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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:31 PM Apr 2018

So, Mueller's "team" told Trump's "lawyers" that he wasn't a "target" of a criminal investigation?

Are we to assume that the story came from Trump's lawyers?

Wouldn't that put Mueller and his team in an awkward situation, in that they cannot come out and dispute the claim? Because if they denied it, that would mean that Donald Trump could be a "target" of a criminal investigation? Could this be nothing more than Trump's lawyers attempting to steer their side to a more favorable position??

After all, the office of the Special Counsel has been very diligent in keeping quiet about information they did not want into the public.

On further study, we may find that this story originated with Donald Trump and his lawyers and may or may not be true?

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So, Mueller's "team" told Trump's "lawyers" that he wasn't a "target" of a criminal investigation? (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2018 OP
Thye did say "at this time". guillaumeb Apr 2018 #1
"They" said that Mueller's said "at this time". kentuck Apr 2018 #4
Probably. But even they did not give a definitive statement. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #9
Until I hear from Mueller, I am not able to give this story a lot of credence... kentuck Apr 2018 #10
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Apr 2018 #11
"We are going to leak a story...." kentuck Apr 2018 #12
I do not beleive that Mueller will be persuaded or feel threatened. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #13
I think Trump has a criminal mind... kentuck Apr 2018 #14
Trump seems to be a classic con man. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #15
No doubt about that! kentuck Apr 2018 #16
But the TeeVee had a picture of Mueller! Turbineguy Apr 2018 #2
It's almost certainly true marylandblue Apr 2018 #3
Mueller is driving this Investigation. Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #5
Has Mueller responded to this story in any way? kentuck Apr 2018 #6
Good, no need to stir pot before midterms Cicada Apr 2018 #7
Mueller is supposed to give a written "report" in June or July... kentuck Apr 2018 #8
Not sure, kentuck. The WaPo reporters that covered the story are legit. Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #17
Yes, the reporters are legit. kentuck Apr 2018 #18
If the reporters weren't able to corroborate White House sources would they have run with the story? Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #19
I don't know that Mueller's team would have corroborated such information? kentuck Apr 2018 #21
And if they only reported the leak Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #22
It's possible someone on the Mueller team confirmed the leak, I suppose? kentuck Apr 2018 #23
Mueller is light-years ahead of the white house bozos spanone Apr 2018 #20

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
10. Until I hear from Mueller, I am not able to give this story a lot of credence...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:36 PM
Apr 2018

Because the White House lies and makes up shit.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
12. "We are going to leak a story...."
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:58 PM
Apr 2018

"...to the Washington Post, that you have found nothing criminal and that the President is not a target of any criminal investigation. Also, we are going to say that you will file a report in June or July to end this investigation....Capiche?"...

"...And if anyone disputes that this happened, we will move to shut down the investigation. Got it?"

(Conversation between Trump lawyers and lawyers on the Mueller team)


Impossible?


Which translated = Shit is about to get real.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
13. I do not beleive that Mueller will be persuaded or feel threatened.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:43 PM
Apr 2018

I think the NY state level option is insurance against this and any preemptive pardons.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
14. I think Trump has a criminal mind...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:04 PM
Apr 2018

He crosses one bridge at a time. We have been assured that the NY Attorney General is the back-up insurance if the Mueller investigation is shut down. I doubt that he would be able to get away with anything in NY state...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
15. Trump seems to be a classic con man.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:06 PM
Apr 2018

Luckily for him, there is a nearly inexhaustible supply of gullible voters waiting to be conned.

Turbineguy

(37,346 posts)
2. But the TeeVee had a picture of Mueller!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

Wouldn't that prove that Mueller released this information?



This story probably came from where trump gets all his facts. His ass.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. It's almost certainly true
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

Because if they wanted to make Trump look innocent, they would have said Trump is "just a witness."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Mueller is driving this Investigation.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:39 PM
Apr 2018

And nothing is going to derail this investigation. Each Investigator has the similiar power as Mueller.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
7. Good, no need to stir pot before midterms
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:03 PM
Apr 2018

As Senator Cruz of Texas said Dems now will crawl over broken glass to vote. I don’t want Trump supporters to wake up so I hope nothing happens fro Mueller until after November.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
8. Mueller is supposed to give a written "report" in June or July...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:28 PM
Apr 2018

It is being reported??

Is that info coming from the Special Counsel office also?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. Not sure, kentuck. The WaPo reporters that covered the story are legit.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:26 PM
Apr 2018

Then again, the timing is weird. The same day Trump goes apeman on Jeff Bezos, the Post carries this story.

I think it may be a genuine leak, but one that Mueller intended to be disclosed to one man in particular: Trump.

Trying to lull him into a false sense of complacency. Maybe lower his guard and agree to an interview.

May have just been bait.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
18. Yes, the reporters are legit.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:00 PM
Apr 2018

But someone leaked the story to them. Was it Trump's lawyers or was it Mueller's lawyers? I think it has been reported that the story came from Trump's lawyers to the Wash Post reporters? Dowd would have been on the team at the time Trump's lawyers were told that Trump was not a "target" of a criminal investigation.

Is this the information that was leaked to the reporters? They would have only reported what they were told, in my opinion. Can we trust the information, is the question? If the leak had come from Mueller's office, it would be much more trustworthy.

I think there is much more to this story than has been reported. Just my opinion.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. If the reporters weren't able to corroborate White House sources would they have run with the story?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:21 PM
Apr 2018

I guess I don't know the answer to that question. Seems if all they did was report what was being leaked by the WH, we'd be getting a very skewed - and untrue - point of view from a seminal newspaper.

Then again, Mueller does not leak, so who could have corroborated this info? Velly interesting.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
21. I don't know that Mueller's team would have corroborated such information?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:35 PM
Apr 2018

Good question!

But, in this instance, they may have only reported the leak?

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
23. It's possible someone on the Mueller team confirmed the leak, I suppose?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:00 PM
Apr 2018

But I cannot imagine Donald Trump having that information and not tweeting about it or talking about it at every stop?

Something about this story doesn't add up for me??

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