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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 02:59 PM Apr 2018

Mueller Finally Unmasked the Trump Campaigns Secret Russian Operative

Mueller Finally Unmasked the Trump Campaign’s Secret Russian Operative

By John R. Schindler • 04/02/18 2:39pm

Since its establishment a hundred years ago, at the dawn of Bolshevik rule, the Main Intelligence Directorate of Moscow’s General Staff—GRU for short—has been the shadowiest of the Kremlin’s spy agencies. While the KGB was known worldwide, its military counterpart remained off-limits to outsiders, shrouded in speculation and mystery. We in the West still know very little about GRU’s Cold War secret operations, unlike the KGB’s, much less what its spies hiding behind their black bat logo are up to these days.

Left untouched by the Soviet collapse in 1991 (there wasn’t even a name change), GRU remains a top-secret espionage empire that spans the globe, with human and technical intelligence capabilities stretching far beyond Russia. A purely foreign intelligence agency, GRU dwarfs its civilian rival, the SVR, in size and capabilities. Like the SVR, it employs spies abroad who masquerade as diplomats, as well as operatives working without official cover, what Moscow terms Illegals.

Recent developments demonstrate that GRU played a clandestine role in the election of Donald Trump. Last week, Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s team, which is investigating the White House’s Kremlin connections, released a court filing relating to the imminent sentencing of Alex van der Zwaan, a London attorney who has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Trump deputy campaign chair Rick Gates and a shadowy figure termed “Person A.” Per the court filing:

That Gates and Person A were directly communicating in September and October 2016 was pertinent to the investigation. Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agents assisting the Special Counsel’s Office assess that Person A has ties to Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016. During his first interview with the Special Counsel’s Office, van der Zwaan admitted that he knew of that connection, stating that Gates told him Person A was a former Russian Intelligence Officer with GRU.

To anyone acquainted with the Trump investigation, Person A is obviously Konstantin Kilimnik, a close friend and protégé of Paul Manafort (Trump’s campaign manager in mid-2016), who has admitted he was once a Russian intelligence officer working for GRU. Our media went into overdrive, hailing this as the “most direct line to date” between President Trump’s inner circle and the Kremlin. One must ask: Where have they been?

More: http://observer.com/2018/04/russia-gru-agent-in-mueller-probe-is-konstantin-kilimnik/
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Mueller Finally Unmasked the Trump Campaigns Secret Russian Operative (Original Post) MelissaB Apr 2018 OP
When Mueller cooks your goose.... magicarpet Apr 2018 #1
Damn You now I wanna rewatch Wrath of Khan... Volaris Apr 2018 #12
K&R BlueJac Apr 2018 #2
The Observer? oberliner Apr 2018 #3
Sorry. Not a good try there. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #9
Pretty sure this is Kushner's paper oberliner Apr 2018 #15
It isn't anymore. John Schindler is a conservative firmly in the Never Trump camp, pnwmom Apr 2018 #19
I haven't seen a single think he's written about Trump Russia that isn't spot on. MelissaB Apr 2018 #23
That has always been an interesting contradiction. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #34
His hand picked successor runs the Observer now NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #14
Gotcha oberliner Apr 2018 #16
I'm not aware of anything Schindler got wrong with Trump Russia. MelissaB Apr 2018 #22
1. He's a right wing conservative 2. Do you know why he isn't a War College professor anymore? oberliner Apr 2018 #25
1. Yes, and a "never Trumper". 2. Yup. MelissaB Apr 2018 #27
I appreciate your response oberliner Apr 2018 #33
You ask this in just about every John Schindler article I post. MelissaB Apr 2018 #20
I don't understand how anyone can post anything by John Schindler here oberliner Apr 2018 #26
If the source says things people want to believe, many will automatically consider it credible, hughee99 Apr 2018 #35
No longer, thank goodness. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #21
Need to keep this at the top for visibility UpInArms Apr 2018 #4
Kick dalton99a Apr 2018 #5
K&R denbot Apr 2018 #6
K and R pazzyanne Apr 2018 #7
KnR for Robert Mueller I.D.ing Konstantin Kilimnik Hekate Apr 2018 #8
K&R UCmeNdc Apr 2018 #10
r'd poboy2 Apr 2018 #11
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #13
K&R backtoblue Apr 2018 #17
k & r Achilleaze Apr 2018 #18
It will be a sad, sad day when we are not invited into the hearings BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #24
From the last paragraph: Control-Z Apr 2018 #28
Boy, you said a mouthful there. flying_wahini Apr 2018 #29
ONE (1) of them. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #30
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #31
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #32
So, it's worse than we thought (n/t) PJMcK Apr 2018 #36

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
1. When Mueller cooks your goose....
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 03:16 PM
Apr 2018

.... would you like the stuffing cooked on the side or along with and stuffed in the goose and then all together cooked in the oven ?

Would you like a nice home made goose gravy along with all that ?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Pretty sure this is Kushner's paper
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:35 PM
Apr 2018
How Jared Kushner’s Newspaper Became a Favorite Outlet for WikiLeaks Election Hacks

The New York Observer, owned by Trump’s son-in-law, was a friendly outlet for the 2016 Russian hackers.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/17/how-jared-kushners-newspaper-became-a-favorite-outlet-for-wikileaks-election-hacks/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. It isn't anymore. John Schindler is a conservative firmly in the Never Trump camp,
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:51 PM
Apr 2018

and everything in this piece seems well documented.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
23. I haven't seen a single think he's written about Trump Russia that isn't spot on.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:01 PM
Apr 2018

It seems we have to go through this same song and dance with every article Schindler writes.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
34. That has always been an interesting contradiction.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:21 AM
Apr 2018

Schindler is an interesting writer, and a staunch pro intelligence person. I have seen him on television appearances as a talk show guest. I think his writing is far more interesting than his speaking.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. His hand picked successor runs the Observer now
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:16 PM
Apr 2018

so, I'd take Schindler with a grain of salt.

That said, there were multiple stories last week about the GRU officer that was communicating with Team Trump.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
22. I'm not aware of anything Schindler got wrong with Trump Russia.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:59 PM
Apr 2018

Did I miss something? If I did, I'd like to know.

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He's published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
27. 1. Yes, and a "never Trumper". 2. Yup.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:15 PM
Apr 2018

I have friends and family who are conservatives as well. I don't only read liberal and far left sources.

I'm a Democrat and vote that way, but will listen to other perspectives.

Edited to say: Did I miss what he got wrong on Trump/Russia?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. I appreciate your response
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 05:45 AM
Apr 2018

All I am saying is that I am dubious of the source - I have no evidence to support that any of the information provided is right or wrong.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
20. You ask this in just about every John Schindler article I post.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:56 PM
Apr 2018

Yes, he writes for the Observer. Does any of it make Trump or Kushner look good? No.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
35. If the source says things people want to believe, many will automatically consider it credible,
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:51 AM
Apr 2018

at least until absolutely proven not to be (and for a few, even after that). Just ask Claude Taylor and Louise Mensch.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
21. No longer, thank goodness.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:57 PM
Apr 2018

(snip from Wikipedia)

Observer Media is an American online media company. The company was formed through several acquisitions, including acquisition of the New York Observer in 2007. Observer Media is based in lower Manhattan, New York City, and had been owned by businessman Jared Kushner, until Joseph Meyer was named owner and publisher in January 2017. It currently publishes the Commercial Observer, observer.com, and Commercialobserver.com. As of November 2016, Observer Media announced it would no longer print the New York Observer. The observer.com site is a consolidation of several notable online properties, including The Gallerist, BetaBeat, NY Politicker, and PolitickerNJ

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BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
24. It will be a sad, sad day when we are not invited into the hearings
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:07 PM
Apr 2018

to witness the full breadth and depth of the Republican corruption, stolen election, and selling out of America to the Russians

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
28. From the last paragraph:
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:19 PM
Apr 2018
To anyone acquainted with real-world espionage, particularly when it involves Russians, Team Trump’s numerous secret connections to GRU in 2016 and beyond cannot be brushed off as mere coincidence.

flying_wahini

(6,606 posts)
29. Boy, you said a mouthful there.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 05:39 PM
Apr 2018

It breaks my heart for my kids generation, and what they will drag us down to.
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