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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 08:58 AM Apr 2018

Trump Only Leads Kasich by 6 Points In New Hampshire


April 2, 2018 at 9:29 pm EDTBy Taegan Goddard

A new American Research Group poll in New Hampshire finds President Trump leads Gov. John Kasich (R) in a possible presidential primary by 6 points, 48% to 42%.

Trump leads Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) by a wider margin, 49% to 33%, with 18% of voters undecided.

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/04/02/trump-only-leads-kasich-by-6-points-in-new-hampshire/
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still_one

(92,192 posts)
5. Is he really leading? 18% are undecided. For a sitting President, and Katich only 6 points behind,
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:34 AM
Apr 2018

I am not so sure


still_one

(92,192 posts)
4. I don't think so kentuck. In fact I would lay odds the only way that will happen is if they have
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:21 AM
Apr 2018

more than two republicans challenging him in the primary.

I don't think Kasich should be underestimated. The only reason he did so badly in the republican primaries in 2016 is because the there were too many republicans in the primary, and they took votes away from each other, which benefited trump. Just adding the numbers of all the republicans candidates pretty much said that.

It should also be noted that 18% are undecided. That is huge for a sitting President

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
8. I would like to think so but...
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:47 AM
Apr 2018

85-90% of Republicans still support Trump in the polls.

Unless the present reality changes, Trump is charged or stock market crashes, I do not see that many Republicans deserting their Leader.

Republicans simply cannot be trusted.

still_one

(92,192 posts)
10. To me it isn't a surprise that the republilcans still support trump. It is the only game in town
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:11 AM
Apr 2018

for them, though I would argue that the special elections that have been occurring around the country, the Democratic victories that have occurred, especially in predominately red states did have republican cross overs.

In the Pennsylvania district 18 election, where Lamb won by a very narrow margin, it was reported that a good number of yards which had trump signs on them in 2016, had Lamb signs on them for the special election. While those reports are second hand and more anecdotal then a true indicator, I think it still is an indicator that there is dissension among their ranks

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
3. and look at this crap: tRump ratings up with these four groups......men, young voters, middle aged
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:15 AM
Apr 2018

voters, and college graduates.

Men. Trump was at 50% approval in March as compared to 42% approval in February.
Young voters. In February, just 1 in 5 voters aged 18-34 approved of how Trump was handling the job. In March, that number increased to 30%
Middle-aged voters. Trump's gains among the young(ish) were one-upped by his showing among those between 35 and 49 years old, where he gained 9 points in approval in a month.
College graduates: A group that has long been resistant to Trump had the biggest change of heart toward him between February and March: A 10-point swing.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/politics/trump-approval-cnn-poll/index.html

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. The problem with the nomination process
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:36 AM
Apr 2018

is that if more than one semi-sane Republican gets into the race, they'll split the vote and leave the remainder for Trump. That's how he won the nomination - they "sane" alternative kept changing - Jeb Bush, then Ben Carson, then Carly Fiorina, then Kasich and then Cruz.

That could happen with the Democrats as well in 2020 - If Bernie gets most of his 2016 voters again, the other Democrats could split between Harris, Booker, Kennedy, Biden, Murphy, etc leading Bernie to run away with the nomination.

still_one

(92,192 posts)
12. I agree. If you add all the poll numbers up with all the republican candidates except trump in the
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:22 AM
Apr 2018

early republican primaries in 2016, it was pretty clear they were splitting the vote which gave trump the nomination, because too many of those republican candidates stayed in the race too long, and by the time they finally got out, it was too late.

They may do the same thing again in 2020, but if they limit the number of republican candidates challenging trump to no more than two candidates, I don't think it will be a shoe in for trump to get the republican nomination.

Unlike some of the speculation here, as long republicans have a majority in House, I think it is unlikely that trump will be impeached. Even if we gain control of the House in 2018, it will be a very tough haul to get a 2/3 conviction in the Senate.

I can still hope



NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. I agree on the Senate
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:53 AM
Apr 2018

However, if Democrats can win the House, they will be able to hold public hearings and people like Kushner, Don Jr, Eric Trump, Carter Page and others will look like bigly morons when cross-examined by the likes of Adam Schiff, Rep. Nadler and others. (Harvard JD Schiff versus Agriculture MS Devin Nunes is a mismatch)

If we get public meltdowns live on TV, I think the tide will turn against Trump.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
11. Please dont read into polls 2 years away from the primary.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:15 AM
Apr 2018

Kasich barely won his own home state. He doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
16. It really is scary Trump's approval is still so high at this point.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

I think he could literally start another Holocaust at this point and get away with it.

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