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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:55 AM Apr 2018

Cohen ordered to disclose client list by Monday

Trump's longtime personal attorney went to federal court to stop prosecutors from looking at materials seized in a recent FBI raid.

By LAURA NAHMIAS and JOSH GERSTEIN 04/13/2018 09:11 AM EDT Updated 04/13/2018 06:45 PM EDT

NEW YORK — Lawyers for President Donald Trump and his longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen went to court Friday trying to stop federal prosecutors from getting at private material — but wound up with a judge ordering them to disclose Cohen’s client list in public.

U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood on Friday ordered attorneys for Cohen to hand over a list of Cohen’s law clients and proof of their relationship by 10 a.m. Monday, so she can decide whether materials seized from Cohen’s office by federal law enforcement agents last week should be protected by attorney-client privilege.

That list will be a public record, Wood said, because the identities of an attorney’s clients are not subject to attorney-client privilege unless the mere name itself would reveal the kind of advice sought or given.

Wood’s order raises the possibility of further embarrassing disclosures involving Cohen, who is already at the center of a legal dispute involving adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, who is suing the president to void a nondisclosure agreement negotiated by Cohen concerning a sexual encounter Daniels says she had with Trump in 2006.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/13/michael-cohen-hearing-fbi-raid-522053

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Cohen ordered to disclose client list by Monday (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
its not going to get easier for Cohen or trump beachbum bob Apr 2018 #1
or easier for cruise missile targets as this information trickles out... nt Gore1FL Apr 2018 #11
And any one just phoning in to further the conspiracy.... Mustellus Apr 2018 #2
How many clients used aliases? bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #3
Judges hate being lied to. It's only going to get worse for him. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #4
You're right. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #14
Well that won't take him too long Happyhippychick Apr 2018 #5
I suspect that they'll find a lot of guys called Louie the Bat and Mickey the Rat sandensea Apr 2018 #6
How the hell did you manage to throw an Italian slur in here? Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #15
That was referring solely to the mafia - as you know very well. sandensea Apr 2018 #16
But the current ones we are concerned about is Scotch -German Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #17
Mafias come in all varieties, that's for sure. sandensea Apr 2018 #18
No. Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #20
Un po', ma non troppo. sandensea Apr 2018 #22
SCOTS! Scotch is a plaid and a drink. Calling Scots Scotch is a slur. Pathwalker Apr 2018 #23
Fucking nonsense, but nice try Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #24
Nope. You are wrong. Go tell a Scotsman he's scotch, Pathwalker Apr 2018 #25
When the largest lynching in America Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #27
Sorry, but I feel you jumped the shark on this one. Blue_true Apr 2018 #29
The response was edited. I jumped nothing Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #30
I stand by what I posted. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #34
Well then, do tell, EXACTLY what Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #35
Neither the first poster that you went off on nor I used the term that you just used. Blue_true Apr 2018 #37
The edit says...(and I quote) Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #39
Looks like Cohen was the fixer for the RNC. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #7
This is huge. SHRED Apr 2018 #8
Gonna need more... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #9
Watch the butter and salt levels. Blue_true Apr 2018 #31
Wouldn't it be great that Devin Nunes was a client itsrobert Apr 2018 #10
That would be sweet! IluvPitties Apr 2018 #12
Or Ryan QED Apr 2018 #13
He'll put Mother Teresa at the top of the list dalton99a Apr 2018 #19
Oh, how times have changed. Remember when Kimba Wood was nominated to be Attorney General Vinca Apr 2018 #21
Monday? Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #26
And how many conflicts? C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #28
Cohen's crimes on behalf of the buffoon will bring the buffoon down splunge63 Apr 2018 #32
Welcome to du uppityperson Apr 2018 #33
Welcome! Kinda like tax fraud and Capone. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #36
First post! Welcome! Glad you are here. Squinch Apr 2018 #38
The beauty of this is that radical noodle Apr 2018 #42
welcome to DU gopiscrap Apr 2018 #44
I wonder if he has any other clients. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #41
Apparently not in any real sense radical noodle Apr 2018 #43
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. its not going to get easier for Cohen or trump
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:05 AM
Apr 2018

trump can't use "executive privileged" as he was not sworn as president for almost all the cohen/stormy stuff Cohen can't claim "attorney/client privileged" if Cohen was part of committing a crime.


payoffs, bribes, shakedowns, threats can all be criminal matters. Cohen needs a better lawyer than what he was to trump ASAP

bucolic_frolic

(43,287 posts)
3. How many clients used aliases?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:24 AM
Apr 2018

Anonymous one-stop lawyering ... John Doe

NDA's silence people outside the purview of courts

This is what's running the world

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
14. You're right.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:49 AM
Apr 2018

Judges really do hate being lied to, and the "things getting worse" part could take the form of rulings on admissibility or procedure that were close calls going against himthem. Good judges are impartial, but they are also human.

sandensea

(21,664 posts)
6. I suspect that they'll find a lot of guys called Louie the Bat and Mickey the Rat
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:04 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
15. How the hell did you manage to throw an Italian slur in here?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:59 AM
Apr 2018

The Italian mafia stereotypes that get thrown around here are ridiculous.

Were the Playboy models in the mafia? Cohen is a Jewish surname last I checked.

What you just did is disgusting and a stereotype. This has nothing to do with the mafia yet you make fun of the way Italians in New Jersey talk.

sandensea

(21,664 posts)
16. That was referring solely to the mafia - as you know very well.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:06 PM
Apr 2018

Many of Cohen's past clients are rumored to be mafiosi. Most Italian-Americans - including yours truly - detest them as a living slur against anyone of Italian descent.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
17. But the current ones we are concerned about is Scotch -German
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:11 PM
Apr 2018

So tell me again why we need to throw around mafia reference

sandensea

(21,664 posts)
18. Mafias come in all varieties, that's for sure.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:17 PM
Apr 2018

Cohen is rumored to have cosa nostra figures among his past clientele - including some that did business with Cheeto.

It'll be interesting to see what other connections the raid produces, besides the ones currently in the news.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
20. No.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:36 PM
Apr 2018

Mafia is Sciciliano, Ndrangheta is Calabrese, and Camorra is Napolitano.

If you have ever been in Southern Italy you would realize what this really is, and mean live there for awhile.

You don't even speak the language do you?

sandensea

(21,664 posts)
22. Un po', ma non troppo.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:51 PM
Apr 2018

Several of my great-great grandparents were from Piemonte. I'm not as familiar with the Mezzogiorno region as you are, unfortunately.

That said, rumors that Cohen - and above all, Cheeto - have had extensive dealings with the Cosa Nostra are fairly well known. It would be great if, besides uncovering campaign finance violations, money laundering, and Russia-connected wrongdoing, these Cohen raids also unearth some of that.

They say the dead tell no tales; I bet the same can't be said of these Cohen files.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
23. SCOTS! Scotch is a plaid and a drink. Calling Scots Scotch is a slur.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:20 PM
Apr 2018

So, it's okay to slur the Scots???

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
24. Fucking nonsense, but nice try
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:20 PM
Apr 2018

Not taking your bait

And on edit

Why do you feel compelled to make a mispelling on par with a stereotype slur, and try to dismiss it with pedantic bullshit?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
27. When the largest lynching in America
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:30 PM
Apr 2018

Is against Scott's, I'll entertain your bullshit.

For the record, it was Scicilians and Teddy Roosevelt called it "a good thing"

The amount of stereotypes thrown at Italian Americans on DU is fucking ridiculous. To the point when Scaramucci was appointed a well known DUer made a post about appointing "goombas" a slang for Compari Southern Italian slang for friend and now a mafia slur.

So just stop with the stupid Scotch bullshit.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Sorry, but I feel you jumped the shark on this one.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:47 PM
Apr 2018

Colorful names have nothing to do with a person's ethnic heritage. The names have more to do with the character of the person, especially criminal types or liars. My dad was a hard working man, but I remember as a kid, him recounting some of the colorful names that he had heard given to thugs, and I am southern born and have stopped in New Jersey only to change airplane seats.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Neither the first poster that you went off on nor I used the term that you just used.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:15 PM
Apr 2018

You have really spun this thing up into an ethnic issue that it never was.

As a boy I heard term like Jack the Rat, Jake the Snake, Brat the SlickCat, all were terms used to describe seedy characters. I grew up nowhere near New Jersey.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
40. The edit says...(and I quote)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:45 PM
Apr 2018

The wiretaps contains plenty a 'Fuhgeddaboutit


You are wrong. It's a nasty jab at Italian Americans and a bunch of bullshit

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #35)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Watch the butter and salt levels.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:49 PM
Apr 2018

Have a feeling you will be eating a lot of that over the next few months.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
10. Wouldn't it be great that Devin Nunes was a client
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:16 AM
Apr 2018

Possibly using Cohen to payoff a woman or man he had sex with.

QED

(2,749 posts)
13. Or Ryan
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:45 AM
Apr 2018

I've often wondered if Trump doesn't have something on him. Can Ryan really be that squeaky clean? Did he get Russian money? Does he have a lady problem too?

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
21. Oh, how times have changed. Remember when Kimba Wood was nominated to be Attorney General
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:41 PM
Apr 2018

and she was found to have "nanny" problems? Those were the days.

splunge63

(102 posts)
32. Cohen's crimes on behalf of the buffoon will bring the buffoon down
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:55 PM
Apr 2018

much sooner than Russian collusion investigation will. Just to be clear, am not suggesting (in any way) that collusion and obstruction didn't occur (they clearly did) or that they're lesser crimes (they aren't). And, yes, am well aware that some of Cohen's crimes are collusion related. Mueller (and the SDNY AG and NY AG) have Cohen in a trick box. Which means they have the buffoon too. Delicious!

BTW, my first post on DU. Great info here and looking forward to adding to the conversation.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
42. The beauty of this is that
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:49 AM
Apr 2018

even if trump fires Mueller in some fashion the SDNY has the goods.

Welcome to DU!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
41. I wonder if he has any other clients.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 10:25 PM
Apr 2018

When would he have time? Unless he claims some are clients because he handled a matter between Trump and others.

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