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MOSCOW The expulsion of scores of Russian diplomats from the United States, countries across Europe and beyond has raised, yet again, the question of whether the world is veering back where it was during the Cold War. The alarming answer from some in Russia is: No, but the situation is in some ways even more unpredictable.
For all the tension, proxy conflicts and risk of nuclear war that punctuated relations between Moscow and the West for decades, each side knew, particularly toward the end of the Cold War and collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, roughly what to expect. Each had a modicum of trust that the other would act in a reasonably predictable way.
The volatile state of Russias relations with the outside world today, exacerbated by a nerve agent attack on a former spy living in Britain, however, makes the diplomatic climate of the Cold War look reassuring, said Ivan I. Kurilla, an expert on Russian-American relations, and recalls a period of paralyzing mistrust that followed the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution.
If you look for similarities with what is happening, it is not the Cold War that can explain events but Russias first revolutionary regime, which regularly assassinated opponents abroad, said Mr. Kurilla, a historian at the European University at St. Petersburg.
He said that Russias president, Vladimir V. Putin, had no interest in spreading a new ideology and fomenting world revolution, unlike the early Bolsheviks, but that Russia under Mr. Putin had become a revolutionary regime in terms of international relations.
From the Kremlins perspective, it is the United States that first upended previous norms, when President George W. Bush scrapped the Antiballistic Missile accord, an important Cold War-era treaty, in 2002.
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BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)That is where we are currently...Putin is scary!
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)a Russian Senator said that this is an old problem going back 200 years. Blaming Russia for everything. Well maybe.... The Czar's Okrana took on the British in Central Asia in the Great Game, the Bolsheviks tried to export their revolution and now this.
Russia has a history of autocratic rule which seems to remain the same, regardless of economic philosophy, so why would the expansionist nature change?
Hekate
(90,708 posts)I find this bit of analysis very interesting.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)Until the Russians put Their Man in the White House in 2017, this was the most successful intelligence operation ever. Luckily, Stalin screwed it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust
moondust
(19,988 posts)History has seen lots of people come to power and foolishly overplay their hands. Hitler foolishly invaded the Soviet Union. GWB and Cheney foolishly invaded Iraq. Putin may have held unchallenged power for so long that it has gone to his head; he may believe he's invincible or something, can get away with anything (like Drumpf & Co.). Maybe these big diplomatic expulsions will offer him a chance to reevaluate his place in the world before continuing to overplay.
OnDoutside
(19,960 posts)Sovereign state, backed brutal dictators everywhere, inflicting misery on millions.
DFW
(54,399 posts)Even Germany, with its complete re-make after World War II retains vestiges of its old character, albeit nowhere near to the point where its neighbors need fear them.
Russia has for centuries coveted the nations on its border. They owned part of Poland for centuries. After Metternich "gave" them Finland, the country wasn't given back to the Finns until after the revolution. They owned the small Baltic states for decades, and they still consider the old Soviet Empire to be (at the very least) their sphere of influence, especially the vast areas of Russian-speaking territory to its west, such as White Russia (Byelarus) and the Ukraine.
Putin may not be interested in "making the world safe for socialism" any more, and he may restrict his military from active aggression beyond Ukraine and Syria, but if he can expand his empire and influence with nothing more than a building full of computer geeks and strategists, what incentive would he have to hold back? For that matter, if he were to order his military to retake Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, it could be accomplished in a couple of hours, and then NATO would be presented with one extremely uncomfortable "Whaddya gonna do about it?" Obviously the answer is NOT "start a nuclear war over it," but then the question arises for us and NATO as to just where we draw the line, and what DO we do about it? Send them a strongly-worded letter?