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mcar

(42,334 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 07:42 PM Mar 2018

Nancy Pelosi doesn't care if you hate her

Nancy Pelosi welcomes your hatred.

Okay, that may be an exaggeration. But when the Republican Party spends so much of its time talking about her, you'd think she'd be a bit more perturbed. And there's no sign she is.

She has good reason. We just saw yet another election in which Republicans tried everything they could do to tie the Democratic candidate to Pelosi, and he won anyway. Conor Lamb, the victor in that Pennsylvania special election, said at the campaign's outset that he wouldn't be voting for Pelosi for speaker in 2019 if he were elected, since he thought the time had come for a new generation to take control (Pelosi, who's 77, has been in Congress for over 30 years). That might not have made Pelosi feel good, but she's as hard-headed as they come, and if it helped win a seat for Democrats, she wasn't going to complain.

But we don't know whether it actually did help. Perhaps Lamb's stance defused the attack (though it certainly didn't stop Republicans from making it), or perhaps when people are voting for their member of Congress, they don't much care who the party's leader is.

That sounds like a radical thing to say, but the truth is that we have zero evidence that it actually changes any votes when every Republican candidate shouts "My opponent is just a puppet of San Francisco liberal Nancy Pelosi!" There's no question that Republican voters dislike her, but that's very different from her actually having an effect on the outcome of any race. But we've been seeing those ads for so long we just assume they must make a difference....

Last year when she was asked about Republican attacks on her, Pelosi responded, "I think I'm worth the trouble, quite frankly." There was a time when few Democrats would have questioned that assertion. People who understand how Congress works will tell you that Pelosi has been one of the most effective legislative leaders in American history, keeping her caucus together and shepherding legislation with a toughness and skill Paul Ryan can only dream about.

http://theweek.com/articles/761142/nancy-pelosi-doesnt-care-hate

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Nancy Pelosi doesn't care if you hate her (Original Post) mcar Mar 2018 OP
Love her attitude, "I think I'm worth the trouble" George II Mar 2018 #1
Absolutely. A strong woman who knows her own power. Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #2
I love that! mcar Mar 2018 #13
K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #3
There is no reason for Nancy Pelosi to care Gothmog Mar 2018 #4
This should be an easy thing for people to understand mcar Mar 2018 #14
A hard headed woman. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #5
Oh yeah! mcar Mar 2018 #15
I think Nancy couldn't care less that Cha Mar 2018 #6
Yep!! ehrnst Mar 2018 #10
They can't get their spin straight! mcar Mar 2018 #16
Well Demonizing Nancy didn't Cha Mar 2018 #19
did you see Bill Maher's show ? JI7 Mar 2018 #7
I'll check it out mcar Mar 2018 #17
K&R betsuni Mar 2018 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2018 #9
15 years of leadership through good times and bad - but just blamed for the bad, and never given ehrnst Mar 2018 #11
+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #12
That is exactly right mcar Mar 2018 #18

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
4. There is no reason for Nancy Pelosi to care
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 08:35 PM
Mar 2018

The members of the Democratic caucus are the only people who matter in this decision and I doubt that if the Democrats regain control of the House, she will have any serious trouble being elected Speaker

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
5. A hard headed woman.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 08:38 PM
Mar 2018
Hard Headed Woman
Elvis Presley

Well a hard headed woman,
A soft hearted man
Been the cause of trouble
Ever since the world began.
Oh yeah, ever since the world began
A hard headed woman been
A thorn in the side of man.

Now Adam told to Eve,
"Listen here to me,
Don't you let me catch you
Messing round that apple tree."
Oh yeah, ever since the world began
A hard headed woman been
A thorn in the side of man.

Now Samson told Delilah
Loud and clear,
"Keep your cotton picking fingers
Out my curly hair."
Oh yeah, ever since the world began
A hard headed woman been
A thorn in the side of man.

I heard about a king
Who was doing swell
Till he started playing
With that evil Jezebel.
Oh yeah, ever since the world began
A hard headed woman been a thorn in the side of man.

I got a woman,
A head like a rock.
If she ever went away
I'd cry around the clock.
Oh yeah, ever since the world began
A hard headed woman been
A thorn in the side of man.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=a+hard+headed+woman+lyrics&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=48cf35a378b64f58daf37491b1cde876&sp=2&qs=AS&pq=a+hard+headed+woman&sk=AS1&sc=8-19&cvid=48cf35a378b64f58daf37491b1cde876&cc=US&setlang=en-US

Brava to hard headed women being a thorn in a mans side.

Cha

(297,307 posts)
6. I think Nancy couldn't care less that
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 09:00 PM
Mar 2018

Conor Lamb defused the Nancy Pelosi "crisis" that the pubs have spent so much money on for over a decade.




Mahalo, mcar!

mcar

(42,334 posts)
16. They can't get their spin straight!
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 10:21 AM
Mar 2018

Too bad some on the progressive side seem to fall for it.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
7. did you see Bill Maher's show ?
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 06:49 AM
Mar 2018

there is a clip of it under in the videos forum and and the one on "new rules"i think, he talks about Pelosi and Clinton . i liked his idea for the ad which attacked democrats on abortion.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. 15 years of leadership through good times and bad - but just blamed for the bad, and never given
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:28 AM
Mar 2018

credit for the good.

Women everywhere understand this.


Like Hillary, as a powerful woman "of an age," she is a lightning rod for anger and angst for those, especially men, who are searching for scapegoat for their dissatisfaction with the way things are going in general.

She is a badass. Zero fucks to give concerning "being the popular girl," she just continues to get the job done. Not caring about, let alone cowing, to male disapproval is especially enraging to young men, even on the left (and of course the women who derive their identity and power from the men they align with - which usually declines as they..... age).

The nature of the criticism of her says so much.

She has earned the continued respect of her Democratic colleagues who keep electing her to leadership, and that is enough for me.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
18. That is exactly right
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 10:22 AM
Mar 2018

I've seen her blamed for D state house losses! But mention things she's accomplished and it's harrumph.

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