Roseanne Ratings Remain Strong In Week 2

[Blue_Adept]

ABC’s Roseanne revival settled in last night with a slice-of-life episode focused on parenting after the premiere tackled President Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and the election. The ratings took the inevitable dip but remained impressive — 15.1 million viewers and a 3.9 rating among adults 18-49 in the fast nationals at 8 PM last night. Vs. the 8-8:30 PM part of the double premiere episode last week (17.7 million, 4.9/21), Roseanne retained 84% of the debut audience and 80% of the adults 18-49 rating.

http://deadline.com/2018/04/roseanne-ratings-week-2-1202358236/

So, the expected drop off and a better hold than Will & Grace with its second week revival.

[MattP]

1. With 24/7 news coverage of the show it should have gone up

[Blue_Adept]

2. That's not how this works.

[Proud liberal 80]

4. With the show Empire it did

It’s first year it went up every episode even after a big debut.

[dsc]

7. Empire literally set history by doing that

No other show has ever had that happen.

[PubliusEnigma]

3. Let It Sink.

[marble falls]

8. You need to get a grip on yourself, this is not Freep.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. LMFAO

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I believe your interlocutor was referring to something else.

[marble falls]

13. BULLSHIT. You're full of it today.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Building up your post count by lecturing long-serving members on the ToS, hunh. So. . . . . nt

[marble falls]

18. Stalking? And yet there you are trolling me for my respnse. How is that stalking???????

The only Bully here is you with your name calling.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. LMFAO

[marble falls]

20. Jeez, the pizza truck showed up!! That guy was a real piece of work, wasn't he?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. He should have been less obvious.

LOL

[marble falls]

50. I will admit it was fun poking him in the ribs. Nobody gets trolled better than a troll.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. It is only a TOS violation if a majority of jurors deem it to be so.

[cilla4progress]

5. People love

a train wreck.

[BannonsLiver]

14. Breaking: America still full of really easily entertained people

[Tipperary]

22. Transparent.

[BannonsLiver]

23. LOL

Good to hear from a Roseanne Superfan.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Crazy

The OP criticized me for starting too many Roseanne threads. Your current interlocutor wrote that I dislike Roseanne because she refused to give me an autograph.


I'm over Roseanne.

[BannonsLiver]

25. I saw that the other day

Her Superfans are really dedicated and passionate about all things Roseanne. Would be great if that energy and passion were put to use beyond adoration of all things Roseanne.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Some people take their favorite actors and actresses very seriously.

[Tipperary]

58. I am not a super fan of anyone.

I simply find it revealing to learn what is important to certain folks. I understand that many follow celebrity tweets with breathless anticipation, but most of us do not.

Sometimes a tv show is just a tv show - making it into a major du gripe seems silly to me. Besides the fact, how can you comment on a show you have never seen?.. makes no sense.

[BannonsLiver]

63. Two things

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1. I saw the first two episodes, so in fact, I have seen the show. Feel free to quiz me. I had low expectations, and they were met.

2. I’d never support anyone by watching their show, buying their merch or any other fan activity who has slurred President Obama, Secretary Clinton, or anyone else who espouses progressive ideals.

To recap: I’ve seen the show. It’s low grade dreck. And it sucks.

[cwydro]

64. Did you mean dreck?

Not familiar with “drek.”

[BannonsLiver]

67. Yeah, but thanks.

Nice of you to take a few seconds from Roseanne to point that out.

[Tipperary]

78. Omg! You actually WATCHED the evil woman???

Now you have “enriched” her! Oh the shame, the ignominy. How ever will you live that down?

[BannonsLiver]

82. LOL

I wanted to see what all the hullabaloo was about so when Roseanne devotees and Superfans accuse me of "never actually having seen the show" I can say I have. Turns out it's just low grade pablum for folks who are easily entertained. But hey, what would you expect from someone who hates Hillary and Obama and believes in Pizza Gate?

[Blue_Adept]

31. Don't forget when I criticized you for starting too many BREAKING threads

sometimes hours after the news had already broke.

Ah, the primaries!

[Cha]

61. LOL..

[Revanchist]

55. That wasn't obvious by the glut of

Reality and talent shows that are all over prime time television?

[BannonsLiver]

57. Of course

The choice of “still” wasn’t an accident.

[Cha]

73. Actually a "40%" drop..

Link to tweet

[Rorey]

76. That doesn't surprise me.

I haven't seen anyone say this, but the acting is absolutely horrible. The only one who isn't painful to watch is Darlene, played by Sara Gilbert.

I was curious so I watched. The show got a lot of "hype" before its premier. I sure don't see it winning any Emmys. I think viewership will continue to fall off. But then again, sometimes people like to watch crappy shows, for whatever reason, so who knows.

[Blue_Adept]

81. I'm wondering about that drop percentage

Is it based off the live+7 that just added 8.81 million more viewers to the first week and the comparing the second without that same information available since it hasn't been seven days?

The fact that the opening hit 27 million+ viewers is just staggering.

[ismnotwasm]

27. Meh

I’m not gonna watch it, but like a said before it’s a balm for white angst from what I’ve read. In my opinion it’s success comes, in part, from my view that many white people are worn out from trying to not be racist. They want the pressure off, because the white community is full of racism. It’s work, because racism is both overt and insidious. Rosanne the show attracts that demographic, it attracts people who like to watch their big TVs sitting on second hand couches, waiting for a raise, worries about racist Nana’s disability (no hate, I have a big TV and a second hand couch, I’m married to a man with MS; Rosanne’s targeted racist white-world IS my world, except I will never tire of trying to eradicate racism)

And it’s not a RW show, it just has an asshole for a star. It’s been renewed for a second season, l am real curious to see what direction the show will take, and if it will indeed last.

[Blue_Adept]

29. I'm definitely curious to see how they'll handle the cast

I can't imagine Goodman sticking around for the long term outside of guest spots, just like Metcalf, as they have plenty of things to do. Gilbert can likely manage it fairly well around her time on The Talk, but that's probably dependent on how big of a pickup it is. If they're smart, they'll keep it short.

I still haven't seen more than a couple of minutes of the first episode during a walk-by and have zero interest in watching it. I like several of the actors (Sarah Chalke made Scrubs hilarious for me) but not enough to wade into what they're selling here. My work keeps me following tabs on a lot of entertainment types so it's just part of my daily work cycle to hear about these things.

[ismnotwasm]

32. Its a phenomenon for sure

The show is doing remarkably well in this age of streaming whatever-you-want-to-watch. The hype around it is in part, pure showmanship and self promotion by Rosanne Barr. Trump himself didn’t hurt it. Or Fox news for that matter. It will have to maintain what is from all reports quality writing to keep people watching. I find it interesting the political line the show has to maintain as well—neither too left or too right to maintain viewership .

And the mercurial Ms. Barr will have to mind her p’s and q’s to a certain degree. I expect them to tackle a show on school shootings.

[ConnorMarc]

74. Interesting Assessment...I think you might be on to something

I didn't watch the show, nor do I intend to.

I'm not the show's target audience.

Didn't watch the original show either, was in my teens during its original airing, pre-teens to late teens, never caught it.

I actually liked Rosanne the person, not-so-much any more though.

I think the buzz of her Trump support garnered her the views, doubtful it will be sustained.

Remember Palin? I see this no differently than that.

Those viewers you speak of will tire, and when they do, the ratings will plummet.

Meanwhile, I'll just sit back and observe from a distance.

[walkingman]

28. I watched it just to see how I liked it. It was not something I would watch again. Also too

many commercials. We watch PBS and seldom network (except for sports) and it is hard to get used to all of the commercials. I read the reviews and some of the stuff they discussed (the black and brown statement) seemed silly to me. You have to be looking hard to get anything meaningful from the show. Not my cup of tea.

[Blue_Adept]

30. Commercials are mindnumbing

I never watch anything live at this point and I've been a TiVo owner since the first year they launched. One reason I get through as many shows as I do is because of that simple commercial skip button. Between that and a ton of streaming I always feel really weird when I get exposed to live programming with commercials.

[MattP]

34. Hate the new Tivo update hope they adjust it!

[Blue_Adept]

35. I got that update early and I've hated it

It takes longer to get to things and the organization is terrible. They really blew it on the visual layout and navigational aspects. I get the desire to update as the previous really was the same design as they had since 2000, but man, they shot themselves in the foot by trying to look cool.

[misanthrope]

53. More than mindnumbing

I find them nearly vulgar in their obnoxiousness. Loud, flashy and annoying about sums it up.

Like you, I try to opt for ad-free viewing.

[Blue_Adept]

54. It's why I have no problem paying for streaming services

I'd rather spend my money and fund the show that way. Sometimes I'll end up just waiting for it to be on itunes or a Blu-ray release.

[Demsrule86]

36. Yeah well lots of people watch Real Housewives too...I have no interest in Roseanne.

This show is intended to normalize Trump. Thus I won't be watching.

[Fix The Stupid]

37. Watched the 2nd show - literally - no mention of trump or politics...

I read all the stuff - was expecting it to be a tribute to right wing garbage - it just wasn't there...

A lot of stupid unfunny jokes and an annoying as hell laugh track, but it was strangely apolitical..

A little violence on the mouthy grand-daughter, but that was about it for shock value.

Won't watch it again - just not funny - and anything with a laugh track just drives me crazy.

This from a guy who loved the old roseanne shows...

[Blue_Adept]

38. Growing up in the 80's, I cut my teeth on sitcoms

Which led nicely into the 90's standup boom and places like Comedy Central grabbing lots of britcoms that expanded my knowledge.

What I've found is that very few sitcoms from the 80's and 90's hold up today for a range of reasons. The more recent revivals like Will and Grace don't feel like they're coming from a different place and time for the most part. Roseanne from what I saw feels like it never grew up in a way, nothing changed in terms of the look of it all and it's just a straight continuation from season 8 (ignoring season 9 and all).

I know people are all about the fact that the couch is there and the chicken shirt and all that. But it just lacks that kind of natural growth most people go through in their environment, even when you're poor. It feels like it's a show very disconnected in the here in now and not like there's twenty years between the seasons.

[cwydro]

66. Yeah. I found the latest episode kind of a collection of one-liners.

I expected more from the cast.

I liked the old show in the first few seasons, but they jumped the shark.

[Blue_Tires]

39. I guess I've got mixed feelings

1. As a teen I was a fan and fairly regular watcher of the original show... You know, the one that conservatives hated more than any sitcom in history until Will and Grace came along...

2. No matter how much I love a show, I *HATE* reboots because they're lazy and derivative

3. So I haven't watched nor do I plan to

4. I find it impossible to fully hate anything that John Goodman is in so maybe he can succeed while the show fails?

[arthritisR_US]

40. I will not give that show one minute of my time.

[MineralMan]

41. OK, but I'm still not going to watch it.

Lots of shows have good ratings. I don't watch many of those, either.

Some people will watch "Roseanne." Others will not. Are we going to track the shows ratings here in GD? I can't imagine why...

[Blue_Adept]

43. Obviously not but this one garnered a lot of attention for reasons you know fully

And a lot of commentary over the past week was "let's see how it does in week 2", which makes it relevant.

[oxbow]

42. It was a badly written episode

Jokes were hacky, I don’t think I laughed once.the story was nothing new, but with a couple of social media references to make it seem up to date. The new season has been pretty uneven so far. No guarantee it will become a phenomenon yet.

[USALiberal]

65. LOL, ok. nt

[skypilot]

44. I'm going to ask this question here in this thread.

I've been meaning to ask this question but I didn't want to start another Roseanne thread to ask it. So my question is: How did the writers resurrect Dan? I didn't watch the later seasons of Roseanne much back in the day and I only caught some of those episodes much later in reruns. The very last episode (I think) revealed that Dan had died, they never really hit the lottery, Darlene was married to Mark instead of David and a few other things that I can't remember.

I only watched about five minutes of the first episode of this new season but I didn't catch it from the beginning so I don't know how the things I mentioned were explained.

[Blue_Adept]

45. Season 9 was basically Roseanne in-character writing a book/fanfic of sorts

So the bulk of the season was "all a dream" as an easy out.

[skypilot]

46. Yes, but...

...I thought that in the last episode she explained that what we'd watched was just her fictional "story" but then she went on to tell us what the "real" events were. One of the "real" events was that Dan had died. Or did I misunderstand the episode?

[Blue_Adept]

47. I haven't seen it since it aired

But my understanding was that they largely wrote the whole season off as a dream and have just moved on from there.

[RandomAccess]

56. I didn't see those old episodes -- but I heard that he'd died

The only thing they did, and I thought this was both clever and cute, was Roseanne and Dan were in bed, and Rosanne was yelling, "Dan, Dan" and he woke, sat up and he was wearing a CPAP mask. "I thought you were dead," she said. And he answered, "Why does everyone always think I'm dead?"

To my knowledge that was the only reference to it at all.

[skypilot]

59. OK.

So, Dan isn't dead but now I'm wondering who Darlene is married to. Is she married to Mark or David? That "final" episode, which revealed a lot of events to be part of the book that Roseanne was writing, really confused some things for me. In that episode she revealed that she'd paired up Darlene with David for her story but that Darlene and Mark were the actual couple. I know that the actor who played Mark died years ago and the actor who played David is doing The Big Bang Theory, so it will be interesting to see what the writers do.

[RandomAccess]

70. Darlene doesn't seem to be married to anyone --

she's there living with Rosanne with her spoiled daughter and a gender-confused son.

and I can't answer ANY of your questions since I was apparently not watching any of that at the time. Sorry.

[Tarc]

48. I know it is the DU minority, but I'm still watching it

Episode 3 was a bit of a tv trope, the "teach the snaky teen a lesson", but still kind of entertaining.

Rosanne the person has become a stain on polite society, Roseanne the show is not bad.

[joshcryer]

49. It's ABC, creators of wholesome shows like Modern Family and Black-ish.

I'd be shocked if the show was anything but a charming reinvention of the original. It's something to watch.

Then you put in Roseanne's antics on social media and it's something of controversy.

If anyone is stupid enough to think that Roseanne has any control whatsoever of the show they're idiots. The thing was copy-tested and carefully curated. And no I don't have to see it to know this. This is how all shows are made these days.

[BlueJac]

51. Not on my radar...

waste of time!

[HopeAgain]

52. Watching Roseanne would be, to me,

like kissing a girl you just watched throw up. I can't get her crazy hateful stuff out of my mind.

[left-of-center2012]

60. The "canned laughter" ruins it for me

About every thirty seconds they play the fake laughter.
Totally ruins the show, in my humble opinion.

[George II]

62. Down 40% over last week, the writer (not you) is exaggerating.

[Cha]

72. That's actually a lot.. Thank you

George..

Link to tweet

[Hugin]

68. Over two episodes it loses 20% of it's audience.

Should be good for eight episodes at that rate... Until only Trumpazees are watching it.

[FreeState]

69. So about 3.5% of the US population. Im not worried n/t

[former9thward]

71. That can be said about any TV show.

[kentuck]

75. I binge-watched both episodes last night.

It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.

It's a lot like the "old Roseanne".

I thought it was entertaining. I don't think they over-did any of the Donald Trump BS.

Just my opinion.

[still_one]

77. Is an actor who supports a racist, sexist, bigot, mean that actor shares those same values?

[heaven05]

79. what

surprises anyone here? about roseanne and her shows 'ratings'? The last year has been spent normalizing extreme animus for all people(s) deemed NOT a part of the fascist takeover of ameriKKKa. The lies spewing from huckaberry and Sinclair every news day is newspeak directly coached from trump minions.

I am living in 'Oceania' 2018.

[Blue_Adept]

80. Roseanne Revival Premiere Sets More Ratings Records In Live+7 Viewing

The ratings records keep coming for the debut of ABC’s Roseanne revival last week. After setting a new record for the largest-ever total viewer Live+3 lift, the sitcom’s Season 10 opener has scored TV’s largest-ever Total Viewer L+7 increase for any single telecast on any network with a big +8.81 million viewer lift over its L+SD tally. That topped the previous high,+7.86 million gain for the 9/25/17 debut of ABC’s new drama The Good Doctor. After seven days of delayed viewing, the audience of the Roseanne premiere has grown to 27.26 million total viewers (from 18.45 million in Live+Same Day).

http://deadline.com/2018/04/roseanne-revival-premiere-ratings-records-in-live7-viewing-1202358977/