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TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:06 PM Apr 2018

WTF is a "First World" place and where are they?

B/c Alex Jones apparently wants to go there.

I know what "Old World" nations are: The mostly European Imperialist/Colonial powers that dominated 18th and 19th Century historical and economic analysis and writing.

And I know what "New World" nations are: Generally speaking, the nations contiguous with the North/Central/South American continental areas colonized by the Old World nations.

And I know what "Third World" nations are: Nations characterized by highly industrialized nations (mostly Old and New World powers) as economically and/or socially unsuccessful, usually because they can't or won't buy a lot of manufactured shit from Old and New World powers.

So what the fuck is a "First World" nation? The kind Alex Jones wants to go to? As in:

"...I want to see Mexico beautiful everywhere like it is in some spots and first-world. I’ll go move down there...”

I have friends in Mexico who want to know what they'll need to do to keep from becoming the kind of First World toilet that would attract a turd like Jones.

Anyone...?

Help me out, here...?

bewilderedly,
Bright

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WTF is a "First World" place and where are they? (Original Post) TygrBright Apr 2018 OP
Cold War relic DBoon Apr 2018 #1
Interesting that I lived through the Cold War and studied the history thereof... TygrBright Apr 2018 #3
There were actually 5 levels.... KelleyKramer Apr 2018 #7
Mar-a-Lago might be a tiny first world nation. Shrike47 Apr 2018 #2
That makes perfect sense, thanks. TygrBright Apr 2018 #4
Well economically speaking angrychair Apr 2018 #5
Any Trump hotel. gibraltar72 Apr 2018 #6

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
1. Cold War relic
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:08 PM
Apr 2018

First World = USA and allies in Europe
Second World = USSR and allies in Europe
Third World = decolonized nations up for grabs

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
3. Interesting that I lived through the Cold War and studied the history thereof...
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:10 PM
Apr 2018

...without ever coming across that usage.

Thanks.

nonplusedly,
Bright

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
7. There were actually 5 levels....
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:13 PM
Apr 2018

The three listed in the post above and also 4th and 5th world nations were the very poorest and most undeveloped countries in the world

For what it's worth, that's what they taught us in 9th grade civics class

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
4. That makes perfect sense, thanks.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:11 PM
Apr 2018

Sort of like a Mini-Monaco thing.

Can we build a wall to keep its denizens from entering America?

hopefully,
Bright

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
5. Well economically speaking
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

Not sure what that idiot Jones is talking about but to answer your question, there are three “types” of nations:

First world

Second world

Third world

“First world” nations are typically modern, democratic and capitalist, mostly the allies from WWII: http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/first_world.htm (examples are US, France and Australia)

“Second world” nations are typically more advanced developing nations, former Soviet republics and eastern-bloc nations: http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/second_world.htm (examples are Romania, Russia and even China)

“Third world” is under-developed or struggling nations, both politically and economically, typically those in Asia, some in South and Central America, Caribbean and Africa (Cambodia, Sudan and Paraguay as examples)

Many nations (especially Russia and China) take offense to the terms and some look at it as western arrogance.

General rule of thumb is the more stable a nation is, both economically and politically, the more free its citizens are and the more it participates on the international stage (alliances, UN, economic groups like the OECD) the higher your nation is perceived to be on that list.

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