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Is there anyone who actually thinks last night's missile strikes were not solely a distraction (Original Post) Snake Plissken Apr 2018 OP
I do not think last nights strikes were to change the headlines. Every single thing that Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #1
The POS's reputation precedes 'im... asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #7
So what exactly was the point of it? Snake Plissken Apr 2018 #8
1) distraction 2) bolster Trump's military cred SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #14
It was just for show. Ya know the chem weapons crosses his red lines Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #17
Well if it was a distraction, it didn't work very well. Did it?! democratisphere Apr 2018 #2
Thank you...and neither have the 50 million other ones that have been designated as a Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #19
It is all about being a war time President. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #3
.......the boogie man. democratisphere Apr 2018 #4
True. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #22
My question is, under what authority did he do this? Obama wasn't allowed to do it so why is trump? shraby Apr 2018 #5
Obama had the full power to attack just as Trump did. former9thward Apr 2018 #21
Do not forget that Syria also agreed to turn over all the chemical weapons they had... krispos42 Apr 2018 #24
Police Chief to thief...... democrank Apr 2018 #6
Bazinga!!!!!! asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Hoyt Apr 2018 #10
I'm sure that was a factor, but not most important one. Now, if Britain/France were not involved . . Hoyt Apr 2018 #11
If he trained us right - we will forget about wargasms just like everything else Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #12
I'm meh about it DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #13
Seems like we should expect the investigations to continue unabated. triron Apr 2018 #15
Lots of people. Including me. Captain Stern Apr 2018 #16
*raises hand* Cal Carpenter Apr 2018 #18
A better question BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #20
Why did France and the UK play along? brooklynite Apr 2018 #23
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
1. I do not think last nights strikes were to change the headlines. Every single thing that
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:52 PM
Apr 2018

happens is blamed on this. So at this point when there really is a distraction being thrown out...who can tell since every single event is being classified as such.

Next I'll hear how RUMP engineered the next mass shooting to take headlines away.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
7. The POS's reputation precedes 'im...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

Mission Accomplished indeed..especially Homs..which was already in rubble...all in all - the Pentagon wins.....the only adults in the room.....

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
14. 1) distraction 2) bolster Trump's military cred
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:15 PM
Apr 2018

All we did was blow up a few metal buildings that the Syrians had labeled "Chemical Research Facilities." We did not seriously damage the regime's ability to continue killing its own people. Putin may have signed off on this before Trump did it.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
17. It was just for show. Ya know the chem weapons crosses his red lines
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:51 PM
Apr 2018

and he's not going to be like Obama blah blah blah. So really there was no point.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
19. Thank you...and neither have the 50 million other ones that have been designated as a
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:52 PM
Apr 2018

"distraction"....so sick of that word.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. It is all about being a war time President.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:55 PM
Apr 2018

And the necessity of supporting the leader of the free world in this existential fight against the unspeakable horror that is.................................(fill in the blank with the enemy du jour).

former9thward

(32,080 posts)
21. Obama had the full power to attack just as Trump did.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

Obama reportedly declined to enforce red line in Syria after Iran threatened to back out of nuclear deal

"When the president announced his plans to attack [the Assad regime] and then pulled back, it was exactly the period in time when American negotiators were meeting with Iranian negotiators secretly in Oman to get the nuclear agreement," Solomon said.

"US and Iranian officials have both told me that they were basically communicating that if the US starts hitting President Assad's forces, Iran's closest Arab ally ... these talks cannot conclude."

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a powerful military arm in Iran, reportedly "would not accept a continued engagement with the US if its closest ally was being hit," Solomon said.


http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-red-line-syria-iran-2016-8

Trump does not like the Iran deal so that matter did not affect his decision.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
24. Do not forget that Syria also agreed to turn over all the chemical weapons they had...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:21 PM
Apr 2018

...it was a rather surprising event. SoS John Kerry said "well, if Assad gives up his weapons immediately we won't have to attack", and Assad did so.

...
Following the August 21, 2013, chemical weapons attack on the Ghouta suburbs of Damascus attributed to Syrian government forces, Kerry became a leading advocate for the use of military force against the Syrian government for what he called "a despot's brutal and flagrant use of chemical weapons."[163]

Kerry said on September 9 in response to a reporter's question about whether Syrian President Bashar al-Assad could avert a military strike: "He could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week. Turn it over, all of it, without delay, and allow a full and total accounting for that. But he isn't about to do it, and it can't be done, obviously." This unscripted remark initiated a process that would lead to Syria agreeing to relinquish and destroy its chemical weapons arsenal, as Russia treated Kerry's statement as a serious proposal. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Russia would work "immediately" to convince Syria relinquish and destroy its large chemical weapons arsenal.[164][165][166][167] Syria quickly welcomed this proposal and on September 14, the UN formally accepted Syria's application to join the convention banning chemical weapons, and separately, the U.S. and Russia agreed on a plan to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons by the middle of 2014, leading Kerry to declare on July 20, 2014: "we struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out."[168] On September 28, the UN Security Council passed a resolution ordering the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons and condemning the August 21 Ghouta attack.[169]

...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry#Syria


Obviously either they didn't get everything or more weapons were made.

democrank

(11,104 posts)
6. Police Chief to thief......
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:02 PM
Apr 2018

In a few days we're going to come to your house and see if you still have those stolen paintings you had in your van last week.

Response to Snake Plissken (Original post)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. I'm sure that was a factor, but not most important one. Now, if Britain/France were not involved . .
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:07 PM
Apr 2018
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. If he trained us right - we will forget about wargasms just like everything else
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:10 PM
Apr 2018

he throws at us. Cohen deal way too big to go away - even with bombing - and who knows how many innocents died. If we only had a lot of surrogates - would blast it out there that with Cohen in Prague - what HAVE they got now to discredit the dossier?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
13. I'm meh about it
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:12 PM
Apr 2018

Unless Trump will be bombing someone every day we will eventually return to discussing his perfidy and nefarious behavior.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
16. Lots of people. Including me.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

France and the UK also launched missiles at Syria to change the headlines in our country?

That's laughable.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
18. *raises hand*
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:51 PM
Apr 2018

Not at all. Those strikes are part and parcel of U.S. foreign policy in particular and the western neoliberal project in the middle east generally.

These strikes have little to do with one country (eg the U.S.) let alone one president or even one party.

Was the particular timing chosen as a distraction? Possibly, although I don't think Trump is sharp enough to even make that happen despite his bull-in-a-china-shop style.

BannonsLiver

(16,448 posts)
20. A better question
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 01:53 PM
Apr 2018

Is there anything Cheetolini and his admin says or does that is credible? Something you can take their word on and feel good about it?

Resounding NOs in both situation.

This admin has no credibility. If they say it’s Saturday assume they are lying and verify yourself.

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