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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, Um, "Family Cloth" Reusable Toilet Paper Exists Would You Try It?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popsugar.com/moms/What-Family-Cloth-Reusable-Toilet-Paper-44666077/ampWell, I'm not exactly sure how to approach this one, so I'm just gonna go ahead and dive right in. Reusable toilet paper is a thing that exists out there, and needless to say, people are getting pretty darn riled up about it. Here's how it works: instead of regular ol' TP, you use cloth wipes or "family cloths," as some refer to them to wipe your nether region before dropping the used and abused rags in a bucket next to the john, laundering them, then reusing them.
But on second thought, Lysol does exist, and I will admit that using a soft towel to wipe my derriere sounds way more pleasant than that cardboard-like, one-ply TP I resort to buying when my finances are strapped. And speaking of finances, family cloth is touted for its cost-efficient nature, as stocking up on a wad of wipes one time and then reusing them over and over is clearly way easier on the wallet than purchasing a 10-roll pack of toilet paper every few weeks. That sh*t adds up, man.
Now, would I realistically ditch my beloved Angel Soft in favor of reusable butt cloths? Probably not because I live in a tiny New York City apartment, and my bathroom has zero room for a family cloth pail. But alas, there are some pretty strong proponents of the eco-friendly tushy wipes, exhibited by the fact that Etsy is flooded with various iterations, including patterned family cloths galore and some that even come in roll form with nifty snaps to connect each square.
nini
(16,672 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 16, 2018, 03:30 PM - Edit history (1)
It takes a bit of work but I would use it. Hot water laundry and there you go.
I have my own washer and dryer in the house though. If I didn't probably not sad to say
EllieBC
(3,016 posts)you need with cloth diapers. They think you can use cold or warm. If you want your kid to have yeast infections I guess that works...
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)cloth diapers. They are a lot of trouble. They have to be washed in really, really hot water and maybe with a touch of bleach, but sometimes they are necessary. In and of themselves if carefully washed, they do not cause yeast infections.
EllieBC
(3,016 posts)I cloth diapered my first and gave up halfway through with my second and the third has worn disposables because my laundry pile is too much.
But I remember on forums people saying that not washing the diapers in hot water could lead to rashes and yeast.
Eczema is rough. 😞
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)So if I am not in a good mood on DU some days, you will know why. It's really rough.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)It might be nice feeling wise, but I really don't want a pail of cloth covered in bodily fluids in my bathroom.
(I also don't have kids so rarely had to deal with diapers).
Takket
(21,575 posts)HELLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSS TO THE NO!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)KWR65
(1,098 posts)There is more then enough wood in the world to meet all of our demands. Wood degrades, but plastic does not. I have never understood why people are fine with plastic but worried about the renewable resource that comes from trees.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)dameatball
(7,398 posts)(Uncle Elmer, this may not mean you.....maybe)
EllieBC
(3,016 posts)You have to use a full washtub (with not a full washtub of diapers), a cold water prewash, then a HOT water wash, 2 rinses, then a hot dry.
I assume to keep it actually clean and not a bacterial mess you will have to do the same.
Also, no way just because I do not need more disgusting messes to clean.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Easy to grow trees; culls go for pulp.
Cloth diapers are hard on the environment, too. The only friendlier part of them compared to disposables is the lack of plastic. Surely that's correctable.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm honestly not altogether sure it's all THAT more eco-friendly of a route ... washing machines use a lot of water, and a fair bit of power to operate. Then you probably dry 'em in the dryer ... a bunch more power.
Considering people use cloth diapers for baby, this is surely no more disgusting of a concept overall ...
marlakay
(11,471 posts)First child they didnt have disposable ones yet, second first disposable ones had no elastic so were useless.
But I agree with you if i ever did such a thing i would want my own pail, but you can dry in the sun or a dryer rack to save electricity.
I dont think I would unless i had to!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If I got married and had kids, my wife would have gotten put up for homicide, of me. I can barely stand to handle my own poop, there is no freaking way that I would touch my child's poop. Nor would I touch spitup from the child.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)in each stall for the used tp. Pretty terrible, but everyone there is used to it.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)In Peru anyway. I was there last year.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Sometimes you saw shit stained TP in the bathroom trash can, other times he carried it around the house proudly (something about little boys being obsessed with poop).
Not the cleanest habit, but then again that wasn't the worst this kid had done.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...in the wastepaper basket by the toilet, due to low water flow.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)It seems the older I get, the more TP I use. At the rate I use it now, I'd need a 55 gal hamper next to the john.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)And since your "beloved Angel Soft" is a Koch Bros. product, I think I would try it out before I pass judgment.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)I can't imagine doing a laundry load of "family cloth" and then doing bath towels, dish towels, etc.
packman
(16,296 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Sorry, but my first two children were in the cloth diaper era. NOT going back there. I'll give up many things for the environment but not T.P. Also, my very low water use washing machine would NOT work well to clean such laundry. You would have to go through at least two pre-soaks, then use very hot water. Maybe not so environmental after all.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)I'm passing on having a shit pail handing around....besides I already have that covered with the litter boxes.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)People are dumb.
TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)As to cost effective, wouldn't it depend on how expensive they are and the extra laundry costs? Not to mention, given you live in a city appartment, washing them adds more to carry to the laundry. Not to mention, until it is more common, imagine the reaction of guests to your home. (It does remind me that a few high end restaurants have cloth towels vs paper one of hot air.
Liberal In Texas
(13,556 posts)Had to have a diaper service...and the smell before they were picked up....yech!
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)However, there is nothing wrong with washing your privates with a soapy washrag AFTER dry wiping if you don't want to add wet wipes to an already bogged down sewer system.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)NOT for #2, thank you very much.
My husband is a "tree hugger" but I think this is a step too far even for him.
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 16, 2018, 11:41 PM - Edit history (1)
...wipes is to put them in the trash rather than flushing them.
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)Our son was toilet training and using wipes that stated septic safe...yeah that was some BS because we had our septic line back up into our basement thanks to a clog of wet wipes!!
Bettie
(16,110 posts)in our house if our dogs found pails full of rags covered in poo and other such things.
It would not be good. Not at all.
Also, just no.
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)...has me
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)Im sure the male would have a field day with poop covered towels in the bathroom...ugh.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)I have a "dirty dog" too!
Codeine
(25,586 posts)but disgusting and terrifying.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Immediately after reading this I thought of a bidet. I have always loved the idea. Sure, it's kind of weird at first, but it makes a heck of a lot of sense. And in the absence of a bidet (who has them in the US anyway?) I choose the shower for emergency situations.
chowder66
(9,073 posts)to install, this style is thin so no need for extra bumpers to lift the seat to level out. Excellent power. The only thing is that it doesn't have heat but that's okay because I have no way to plug one in that does offer heat .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01INP9O7S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)You got the cheap (attachment) one?
chowder66
(9,073 posts)It's good for ladies and gents. It hasn't really made much of a dent in TP use though. A little less but you want to start with tp, then use it. You can use a 'designated' towel to dry off with. I just use more tp.
I had to get one since my new toilet hates just about every kind of toilet paper. The only thing is that you may have to sit back a bit unless you want the bottom of your shirt soaking wet.
You can put a piece of saran wrap over the toilet, lid up, to test the jets and to see where the stream hits but you can also control the flow with the little handle so start slow and build up.
They make more expensive ones that you can plug in for heat and some of those have dryers which would be really nice to have.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)and have used them... toss up on what is more environmentally friendly (I will always opt for helping the environment)
no different that using diapers and once a routine is established, it is no big deal
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/feb/26/toilet-roll-America
Americans love toilet paper. Given how fond we are of the stuff we spent nearly $9.5 billion on our rolls in 2014, and we tend to use it more than any other country in the world most of us aren't intimately aware of what it takes to produce it.
Toilet paper may disguise itself with softness and fluffiness, but it's still paper, which means it comes from trees. A lot of them.
According to environmental research organization Worldwatch Institute, citing the World Wildlife Foundation, global toilet paper production wipes out about 27,000 trees per day, which comes out to almost 9 million trees per year.
quote:
"The problem......our luxuries have become too necessary and our necessities too luxurious"
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)outdoor toilet. Newspaper instead of toilet paper.
It worked. I have no idea how they cleaned out the outdoor toilet, but they did. If you are used to shoveling cow and hog manure all day, you wear boots, and you change your clothes before entering the house, and you live quite well.
We also used big pans or bowls specifically designated for the purpose in the night.
Indoor toilets are a luxury of modern times.
I have read that the French used to throw their personal trash out the window. Maybe they yelled, "Look out below." I don't know. And I am just repeating a rumor.
I have heard that in some countries, people have a bowl with water and wash themselves after using the toilet facilities. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Anyway, this is an aspect of life that people don't want to discuss, but it is important to everyone as any woman who has raised a baby to adulthood (myself included) knows.
underpants
(182,826 posts)So my stepfather tells me - were very popular for that very reason.
My wife's grandmother didn't have indoor plumbing until the late 70's.
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)That would often babysit me as a kid whenever my grandparents werent able to. Her house was a gorgeous home built in the 1800s with tons of craftsmen touches, but it had no indoor plumbing. She had an outhouse and used chamber pots at night. The outhouse was stocked with Sears and JC Penny catalogs. This was in the mid/late 80s!!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)I have a little construction company and we do a little bit of plumbing for new and remodel bathrooms and kitchens.
I've really come to appreciate the art and science of a well designed and built plumbing system.
One of the plumbers I know refers to plumbers as "turd wranglers"
When you think about millions of people in cities like my Chicago, all visiting the restroom after lunch in all the homes and offices and high rises -- all nice and tidy. No disease.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Had a dramatic impact on disease and virus control. Maybe that plumber should call himself the "Disease Cop" instead of turd wrangler, though I admit, turd wrangler is catchier.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Plumbers: protecting the health and safety of the nation
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)Everyone who lived in a city in Europe did that for centuries. It took a very long time for sewer systems to be installed. We don't know just how lucky we are.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)came from understanding the role that human waste played in outbreaks of cholera in cities.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)For a while, we had an outdoor toilet with the catch in the ground. We did not clean it, but my Mom dumped baking soda in during the summer months.
shanti
(21,675 posts)rollin74
(1,976 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)but it is time intensive. And snaps? Nope!
My DIL is using cloth with grand baby. She uses an RV washing machine just for diapers. Pure genius.
LeftInTX
(25,365 posts)I did cloth diapers for one of my kids. Dunked the diaper in the toilet afterward. I can't imagine a whole family dunking their cloth wipes in a toilet every time they poop. Grown up poop also stinks much worse than baby poop.
That is just smell to hell....
Daphne08
(3,058 posts)Fortunately, Pampers had hit the market by the time my youngest was born.
I never would want to go back to swishing dirty diapers in the commode then throwing them in the diaper pail (which was stinky even with those little deodorizing cakes in the lid).
Also, I always suspected the diaper rash my oldest son suffered from was a result of those cloth diapers - no matter how hot the water was in the washing machine.
Disposable diapers are such a blessing for so many reasons.
So is toilet paper.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)NOPE
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)Hell no.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)washed cloth diapers....
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)I shudder to think of the size cloth he would need to feel clean after a wipe. We'd need a very large bucket - and even then.
*Mild, very mild, exaggeration.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)I should buy stock in TP. I really should.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You dry out the corn cobs, bang them on the fence post to shake off the big stuff, scrape them on the wire, and they are good to go.
rock
(13,218 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)On the list of nastiest nastiness that ever nastied that is right at the motherfucking top.
struggle4progress
(118,291 posts)dchill
(38,502 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)It's not cheap up front, but my issue is TP clogging up my mail line to my septic tank, though these can be used anywhere and is a better solution to TP waste IMO.
BlueSpot
(855 posts)Absolutely love it. Never going back.
Not even going to consider using a product like being discussed here. That's just nasty.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 16, 2018, 09:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Is helpful in my decision making process and timing, thanks.
edit:typo
BlueSpot
(855 posts)I got mine this past fall. I did a fair amount of research including reading and comparing reviews and features. For all that it offers, it has (IMO) the best bang for the buck. It's a bit startling the first few times and you have to fiddle with the controls to get the "aim" right but, once you've got it dialed in, it's great. Wish I'd done it years ago.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and one use convinced me to get my own. So much nicer than a dry tp wipe.
ismnotwasm
(41,988 posts)Im thinking. Feces bugs are hardy.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)=========
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)even though disposables had become common by the time the first one was born.
BreweryYardRat
(6,556 posts)Neither will anyone else who owns ferrets.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)that's what the trash can in these bathrooms is for, not for the dry wipe thing that Americans have going on, which when you think about it is utterly disgusting.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)That's just nasty.
eShirl
(18,494 posts)I don't need eco- e coli.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)with herpes.