Now he trashes and slanders the Post Office:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. Resign.

And then go away.

Message not to you, Kingofalldems, your majesty.

[MineralMan]

2. Hey, Trump! Learn to spell!

Then go to Hell!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

3. He was clearly referring to the "Bourne Identity."

Buy stock in Universal Pictures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bourne_Identity_(2002_film)

[MineralMan]

4. LOL!

Watch him edit it to "boarne."

[Afromania]

6. Hell is too good for him. His entire existence needs to be expunged from the universe.

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[AJT]

5. I don't think tax payers fund the post office. Anyone know?

[MineralMan]

7. Yah, it's a weird hybrid.

I liked it better when it was a federal agency.

[unblock]

9. yeah that article is kinda fucked up.

we do not "give" them $18 billion in any reasonable sense of the word.

the article is trying to make as if usps is a private business, then estimating the commercial value of having exclusive access to residential mailboxes and then claiming that that made up amount is something we "give" them.

completely idiotic, and biased to make readers think the usps is somehow an unfair drain on the budget.

[AJT]

11. That's a very misleading article. The issue of delivering to mail boxes

is an interpretation of the constitution. Complaining that the USPS pays employees decently is just sad. The article is a push to privatize it.

[B2G]

12. Where is this in the Constitution??

It was a law passed by Congress.

[Kingofalldems]

13. So...are you agreeing with Trump?

[B2G]

14. Are you saying that USPS is efficient and

couldn't stand some modernization? And that it doesn't bleed money?

[Kingofalldems]

15. Yes. They do a great job actually.

Just wondering why you jumped in on a thread about Trump trashing the Postal Service and calling into question the integrity of their leadership. Did you not read his tweet?

[gratuitous]

19. The Postal Service had to fund 75 years of pension benefits in 5 years

Thanks to Newt Gingrich, USPS has been driven into penury because of pension obligations. They've weathered the worst part of the storm, but there's still debt to be retired. I will not post odds on what a future Republican-controlled Congress will do when that inviting pile of pension money beckons to be spent on some pet project.

[NCTraveler]

25. As someone who regularly uses a number of their mailing services...

I can promise you that they are extremely efficient. They have been doing a lot to modernize and do offer an extremely competitive service. I’m sending out just under one thousand pieces of standard mail per month and I can tell my clients when it will be to them. Their success rate is mind blowing.

Trump just wants to privatize it. Something that would only make sense if it’s a solid operation. He wants to cut a major and somewhat new revenue stream from them.

[LanternWaste]

22. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the US Constitution

Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the US Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".






And, as not every answer can be conveniently found in bumper stickers or a one-sentence reponse, you now have plenty of reading assignments to get you up to speed. Good luck!!!

[NCTraveler]

28. Best part about DU.

Learning moments.

[Kingofalldems]

29. Excellent.

[brush]

31. You're right. USPS has to fund itself and was saddled with funding retirement benefits...

for workers decades in the future by repugs trying to privatize that business for FedEx and UPS and their other paymasters.

No other agency or gov. department has that burden.

Of course trump doesn't know the gov. doesn't fund the PO, but WTF does he know about anything?

[TheBlackAdder]

16. Actually, it's FedEx & UPS who socialize final segment costs to the USPS while privatizing profits.

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The USPS has the infrastructure to perform the most expensive part of package delivery--final segment delivery.

It is where they take the package form the regional distribution center and deliver it to the recipient.


While FedEx and UPS run delivery trucks in high-density areas, they rely on the USPS to perform most rural and suburban deliveries. Expedited packaging and other special delivery services are performed with their trucks. THat is why you will often see packages, shipped by FedEx or UPS delivered in your mailbox or by your letter carrier.

This is the most expensive part, and the USPS only makes $0.01 profit per package.

Over the years, these two carriers have lobbied congress to hobble the USPS so they would not be as competitive to their bread and butter services -- overnight and expedited deliveries. However, they want them viable enough to offload the expensive final segment needs. That is, until enough money is placed into the USPS retirement fund, then it will be sold to Bain Capital and raided--leaving taxpayers on the hook to replenish those billions.

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[Kingofalldems]

18. Exactly.

[brush]

32. Once mail service is privatized the cost of mailing will rise exponentially...

and forget about getting mail in your mailbox—think about centralized pick-up depots because UPS and FedEx don't have the delivery capacity to reach every address in the country like the Post Office.

But they have deep pockets for their donations to repug campaigns.

[syringis]

17. The American Tax Payer ?

America has only one tax payer for the whole country ?

Assuming it is not Trump, who is this "Sacrificial lamb" ?

[flibbitygiblets]

20. Amazon also has their own delivery service

In urban areas, like Portland. OR, about half our Amazon deliveries are USPS/UPS. The rest are delivered by Amazon themselves. The latter are far less professional, i.e., don't knock to alert us our package arrived...just leave it on the porch, making it an easy target for thieves. Traditional delivery carriers are friendly, often leaving a treat for my dog and or hiding packages behind the fence if we are not home.

We've been discussing using Amazon less due to impact on small business and takeover of good companies like Whole Foods. But now... yeah Truck Fump.

[Renew Deal]

21. UPS and Fedex are loving this

[FarCenter]

26. Cohn disagreed with Trump about USPS and Amazon. Kudlow agrees with him.

“Unlike Gary Cohn, Larry Kudlow agrees with Trump that Amazon is a “problem,” a source briefed on their conversations tells me,” tweeted Sherman Tuesday.

I'm pretty sure that Kudlow would like to see USPS collapse, followed by privatization.

[brush]

33. Bernie Sanders agrees with trump too. Go figure?

Even if Sanders has different reasons for being against Amazon than the orange doofus it would be better not to publicly side with trump.

[alarimer]

34. Amazon is an amazingly shitty company to its workers

And it is bad, very bad, for any one company to have so much power, to be able to influence the activities of the USPS in this way,.

This is what Sanders said and it is a lie to characterize that as agreeing with Trump.

[brush]

35. Wasn't he asked in the interview if he agreed with trump about Amazon?

It's pretty well known here that Amazon sucks but IMO it's still not wise to seem to agree with trump.

[oasis]

23. Market forces at work, and all that GOP rubbish, seems to have

slipped loose from Trump's addled brain.

[FarCenter]

24. Historically, first class mail subsidized everything else. But web payments killed that off.

The USPS has taken a huge revenue hit as Americans resisted paying 49 cents to mail a payment by check and did web payments through their banks bill payment systems or direct to billers with credit cards.

As customers became more comfortable with web payment, they have also shifted a little more slowly to paperless billing, which removed another big slice of USPS revenues. Every biller is very keen to minimize the paper bill volume, which is capital and labor intensive in addition to the postage even when outsourced to specialty print and mail firms.

Newspapers, magazines, direct mail marketing, etc never paid their way.

USPS's ability to raise parcel rates is limited by competition with UPS, FedEx, DHL and other courier services. Amazon itself will deliver via the minimum cost means that meets performance objectives, and it is experimenting with other arrangements, such as delivery for pickup at various businesses. I'd think delivery lockers at Whole Foods is a given.

Therefore, the only solution for the USPS is to raise the prices on its remaining monopoly businesses delivering paper to the mailboxes. Pricing Amazon packages at fully allocated cost rates will just drive volume to other delivery services.

[Sanity Claws]

27. bourne?

Fucking moron can't spell. It is borne, the past tense of bear.

[louis-t]

30. Hey dumbass, the Post Office is not a country.

The Post Office is not paid for by taxes.
You are a real asshole.