Trump appearing like he's beating Mueller's probe, even for a moment, is incredibly demoralizing

[bigtree]

...the first effect of telling Trump he's a 'subject' and not a 'target' will clearly be Trump feeling unbound to act more aggressively, even if his legal status is still up in the air.

I realize that it may well be just a blip in this investigation, but most of us can see Trump breaking the law right in front of us. It stings to imagine he'll walk. It hurts to think he might escape charges.

Even though Mueller has done a good job, so far, increasing jeopardy for the Trump cabal, this reported development appears to lessen pressure on the president, if only on paper. Sue me for feeling pessimistic. Mueller needs to fix this.

[MFM008]

1. do you always admit to someone

they are the target of an investigation when you ask them to "answer questions"......
trapdoor spider technique?

[bigtree]

5. yep, it might just be a tactic by the prosecutor

...to disarm Trump before an interview.

But, fuck.

[TomSlick]

2. My theory from an earlier thread.

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210447423|

[pbmus]

3. Well...

Link to tweet

[bdamomma]

8. what an ugly POS

he is, I am so tired of him, get the hook please. We have suffered enough.

[bdamomma]

4. Do not Fret

read this thread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210447617

[uponit7771]

6. Dread Not, the title can change in less than an hour

[UTUSN]

7. "breaking the law right in front of us" is his m.o./nothing new to see here

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. He's not beaten anything.

He's a subject, and he could become a target in a New York minute. Also, the question of whether a sitting president can be indicted hasn't been definitively resolved, so what Mueller could do instead is write a report detailing his crimes (if there is sufficient evidence of them) and send it to Congress as a basis for impeachment.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. As someone who has been on a

Grand Jury,if there is or are any chargeable offenses,and these charges are backed by evidence,charges will be brought. Remember,this Grand Jury will most likely call Trump to questioned,without Attorney,and most likely each and every member of that Jury will have questions to ask.

As someone posted earlier today,you can walk into a Grand Jury room as a Subject and Leave a Target charge with a crime.

[EffieBlack]

11. Being a "subject" of a federal investigation ain't beanbag

I sure would never want to be one.

[bigtree]

12. he should have been a 'subject' from day one

...that ain't the news I'm pining for.

I get that it's a big deal that a 'suspected' criminal is in the WH.

[EffieBlack]

18. It's huge

And had he been the subject from day one, it would have looked like a witch hunt.
A good prosecutor never starts at the top and then tries to find evidence to support their suspicions. Mueller had to start with the actual evidence he had and work his way up.

[highplainsdem]

13. See this thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210447643


And please read both the points that former US attorney made. The second one is particularly important in light of your worries.

[bigtree]

14. he'll need to make clear he doesn't believe he can indict a sitting president

...and make clear crimes have been committed and would have been prosecuted for anyone other than a sitting president.

Does anyone believe Congress will easily impeach Trump for anything other than criminal charges, much less crimes said to be committed in a report?

[world wide wally]

15. He's not a target...

'Til he is a target

[HopeAgain]

16. Mueller's investigation will be what it will be.

There is nothing we can do about it. The Midterms, however, are something we can affect.

[GallopingGhost]

17. He won't escape charges.

He's happy about the news that a month ago, his lawyers were told he wasn't "currently" a target is akin to Dracula feeling safe at 4 AM because the sun hasn't risen. Yet.

[Doodley]

19. If Meuller is legit, Trump will be found to have broken all kinds of laws, even if it has nothing to

do with Russia. There is no way, a man who has cheated and lied all his life will get away Scot free from this kind of deep and broad investigation.

[ecstatic]

20. I feel the same way. Mueller seems to be our only hope

right now, and as such, I'm really nervous that he's going to act like the republican he is. I truly cannot handle another year of trump. Can't do it.