MSNBC: Mueller moves to seize Bank accounts (politico)

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Nicole Wallace just reported

Link: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/manafort-mueller-moves-to-seize-bank-accounts-505307

[asiliveandbreathe]

1. Yes, Jill Wine-Banks sure knows how to put things in perspective...I have a question..

If Mueller is now setting his sights on Cohen - when does lawyer client privilege kick in....

[shraby]

4. I think how that works, is when it involves criminal action from both parties, the

lawyer client privilege is waived. They can't hide crimes they are both involved in.

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7. Tkss shraby - spot on - reading the legal pages is like readin an insurance policy..I gleened this

The crime-fraud exception can render the privilege moot when communications between an attorney and client are themselves used to further a crime, tort, or fraud.


In Clark v. United States, the US Supreme Court stated that "A client who consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud will have no help from the law.

I find the law fascinating...will read USSC Clark v US....

Tks again...I want these POSs in jail!!!

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8. i think, more precisely, there is no lawyer/client confidentiality regarding the commission of crime

there remain lawyer/client confidentiality regarding legal advice.

so if i ask my lawyer "is it legal to hide income from the irs and not pay taxes on it?" and my lawyer says "no", that conversation is privileged.

but if i then say to my lawyer "ok, hide my income and i'll not report it on my taxes", that conversation is not privileged.

the original question remains privileged, i believe, as would any defense to any prosecution after the commission of the crime.

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2. wow... I would have thought they would have seized them months ago - n/t

[shraby]

5. He probably did and found out about more of them and is seizing them also.

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6. yeah - that makes sense. n/t

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9. yup he did from the article:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office moved to seize bank accounts at three different financial institutions last year just one day before former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was indicted, prosecutors disclosed in a court filing Thursday.

The previously unknown move against the bank accounts was revealed in a list of search and seizure warrants prosecutors submitted to a federal court in Washington after Manafort's defense team complained that the government was withholding too many details about how the warrants were obtained.

The new filing also indicated that Mueller's investigators have been pressing on with their work in recent weeks despite the pair of indictments pending against Manafort and a detailed indictment in February of the Russia-based Internet Research Agency and a dozen Russian nationals for alleged interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

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11. my bad... helps to read past the headlines.

but then there is so much shit going down, who has the time to read about it all!

[SonofDonald]

12. I just thought of something

Mueller was hiring top talent from the start, a story at the time stated you hire prosecutors to prosecute not investigate.

There's a pic with an iceberg and what we know above water what Mueller knows under water as an example.

I think Mueller has known 80 to 90 percent of the truth after his first week on the job.

Remember the FBI had been investigating for year already and handed it to him along with all intelligence from our such agencies.

I may be wrong but I may be right.

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13. Not only that but..

if they are prosecutors in their own right, they can continue on even if Mueller is fired. I heard that in an interview yesterday.

[Corgigal]

3. Oh snap.

Kushner, knock knock...

[SonofDonald]

10. Gotta love it, I have a HUGE smile right now

Oh boy, and I'm watching Rachel again, She is just destroying the whole Icahn/Pruit cabal, it's not even Friday yet....

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14. Bingo

Please remember that Mueller got John Gotti by flipping Sammy “The Bull” Gravano to testify.
Manafort is now Mueller's Sammy “the bull” Gravano.

[C Moon]

15. Our country is so creepy right now. What the hell is going on?

Mueller and his team must be amazed at what's gone on.
Scary freaking stuff!

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16. knr

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17. Prosecute these fuckers soon.

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18. kick again