The Guardian: Zuckerberg's refusal to testify absolutely astonishing.

[triron]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-declines-to-appear-before-uk-fake-news-inquiry-mps

"Speaking after questioning the Cambridge Analytica whistleblower, Christopher Wylie, for almost three hours, the committee chair, Damian Collins, said: “I think, given the extraordinary evidence we’ve heard so far today, it is absolutely astonishing that Mark Zuckerberg is not prepared to submit himself to questioning in front of a parliamentary or congressional hearing, given these are questions of fundamental importance and concern to his users, as well as to this inquiry as well."

[poboy2]

1. He believes he is above the law. Unaccountable. He MUST pay. -nt

[happy feet]

18. +1

[PatSeg]

23. He knows he is guilty as sin

[DBoon]

51. Typical Silicon Valley libertarian

Absorbing the ideology of Ayn Rand

[still_one]

52. Silicon Valley votes consistently Democratic. Zuckerberg does not represent the populous here, nor

do most CEOs represent his mindset

[Anon-C]

2. It is not astonishing- AT ALL! Nt

[Johonny]

3. Wouldn't a good CEO welcome the opportunity?

I don't see this move as good for facebook stock or the company. He can't play the CEO game at all.

[elleng]

5. I agree.

[Doodley]

4. Fake news. He hasn't refused to testify.

[blake2012]

11. His lack of response to British Parliaments request he testify can be

Construed as refusal. People who shout “fake news without offering up evidence of fake news aren’t Really credible.

[Doodley]

14. There's no evidence he refused to testify to congress. None. Not in the OP Guardian article. Nowhere

So, yes, it is fake news.

[blake2012]

15. You are wrong again. Google is your friend

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2018/03/27/zuckerberg-refuses-uk-parliament-summons-over-fb-data-misuse/amp/

It is being reported widely in a variety of reputable sources.

Got any other stories?

[Doodley]

26. I repeat, he has never refused to testify to congress.

[blake2012]

29. His silence re: their official summons is refusal.

Don’t be obtuse on this

[Doodley]

32. I heard him in a CNN interview last week. He said it was important that the best and most

senior person be there to answer the question. Which isn't unreasonable. He isn't going to be an expert. Yes, he's the head of Facebook, but not an expert in all matters. When pressed, he said he said to the effect that he would be willing to personally testify.

[blake2012]

33. That excuse does with Ken Lay

[LanternWaste]

42. It's creative to move goalposts from London to DC.

It's creative to move goalposts from London to DC.

[Doodley]

43. The article says he refused to testify to congress.

[tazkcmo]

56. Maybe this will help

United States Congress has a capital C like this while the word congressional has a lower case c. In addition, you are taking the quote of a British MP and construing it into the article body as if the reporter said that not the British MP.

The term fake news is associated with trumpsters and while being on this website you may want to use caution when adopting right wing memes.

[whopis01]

17. How does Congress come into this discussion at all?

It is an article in a British newspaper about Zuckerberg not testifying in front of Parliament.

He has been asked to testify on three separate occasions, and has declined to do so each time.

Calling something that is obviously true "Fake News" is very Trump-like. What purpose does it serve to you?

[TheBlackAdder]

20. Yes. My friend Austin wants to know. . .

.



.

[Doodley]

28. The article says he refused to testify to congress. Show me any evidence of that.

[blake2012]

34. If you get a summons to appear in court and just ignore it

The court will take that as refusal to appear and arrest your ass

[cungar2000]

36. Exclusive: Mark Zuckerberg has decided to testify before Congress

After repeated calls for him to do so, Mark Zuckerberg has decided he will testify before Congress.

Facebook sources tell CNNMoney the 33-year-old CEO has come to terms with the fact that he will have to testify before Congress within a matter of weeks, and Facebook is currently planning the strategy for his testimony.

The pressure from lawmakers, the media and the public has become too intense to justify anything less.

The Facebook sources believe Zuckerberg's willingness to testify will also put pressure on Google CEO Sundar Pichai and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to do the same. Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has officially invited all three CEOs to a hearing on data privacy on April 10.

[LiberalLovinLug]

40. US Congress is not the UK Parlaiment

[mr_lebowski]

39. Believe UK gov't has 'congressional hearings' so if you're thinking they mean US I think you are

... mistaken in your understanding.

[suffragette]

41. Actually, the article notes that he might testify before Congress.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-declines-to-appear-before-uk-fake-news-inquiry-mps

MPs are likely to take a still dimmer view of his decision if he decides to testify before Congress in the US. It was reported on Tuesday that he may do so, with CNN suggesting that he has bowed to public pressure and that the company is now considering strategy for his testimony.

There is a quote from an MP that says he wouldn’t testify “ in front of a parliamentary or congressional hearing.”

The MP said: “I think, given the extraordinary evidence we’ve heard so far today, it is absolutely astonishing that Mark Zuckerberg is not prepared to submit himself to questioning in front of a parliamentary or congressional hearing, given these are questions of fundamental importance and concern to his users, as well as to this inquiry.

That quote is from an individual, not a stance taken by the article.

You seem very quick to accuse The Guardian of “fake news.” Why is that, I wonder?

[Doodley]

44. You are right, but they put that at the top of the article and never correct it.

[suffragette]

48. There is nothing to correct. The MP was likely quoted before news that Zuckerberg decided to testify

before Congress.

The 1st paragraph is focused on the UK. The “astonishing” still applies to UK.

And the article includes the info that Zuckerberg is now saying he might testify before Congress.

[whopis01]

54. It does not say that he refused to testify to Congress.

It even brings up the possibility of him deciding to testify in front of Congress:

"MPs are likely to take a still dimmer view of his decision if he decides to testify before Congress in the US."


You claim that the article states that he refused to testify in front of Congress.

Show me any evidence that the article makes that claim.

[magicarpet]

46. "Fake News" the term has been normalized....

by our great leader the orange coated Shit-gibbon.

Anything uttered by anyone other than the Ministry of Propaganda (Fux Nooz) is immediately construed as invalid nasty partisan political smut and rank inaccuracies.


TRdump's desire is to dismantle the fourth estate and eliminate another route to achieving any meaningful checks and balances over the executive branch. So much for the protections enshrined in the US Constitution for freedom of the press to conduct honest investigative reporting of government. TRdump once again refuses to honor any oath or allegiance to the First Amendment of the Constitution. He says fuck all of that - it is too inconvenient and cumbersome for him to take the matter seriously.

[eShirl]

13. He blew them off.

Close enough.

[sfwriter]

49. Maybe you forgot this...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?436362-1/facebook-google-twitter-executives-testify-russias-influence-2016-election

"I'm disappointed that you're here and not your CEOs," Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine, said at a hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday. "We would appreciate seeing the top people who are actually making the decisions."

and

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/technology/business/tech-ceo-hearings/index.html

Zuckerberg sent lawyers and failed to reveal what he already knew at that time...

Has he ducked a subpoena to testify, no, but he did dodge a request.

[Corvo Bianco]

6. Zuck and Shkreli sitting in a tree

F-ing over the whole country
First comes cash,
Then moral decay,
Then comes a bailiff to lock them away!

These guys strike me as peas in a pod ATM.

[poboy2]

7. nice-nt

[FarCenter]

8. If I were Zuckerberg, I wouldn't travel internationally.

[blake2012]

9. Compel him to testify. Kick his raggedy ass out of Britain

If he refuses. Meaning, make it illegal for Facebook to operate there if he’s uncooperative.

Fuck Mark Zuckerberg. He’s been a giant dick since before Facebook.

[jberryhill]

10. It's in the user agreement that he doesn't have to

They all agreed to that.

[blake2012]

16. British Paiament didnt sign it. He better show

Or Facebook will face many more hurdles.

[erronis]

25. But, I wonder if 73.627% of all Brits have fb accounts

Doesn't that make parliament somewhat irrelevant? Maybe the fine print says that they will support fb against any dominion claims. Requires a new referendum and all that rot. Fold it into the brexit fiasco.

Seriously, with the trump-tripe we have here in the us, you brits have it easy!

[blake2012]

27. How does % of Facebook uptake affect Parliaments relevance to oversight

[erronis]

35. 'twas somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but in the US "representative" government

We find the "will of the people" to be strongly influenced by the "power of the money".

I know that the UK system is far less influenced by popular opinion than we are with groups such as the NRA.

I guess I was putting fb in the same category as nra (with some reason.)

[jberryhill]

55. Sure they did

It quite clearly states that by agreeing to live on the same planet as Zuckerberg, you are deemed to have agreed to the Terms of Service.

[Generic Brad]

12. He's suffering from acute affluenza

His printed one page apology in a newspaper does not get him off the hook. He knows he broke laws and acted unethically. Billionaires should not be able to buy a free pass solely because they are billionaires. To accumulate that much in lifetime, you either have to be incredibly lucky or extremely lawless.

[Me.]

19. He Is More Coward Than Leader

Can take the billions but not the heat

[NastyRiffraff]

21. People like Zuckerberg

don't actually believe they're above the law, but they really, honestly, fervently believe normal rules don't apply to them. Zuck obviously thought that taking out full page ads in a printed "apology tour" was enough and he should have to do no more. He paid for them, after all! With real money! What more can we ask of him?! (Plenty, Zuck. Plenty.)

[procon]

22. His own hubris will lead to the fall of Zuckerberg.

Whether its from sheer arrogance, the infallibility of his youthful intellect, his wealth and power, Zuckerberg cannot stand against the will of state to compel his presence. He can try to resist a parliamentary summons, or dodge a Congressional hearing, but he will not be allowed to thumb his nose at those lawmakers when they have a huge legal arsonal to force him to comply.

[PatSeg]

24. Well it appears he has said he will testify before congress

After repeated calls for him to do so, Mark Zuckerberg has decided he will testify before Congress.
Facebook sources tell CNNMoney the 33-year-old CEO has come to terms with the fact that he will have to testify before Congress within a matter of weeks, and Facebook is currently planning the strategy for his testimony.

The pressure from lawmakers, the media and the public has become too intense to justify anything less.

The Facebook sources believe Zuckerberg's willingness to testify will also put pressure on Google CEO Sundar Pichai and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to do the same. Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has officially invited all three CEOs to a hearing on data privacy on April 10.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/27/technology/mark-zuckerberg-testify-congress-facebook/index.html

[poboy2]

30. My guess is he is confinent he can buy off politicians here is why. Favorable venue

for the privileged.

GET YOUR ASS TO England, Fauntleroy.

[PatSeg]

37. Fauntleroy!!!

Perfect............

[erronis]

31. Since this is such a sensitive subject, I'll assume it will be done in a closed session....

The general populace should not be allowed to hear how they are being screwed,
first by the companies,
and then by their government.

[PatSeg]

38. Oh absolutely

Must keep the masses subdued and placated, especially now that so many of them are armed and dangerous.

[nolabels]

45. Feels like a tag team operation

We will find out anyway, the stories that linger digital information age mostly always live on.

The one I am still waiting to find out about is two airline planes were able to take down two skyscrapers hundreds of times their weight and size in the span of a couple hours and melting steel structures with fuel that is basically diesel fuel.

[poboy2]

50. NORAD stand down. -nt

[UCmeNdc]

47. He knows where the bodies lie. He does not want to be on the record saying he does not know anything

Mark Zuckerberg is acting mighty suspicious.

[moondust]

53. Too hard to buy MPs

and get the toady treatment?

(No prob with U.S. Congress.)