Arizona House Democrats: In Arizona, a person is killed with a gun every 9 hours...

[ffr]

In Arizona, a person is killed with a gun every 9 hours. House Democrats will tweet facts about gun violence prevention #Every9Hours until Saturday’s #MarchForOurLives at the Capitol. #Enough

Link to tweet

[msongs]

1. 973 people a year killed by guns and their owners nt

[JI7]

2. What if we build a wall and kick out dreamers ?

[aikoaiko]

3. Hmm. 2015 data says only 171 people murdered with a firearm in AZ. About 1 every 48 hours

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-20

[ffr]

4. CDC Stats of the State of Arizona, Firearm deaths per day 2.65: 970/yr (2015)

hrs in a day/deaths per day= hours per 1 death
24/2.65=9.05

Deaths per hour 0.110417 * 9.05 hours= 1 death.

Arizona Mortality Data......Deaths
Firearm Deaths....................970
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/arizona/arizona.htm

[aikoaiko]

5. I suppose suicides and accidents could make up the difference

but that's a lot of suicides and accidents.

[ffr]

8. May it's high time you called the CDC and said something to them about their stats then.

Go for it.

[Straw Man]

6. Right.

"Firearms deaths" in the aggregate, which would include suicides and justified killings, such as in self-defense.

[ffr]

7. Correct, that would fulfill the definition of being killed by a gun.

Glad you agree.

[Straw Man]

9. It depends.

I would make a distinction between "He was killed by a gun" and "He killed himself with a gun." Would you agree?

[ffr]

10. What I would have to say would be irrelevant to the definition of handgun deaths.

So I'd agree with the definition and leave it at that.

[LanternWaste]

11. An ER surgeon wouldn't

"I would make a distinction between..."

An ER surgeon wouldn't. They're all GSWs regardless of origin.

But I get where you're coming from... the gross denominator doesn't assist particular narratives very well, and distinctions irrelevant to the original statement need to made.

[Straw Man]

12. Relevance.

The distinction is only irrelevant if the contention is that reducing the number of firearms will reduce the number of suicides as well as homicides. If not, the gross denominator is the irrelevant factor.