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american_ideals

(613 posts)
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 10:22 PM Apr 2018

The President is lying about voting, to gain political advantage and in pursuit of power.

The main problem with voting in the United States is voter suppression by the right.
It's a problem that the right tries to make it hard to vote.
It's a problem that the right tries to create lines at Dem-leaning precincts.
It's a problem that registration is hard - we shouldn't even need to register at all.
It's a problem that the right tries to purge Dem voters from the rolls.
It's a problem that Election Day is a work day - it should be a weekend.

The GOP has been working to suppress votes for decades - they need to cheat to win.

But to cover their tracks, the GOP needs to tell lies. In particular they need to use the mirror method - falsely accuse Dems of doing the same bad acts the GOP is doing. That's why the GOP lies about voter fraud.

Here's the lie the president is telling.




Trump in WV: "In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say 'oh that's a conspiracy theory.' Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people."


This is a flat lie.
Here's a good article from TPM saying why the voter fraud stuff is a lie.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/your-basic-primer-on-why-trump-s-voter-fraud-claims-are-bullshit
Check out their coverage of how badly Kobach, chief GOP voter suppressor, got smacked down by a Kansas judge recently.

Also, the Russians are in on this too:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/indictment-russians-pushed-voter-fraud-mtyh


And here's why we have to pay attention:





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The President is lying about voting, to gain political advantage and in pursuit of power. (Original Post) american_ideals Apr 2018 OP
He's nuts. C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #1
It's a classic R tactic: Accuse us of what THEY are actually doing. Classic diversion tactics. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2018 #2
Mirror method. Accuse people of the crimes you commit. american_ideals Apr 2018 #3
The losers buying this BS would have a hard time finding California on a map . Get real morans lunasun Apr 2018 #4
30+% of the country. To stop it: tell people you know about these lies american_ideals Apr 2018 #5
No way ..these people don't talk to me except to be nasty and I don't know any trumpers lunasun Apr 2018 #7
Yup, don't give up on the country :) american_ideals Apr 2018 #9
In the opiate capital of the country they'll believe anything Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #6
Head to toe he's full of SHIT. spanone Apr 2018 #8

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
2. It's a classic R tactic: Accuse us of what THEY are actually doing. Classic diversion tactics.
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 10:30 PM
Apr 2018

And stupid people believe it!

We have got to hammer this point home.



american_ideals

(613 posts)
5. 30+% of the country. To stop it: tell people you know about these lies
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 10:55 PM
Apr 2018

The rightwing propaganda machine is the only source of info for 30% of the United States.
That's why the president still has support.

If we want to defeat this president we need grassroots efforts: tell peeople face to face about these lies.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
7. No way ..these people don't talk to me except to be nasty and I don't know any trumpers
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 11:13 PM
Apr 2018

They have no respect for what I would say
I try to avoid them , as most POC I know do the same and I am in a dem city Chicago , but if anyone can contact these types and try to bring them back to reality I do appreciate the attempts.

The last thing this country needs is a bunch of good Germans not wanting to make trouble with friends and neighbors and looking the other way while he destroys the nation . Speak to folks on the sidelines too, if they will listen to you and it is safe to do so.

Yes > 30% are already under the propaganda influence that is clear.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
9. Yup, don't give up on the country :)
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 01:38 AM
Apr 2018

If we don't try, we can't persuade them. Don't leave them to Fox and Limbaugh.

The propaganda is the true problem with the country. And it's all been created by GOP billionaires to generate fear, all in pursuit of votes. Votes for tax cuts for the rich.

Did you see Robert Mercer paid for islamophobic propaganda?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/robert-mercer-spent-2m-anti-muslim-ads-2016-election-article-1.3916273

Same old story: GOP billionaire pays for propaganda to incite fear. What does the billionaire want? Votes for GOP, to cut taxes on the rich.


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