The Census citizenship question

[bluecollar2]

Is the latest culture war question designed to get rabid republicans motivated to back their party.

We've seen this Bullshit before...

Gay marriage and transgender bathrooms come to mind.

Democrats need to counter with careful messaging in order not to lose this issue also.

[Pholus]

1. If asked, I will consider finding a "hanging chad" way to screw it up.

[blake2012]

2. How about--put it on the long form questionnaire but leave it off the widely distributed shorter

form as has been the case since 1950

[FBaggins]

3. There is no "long form" any longer

The Obama administration replaced it with a much smaller (but more frequently run) statistical sampling.

[blake2012]

4. ah. I'm not up on all of the intricacies of how census data is conducted at the ten year vs. cont

continual intervals. Then have it on the more frequent sampling. I don't mind the question being asked to statistically extrapolate, but it shouldn't be on the main form that goes out to so many.

[Puzzledtraveller]

5. It's a question on all SNAP and Medicaid applications

Does that mean it should be on the census, I don't know, but it's data that is being collected in other ways. It does have specific purposes in regard to SNAP and Medicaid eligibility but I don't think the question will be that alarming for some people already familiar with this intrusion. I would just choose not to answer it, if it were a census question. I don't fill those out anyway so.

[Bucky]

6. No, it should not be on it. It's politicizing the Census

The question is there specifically intending to suppress response rates in Latino communities. This is an attempt to take Congressional votes away from California, urban Colorado, and southern Texas.

[Puzzledtraveller]

7. No doubt

because unlike the SNAP and Medicaid applications I do, citizenship is irrelevant to the census. But I won't be surprised to see federal programs thrown out as examples why the republicans think it's no big deal, in case they have not brought up these programs already.

[Bucky]

9. Another thing to consider

Many federally funded programs, not just in Block Grants, are often based on census data. So this would also have the effect of underfunding a number of social service programs in Latino communities

As usual, when the Republicans play politics, innocent Working Class People end up getting hurt.

[mr_lebowski]

12. Knowing the GOP they'll try to pass a law that non-citizens don't 'count' for

all kinds of stuff like representation. They'll become 0/0's of a 'person' in certain calculations (when convenient for the GOP of course). They'll do this of course AFTER teh census is taken and people already answered.

Another reason we need to make sure they're OUT in 2018 from Congress, and OUT from Executive in 2020.

[Hekate]

8. It affects our Congressional delegate numbers, federal money for roads, & a host of other things...

Perhaps soon some bright GOPer will propose a compromise -- say, counting non-citizens as 3/5 of a person?

[mr_lebowski]

13. Lol ... exactly what I was thinking, just posted it above b4 I saw yours

Perhaps 0/0's of a person in fact ...

[brewens]

10. I guess I do not understand how under-counting illegal aliens helps the republicans? n/t

[mr_lebowski]

14. Others have discussed it above ...

Also there's numerous other 'legally here but not actually citizens' statuses people can have as well. So this is NOT just 'counting illegals'.

[bluecollar2]

15. The Census needs to count all individuals.

Without an accurate count one can't realistically allocate federal funds to a population.

For example...

If Texas has a real population of 25 Million, they should receive an allotment of funds for that population.

If only 20 Million are counted, and funds are not distributed for the 5 Million not counted, the burden is increased on the 20.

[dumbcat]

16. It doesnt hurt republicans

It hurts Democrats They are people we represent. And this is a representative democracy

[IluvPitties]

11. Nativism at work.