Dammit! Why isn't anyone hammering Trump for singlehandedly destroying DACA all...

[TreasonousBastard]

by his tiny orange handed self?

There was no reason on God's green earth for him to cancel the program except that it was Obama's, so must be terrible. He cancelled it and then blames everyone else, especially Democrats, for not bringing it back.

He is a bullshitter. Not a liar, a bullshitter.

Lying has a purpose-- you might want to steal something, or hide bad news from someone, or get a confession, or not confess, or not hurt someone's feelings... You expect to get something from the lie, and that something could be a good thing or a bad thing, but there will be a something.

Trump has no point at all in his lying. He gets nothing but some sad ego boost, if even that. No one benefits, no one even gets hurt when everyone realizes his word cannot be trusted.

It's bullshit-- just talking for the sake of talking.

[awesomerwb1]

1. Well, as you well know the people

who represent us hardly ever hammer anyone. Very frustrating.

[poboy2]

9. TRUTH...Don't say it too loudly, but this will be our doom. -nt

[thucythucy]

2. My thoughts exactly.

This whole crisis is the result of his tiny hands ending DACA. We wouldn't be in this place, and those covered under DACA wouldn't be facing this threat, if Benedict Donald hadn't decided out of spite toward President Obama and malice toward brown skinned people to end the program and thus precipitate this crisis.

[politicaljunkie41910]

3. That's why I have no empathy for Melania AT ALL. One minute she's playing games and swatting his

hand away and the next she's letting him hold hers and looking at him adoringly. She of all people, who lied and schemed her way through our corrupted citizenship process should be leading the parade to help these kids.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Because the so called Media has not

talked about the real story. Today MSNBC touched it a bit,Trump Screwed things up during the Legislation write up.

[Hoyt]

5. What good is that going to do? People who don't know that at this point, don't care or if they do

they only care because they want good people deported, harassed, intimidated, etc.

[librechik]

6. Why isn;t EVERYBODY hammering??!!

[still_one]

7. It has been brought up, and in fact just yesterday trump was asked about DACA he went on his

LIES about how the Democrats are responsible for DACA elimination, and when it was pointed out to him that he was the one who cancelled DACA, he completely ignored them.

[thbobby]

8. trump's strategy

Is to bury and hide lies by lies. He lies so much, it is challenging to confront him on lies that are important. Will he succeed in hiding his crimes in an avalanche of lies? The answer will say a lot about America's integrity (or lack of integrity).

[gratuitous]

10. I mentioned that on another thread

There's just no reason for the popular media to paper over Trump's role in creating this mess. DACA, while not a permanent solution, was working just fine, because it was put together by a President with a brain and a heart. Trump trashed it like a toddler knocking over a tower of blocks because he had some pandering to do for his bigot base.

The media can report on what Trump is tweeting (if they must), but they're not required to treat it like he's telling the truth or anything.

[antifash]

12. I blame the D's for not pushing to make it a law instead of a policy, personally

WHY wasn't it codified instead of just a policy? This whole thing makes me furious, the way we arbitrarily set an age range and a cutoff date and basically made a sweepstakes out of it. And what about people who WOULD'VE been eligible for DACA but were too scared to come to the US because of our xenophobic laws? Why aren't they extended DACA protection?

[gratuitous]

13. Obama had to do it as an executive order in 2012

Because Congress, controlled by Republicans, refused to do anything about immigrants and refugees. The Dream Act, which they refused to even consider or bring to a vote, provided a path to citizenship that is anathema to the bigots who comprise the base of today's Republican party. DACA applies to undocumented immigrants who have been here continuously since June 15, 2007 (not new arrivals), contrary to what Lord Littlehands would like the public to think. The "arbitrary" age and residency requirements were meant to soften some of the opposition.

When your party isn't in the majority of either chamber of Congress, it's tough to "push" to make anything a law. But your blame is duly noted.

[antifash]

15. I'm just tired of white people thinking that America is just for them, that's all

If we were able (I'm only 19, so I can't really say "we" since I was in grade school when it happened) to pass Obamacare over the protestations of the republicans then why can't we figure out a way to make it a law that if someone wants to come the America they can? America is basically a country that impacts other countries in such significant ways that it's only fair that other countries' citizens have some rights when it comes to coming here. Literally I (and mostly everyone I know) feel that if you can get here you should be let in, and if you can't get here we should send someone to go get you. The sooner we bring in a more diverse citizenry the sooner people won't have to deal with a government that is literally assaulting the bodies of POC on a daily basis, so I don't feel like waiting another few terms to make a few yards of progress...POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

[Amishman]

16. How would we cope with tens of millions of people flooding into the country?

I am sympathetic towards the dreamers as they came here as children, and I really think we need a revised immigration system - but I don't think we can cope with complete open borders policy.

Automation is going to cause a huge spike in unemployment in the next 10 years. We will need to vastly expand our safety net (and probably enact UBI) to keep people from starving in the streets. This will strain or economy and financial resources to the limit. The change coming to the labor market will be profound. That is with the people already here, I can't imagine how we could manage adding tens of millions of new arrivals to the mix.

Perhaps a flexible immigration system based on how many new arrivals we can support each year, with an option to let anyone in as long as they have a person or organization willing to sponsor them and support their basic needs (like Canada's immigration system requires today)

[antifash]

19. Immigrants aren't the problem nor are they an aggravating factor...

...they are the solution!

Immigrants are already a boost to the economy and make us stronger and more diverse. There's no lack of space in the US for immigrants, and recent history suggests that immigrants tend to vote for progressive candidates. The fact that they could help us take back both houses of Congress and the White House is justification enough, but on top of that there are studies that show that immigrants ADD to our economy, and with an aging population, a lower birth rate for native born Americans and a smaller work force we NEED these people. Nancy Pelosi was right when she said that they're our best hope.

On a side note, generally speaking when someone talks about a 'flood' it carries a negative connotation, such as the floods associated with a natural disaster or the ocean flooding the compartments of a ship at sea. Please consider this when you talk (or write) about immigrants "flooding into the country". Why couldn't we just say immigrants immigrating into our country?

[Hortensis]

17. How about first admitting that "Ds" are the DACA party?

Since Gratuitous was kind enough to explain DACA to you?

We are, in fact, the party the vast majority of politically involved POC align with for hugely obvious reasons. And whites in our party do NOT think everything's about white people. You're talking about those who shelter anxiously in the Republican White Man's Party.

[antifash]

20. I wish that something permanent was done is all I'm saying

This week my uncle told me all about the '94 Assault rifle ban and how it ended after 10 years, and now we have this DACA program that ended as soon as someone who didn't like it was president...it's like we can't get a first down and move the chains. Obviously the D's are the party that looks out for the POC, and that's why the POC are more likely to register D, which is why it would sure be a great idea to get in as many POC refugees as possible before 2020, by DACA, refugee caravan or whatever means necessary. I give President Obama credit for trying, but there's currently a little orange handed tyrant undoing what he did, and that doesn't feel like much of a win. WHEN we get back in power this kind of stuff has to be done in a permanent way that the R's will NEVER be able to undo. That's all I meant.

[herding cats]

21. Refugees need to be permanent residents for 5 years before they can begin the process of citizenship

I realize Republicans spread the lie they're coming here in droves and instantly getting their right to vote and voting for Democrats. That's simply not true. There's a process and it takes a considerable amount of time.

[antifash]

23. Okay...

I live in AZ, Pinal County specifically. I went to the Pinal County courthouse in Florence, filled out a form, folded up said form and put it in a brown wooden box in the lobby, and I received my voter registration card a week or two later. There may or may not have been some kind of question on the form asking me something about citizenship, I can't be sure, but the brown wooden box that I put the form into didn't seem really interested in asking me questions, so I guess it didn't matter THAT MUCH...get what I'm saying?

I'm living in a racist wonderland dominated by white privileged cisgender patriarchs right now, I'm not above encouraging (perhaps even assisting) recent immigrants in accidentally maybe voting a little earlier than they might otherwise, because if we don't win in 2020 I'm not sure we'll ever recover from the judicial nominees we're getting now.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY...actually means what it says.

[Kingofalldems]

22. Interesting post.

[mcar]

11. CNN is

Jim Acosta asked Dotard about DACA while he was coloring with the children. Dotard went on an "it's the Ds fault" riff. Acosta said, "but Mr President, didn't you cancel DACA?" Dotard did not reply.

RWNJs on Twitter are calling for Acosta to be suspended.

[kentuck]

14. Exactly!

DACA would be in effect right now if Trump had not repealed the executive order signed by Obama. It was Trump that signed it. No one else. He alone is to blame. No one else.

[kentuck]

18. kick

Trump single-handedly did away with DACA.

[Vinca]

24. We're always complaining about how quiet Republicans are about Trump, but let's face it -

Democrats aren't much better. When they do speak, they rarely "tell it like it is." Democrats have got to get past the notion they can work with Republicans. It's time to call out the Orange Fuhrer for the racist pig he is. (Today's example: calling the dead Trump Tower occupant a "crazy Jew.&quot

[NewJeffCT]

25. Where do Democrats have a platform to pound away about DACA?

Trump and his daily scandals, outrageous tweets and statements and daily firings/resignations suck all the media attention out of the room. There is very little room left for Democrats to get any attention to any issue.

The platform for Democrats is a few hours at night on MSNBC and late night talk show comedians. Most of the media that tries to be balanced spend their time reacting to Trump's daily shit storms.

Republicans have Fox News, One America, Sinclair Broadcasting, most of the nations's newspapers and hundreds of RW talk radio shows to get their message out.

[oberliner]

26. It is odd how the DACA situation has sort of disappeared

I wish we would keep pushing for it.