money grubber fighting with a money grubber. It all sounds so pathetic because the parties involved are pathetic.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
34. I think because where the is one payout , there are a lot more
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 02:03 PM
Mar 2018

All right before the election and that is where legal trouble can really kick in. The Russian scandal trump assumes he is immune from because so many are involved, but then payouts to women are all on him

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
35. Maybe they're afraid the Stormy virus will spread, and disrupt all their other NDA's, including
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 02:08 PM
Mar 2018

the one they probably had Katie Johnson sign when she suddenly dropped her lawsuit a few days before the election.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
37. The ring of authenticity plus salacious sex
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 05:54 PM
Mar 2018

...cuts at the VITALS - cuts through the larcenous, treasonous, overflowing KGOP BS an era of wall-to-wall shithole-republican lies, making this a standout story (I may be a skank, but Dirty Donny* is a bigger skank, kinda self-excusing mind riff).

That's my take on it.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

crazylikafox

(2,758 posts)
46. He must be impotent
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:54 AM
Mar 2018

or can only get off from a spanking or being peed on.

He always liked the publicity about his affairs, so he wouldn't care much even if there were tapes if they showed him to be a great lover.

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
48. Really?
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:57 AM
Mar 2018

you know fully well if this were Obama or any other democrat, the repukes would be going nutso. But they want to give trump yet another mulligan. Enough with the fucking hyprocrisy already.

Plus if there were physical threats, then a crime has likely been committed.

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