CNN has really been normalizing trump lately

[senseandsensibility]

Yesterday they screamed all day about his "red lines" and whether he would fire Mueller. ALL DAY. About 90% of the time, they didn't even give lip service to the fact that there is a regulation to prevent him from doing so, or that he doesn't actually have any authority to establish "red lines."

Today the headline at the top of their page says Rosenstein turned over the files to Nunes, but that might not "save" him. Again, no context.

I think that my years long boycott of them is about to begin again.

[Phoenix61]

1. Liberal media my ass. nt

[Kirk Lover]

3. They very obviously lean left. n/t

[Blecht]

7. WTF?

They don't lean left at all, let alone "obviously".

They occasionally limit their right wing tendencies, but they have not been anywhere near left since Ted sold them.

[Kirk Lover]

8. Obviously you don't watch CNN.

[musette_sf]

12. I've watched CNN since its inception.

They definitely do NOT "lean left". They never have.

[Kirk Lover]

13. Media matters has CNN as flat out left biased. I'm curious as to who you are watching on CNN that

is making you say they definitely do not lean left. I don't get to watch much during 9-5 during the week...but If you could be specific ...I'd like to know who you are talking about.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/

There is also a chart that has been posted many times here on DU showing all the bias of the media and where they fall. CNN was not all the way on the left on that one...they lean left they are not blatant left.

Edit...I found the chart !!! http://www.swagbucks.com/?f=55&t=w&p=1&q=media+bias+chart

They have many left smart sassy pundits and a few dumb right wing ones. When there is a panel you can bet your bippy that there are more liberals than cons.

[musette_sf]

16. MBFC is *not* Media Matters.

CNN is centrist and has skewed ever more center-right over the last 20 or so years.

[Kirk Lover]

17. Whatever they both had them as left leaning. Please tell me on CNN who is right

leaning...please name some names.

[Garrett78]

24. But what constitutes "left" and "right?"

The media, in general, has a habit of promoting false equivalencies and the notion that there are only opinions and no facts. This, I suppose, is done in the name of some twisted sense of what's "fair"...and to boost ratings.

Combine that with a Republican Party that has become increasingly extremist (while the Democratic Party is centrist by European standards, though Europe has also become gripped by right wing paranoia) and you end up with "left-leaning" being a laughable way of describing media outlets in the US.

If an infotainment personality on CNN or whatever happens to acknowledge the absurdity of something said by Trump or Pence or Louie Gohmert or Steve King or Ted Cruz, that hardly makes them left-leaning. When someone like Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell is considered a mainstream or average Republican, we've got a real problem on our hands.

[mvd]

19. I agree with you

The source map by the other poster lists MSNBC and FAUX as the same on the left and right, but that would be wrong. MSNBC has more left leaning hosts, but at least tries to give you straight news much of the time. I don't consider NPR, CBS, and ABC more than neutral. NPR may even be slightly right now. And then you worry about so many being corporate media, meaning how progressive they get is more likely to be limited.

[roscoeroscoe]

30. Right, I mean correct

The morning show on MSNBC features a Republican Senator, for heaven's sake.

[leftynyc]

34. I assume you're talking about Joe Scarborough

He was never a senator. He was in the House.

[mvd]

36. Yes, and..

they also have Nicole Wallace (a reasonable Republican, but still a Republican who could change with a more conventional Repuke in office) and Matthews, where you never know what mood he will be in. Also more straight news reporting than FAUX. The only counter to the lies at all on FAUX is Shep Smith.

[musette_sf]

37. And I agree with you, especially about NPR

which has been clearly centrist-right since Bu$hCo days.

[tazkcmo]

2. Stopped watching CNN years ago.

This is typical of them.

[LenaBaby61]

4. Stopped watching CNN years ago.

Same here.

I don't even BOTHER watching them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Me three... CNN is unwatchable.

[Stallion]

5. Both CNN and MSNBC Recently Jumped on this Mexican Caravan Nonsense

I know I'm terrified--they even embedded reporters on the terrible, horrible, horrifying bus carry immigrants as they headed for our Dear Old USA.

[Butterflylady]

6. My husband and myself are MSNBC junkies

So, no we do not care for CNN.

[USALiberal]

9. Reading their front page now shows nothing like normalzing of Trump IMO. nt

[Kirk Lover]

15. It's easy for a corrupt prezident to tear down the media when you get lots of help from both

the right and the left !

[Tatiana]

10. I was listening to Cuomo on the way to work last week.

And I almost didn't recognize him. He kept saying that there was nothing to the Stormy Daniels scandal, that she had no standing, that the NDA would likely still be enforced even if Trump didn't sign it because third parties could be beneficiaries... blah blah blah.

I thought, "Are you angling to be on the Trump legal team or what?" It was disgusting. When ex-Faux Noise personality Alisyn Camerota makes more sense than Cuomo, something is wrong.

[Kirk Lover]

14. He often plays devils advocate. Often....so I'm surprised you have not seen that before.

[Tatiana]

20. I have -- many times.

But then he interjected his own opinion... he said "I don't think she has a chance..."

I thought that was weird and very strange.

[Kirk Lover]

21. He's a lawyer and was probably talking about the merits of the case. Cuomo is one of the

best interviewers out there and he is a full blown liberal.

[John Fante]

26. You desperately want CNN to be seen as the liberal equivalent of

Faux News, don't you? I'm surprised you haven't called CNN "Fake News" yet. You know you want to.

[unblock]

11. not just normalizing trump, normalizing obstruction of justice and abuse of power.

mueller's investigating donnie and his family and his associates for criminal activity.

by drawing "red lines"; by threatening to fire mueller, rosenstein, and/or session; and by threatening to shut down the investigation entirely; and even arguably by trying to taint the jury pool by claiming the investigation is not legitimate or is biased...

... donnie is abusing his powers of office to obstruct justice.


seriously, it's hard to imagine a more obvious and extreme example of these crimes than to fire the guy investigating you and shutting down the investigation entirely. even threatening to do such things, putting pressure on mueller to change the course of the investigation to something more favorable (or at least less dangerous) to donnie is already criminal abuse of power and obstruction of justice.

[Luciferous]

18. I switched to MSNBC a while back, although I do watch Don Lemon sometimes.

[Tavarious Jackson]

22. They're being threatened nt

[NanceGreggs]

23. You seem to be watching ...

... a different CNN than I do.

They were repeating what Trump himself has said about "red lines", and they had lawyer after lawyer on throughout the day reiterating that Trump cannot directly fire Mueller. Several of them read the applicable regulation that spells that out.

Of course they talked all day about whether Trump will try to fire Mueller - it's what is on every political-watchers mind. There was the comment by Trump himself on the topic, along with SHS's stating at a presser that Trump "believes he has the power to fire Mueller".

Shit like that happens, people are going to talk about it. They're reporting the news - not normalizing it.

There's a reason why Trump started his "fake news" offensive by going after CNN - they've been on his ass from the day he was sworn-in. What's unfortunate is that they failed to be this rabid before he was elected - but the gloves are definitely off these days.

I'd stopped watching CNN many years ago - but came back after the inauguration just out of curiosity as to what they were saying ... BAM! They jumped on the "biggest inauguration attendance in history" lie like stink on shit - and haven't let up since.

CNN isn't anti-Republican, anti-right, or even anti-Trump. What they're "anti-" is an incompetent, lying, mentally unstable asshole in the WH.

[Awsi Dooger]

25. CNN is fantastic

That's why Trump and Republicans fear that network but don't give two flips about MSNBC.

CNN would tear into lies and deceit and outrageous conduct by either party. It happens to be monopolized by Republicans.

Major triumph by the right wing for CNN to somehow show up on the left side of the partisan meter. That is malarkey but it demonstrates the impact of relentlessly pounding your perspective in so many huge outlets year after year. All perspective is lost. For MSNBC and Fox News to be considered equally adrift from dead center is all time absurdity. It's like the Seahawks or some other NFL team committing blatant pass interference on every play, knowing damn well they'll only be called out for it a tiny fraction of the time.

[John Fante]

28. "For MSNBC and Fox News to be considered equally adrift from dead center is all time absurdity"

Couldn't agree more. Fox is almost satirical at this point with their Trump ass-kissing.

[Cha]

27. Like they did during the GE.. and own a big fat

chunk of this fascist asshole.

[emulatorloo]

29. I dont agree with yr assessment

There is a reason Trump targets CNN and WAPO as “fake news”

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

31. Wolf Blitzer

Has led the charge to swinging right for a long time. You change a commentator, by paying him big bucks. He gets greedy about the tax bracket, and starts voting repub. Happens over and over imho.

[DrDan]

33. wow - I think you are on a different channel - I watched CNN for hours yesterday

and, yes, they covered the possibility of trump firing Rosenstein/Mueller. They also discussed, in detail, whether he could or could not do so according to current laws. Guests were brought on to provide details into each position. trump claims he does have the "right" to fire anyone he pleases, and there were several detailed discussions as to the basis for that argument.

I thought it was great coverage.

[Vinca]

35. That's the CNN I was watching, too.