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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:21 PM Apr 2018

Comey-Trump feud takes a vicious turn

Former FBI Director James Comey's public feud with President Trump is growing strikingly personal.

In a tell-all book set for release on Tuesday, Comey writes that Trump wanted him to disprove allegations he had a salacious encounter with prostitutes in Moscow, in an effort to reassure his wife, Melania Trump.

Comey also writes dismissively of Trump's appearance, recalling white bags under his eyes, contrasting with orange skin, that he surmised came from wearing goggles during tanning sessions.

The vindictive tone of Comey's observations stunned Washington, raising concerns even among those who know and respect the former FBI director.

"I'm troubled by it," said Ron Hosko, a former FBI official who worked under Comey. "It seems very, very personal, vengeful ... even if true."

The new book has reignited the feud between Comey and Trump that has raged for more than a year, since Comey first confirmed the existence of the investigation into Russian interference in the election and whether there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Moscow.

Trump has gone on offense, labeling Comey an "untruthful slimeball" and a "leaker" deserving of prosecution.
Republicans, meanwhile, are mounting an all-out campaign against the former FBI director, attacking his credibility.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/comey-trump-feud-takes-a-vicious-turn/ar-AAvSgZr?li=BBnb7Kz

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Comey-Trump feud takes a vicious turn (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 OP
Comey is just another powerful white dude who felt entitled to use his power to put a thumb on the bettyellen Apr 2018 #1
Nah Loki Liesmith Apr 2018 #2
+1 OnDoutside Apr 2018 #7
I think Trump made it "personal" when he fired Comey in such a public manner and then suggested that politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #75
I waver between feelings like yours and thinking better of him. I dont wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #11
I'm with you. bitterross Apr 2018 #47
Yes me too. He did stand up to Gonzales and Miers during Bush term Pepsidog Apr 2018 #49
Comey is an asshole, no doubt, but he did us a solid gettin Mueller appointed as Special Counsel. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #54
And he did say this - out loud - to a bunch of white people - a lot of whom got really pissed off EffieBlack Apr 2018 #61
That's for sure! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #63
Interesting, as his FBI years were marred by many complaints of racism against Muslim agents- as bettyellen Apr 2018 #80
I wouldn't call it "his" FBI. This is a systemic problem that has existed in the bureau for decades EffieBlack Apr 2018 #84
Correct the 13th Amendment.... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #87
My thoughts exactly. He may be useful now, but that's no reason to overlook lunamagica Apr 2018 #14
Hes literally admitted to putting his thumb on the scale against her. The press is finally bettyellen Apr 2018 #23
Comey was in large part pushed into it by Giuliani's rogue NYC FBI cabal who were going to do it. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #35
Ding! bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #40
Covering His Ass Because Hillary Was Gonna Win PaulX2 Apr 2018 #45
Whoa. janx Apr 2018 #42
So he caved and legitimized what they were doing- and its not laudable. Hes a mixed bag and bettyellen Apr 2018 #46
I am still surprised bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #51
I agree. There's no way this should have swung as many votes as it did - and I don't think anyone EffieBlack Apr 2018 #64
Me too. I'll never forget how RandomAccess Apr 2018 #72
No. But he is a mixed bag. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #55
That's my take. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #65
The minute he tried to calculate how much harm he would do her, he knew he was violating that law bettyellen Apr 2018 #74
Wrong! Comey's a white dude who felt entitled to be insubordinate to his black, female boss, TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #78
That too! Was just pointing out he has a LOT of company -including many of the media. bettyellen Apr 2018 #79
I think Comey has a right to say whatever he wants about drumpf. democratisphere Apr 2018 #3
Well said. I support all criticism of Trump, no matter who is saying it. Doodley Apr 2018 #22
Same here. I say keep piling it on because eventually he is going to break. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #86
Im glad Comey did that lunatica Apr 2018 #4
They are called adjectives, used to describe which no doubt the editor and publisher want in Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #16
Considering what Trump did to him lunatica Apr 2018 #19
I know, right? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #66
Comey and Avenatti are both smart lawyers FakeNoose Apr 2018 #28
Remember that show "Living Color"? flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #44
"even if true" 😂 OnDoutside Apr 2018 #5
With all the shit trump makes up about Comey, what Comey says is mild. wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #6
Looking forward to reading the book. janx Apr 2018 #8
Comey finally responded to the Con the way he insults others malaise Apr 2018 #9
Doesn't Trump call that "punching back"? Marie Marie Apr 2018 #26
Precisely and the fugging media have allowed the Con to violate and insult any and everyone malaise Apr 2018 #32
Exactly! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #67
Yep "counter puncher" from the macho, boxing term for fighting back, appalachiablue Apr 2018 #39
Vindictive tone or descriptive writing. Give me a fucking break. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #10
Good detail-- janx Apr 2018 #12
You damn skippy...he was head of the FBI and a prosecutor...right? Oh yeah he has Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #15
. . . janx Apr 2018 #18
Tanning sessions for Dirty Donny*? We're** paying for that fugly FAKE tan? Achilleaze Apr 2018 #13
To be such a racist, he sure spend a lot of time trying not to look naturally as white people do. Civic Justice Apr 2018 #30
I've noticed that, too! Where's his (pale) white pride?! Self-loathing? deurbano Apr 2018 #59
Gak! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #31
I honestly think this is "tan in a bottle." That crap is where the orange tint comes from. Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #37
Or you can go to a spray on tanning salon... Little Star Apr 2018 #57
Yeah, same deal. Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #73
I can't take anyone who complains about being mean to fucking trump too seriously JI7 Apr 2018 #17
+1. obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2018 #20
Good for Comey... CatMor Apr 2018 #21
These are exceptionally disingenuous complaints Mr. Ected Apr 2018 #24
I will never forgive Comey for his attack on Hillary. TNNurse Apr 2018 #25
2016 was Comey's election, from start to finish. He destroyed HRC's reputation and her campaign. StevieM Apr 2018 #43
Trump does not care 1% about what Melania thinks. colorado_ufo Apr 2018 #27
That's certainly what it seemed like to me janx Apr 2018 #29
Not about what she thinks or feels, but likely about what she can get. Caliman73 Apr 2018 #77
Interesting information, and completely plausible. colorado_ufo Apr 2018 #83
Is Donald a truthful slimeball when he brags about his adultery? keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #33
Anyone with the cajones to give Trump a taste of his own medicine procon Apr 2018 #34
Moreover, "taste of his own medicine" is what WORKS with the GOP base sharedvalues Apr 2018 #52
Actually, there is always room for a Trump bash. I don't care where it comes from. dameatball Apr 2018 #36
It IS personal. spanone Apr 2018 #38
If You Fired Me For Investigating Your Criminal Ass I Would Take It Personally PaulX2 Apr 2018 #41
Comey should have quoted our own great Ferret Danascot Apr 2018 #48
Anyone who criticizes Comey doesn't understand how to beat bullies sharedvalues Apr 2018 #50
Fuck that characterization. Everyone should unload with both barrels blake2012 Apr 2018 #53
I am not a huge fan of Comey but: I would believe him over Trumpleshitscreen any day. appleannie1943 Apr 2018 #56
I think he thought videohead5 Apr 2018 #58
Say it Comey , get it out. Good description of that clown face imo lunasun Apr 2018 #60
Comey is only giving as good as he got. Vinca Apr 2018 #62
He really insults the color Orange... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #90
This is the same false equivalency that Hillary faced. Comey makes a couple of... LAS14 Apr 2018 #68
So what? They'll outrage only about the 35% of us who support cheetolini. No surprises.... marble falls Apr 2018 #69
Oh.....pearl clutching...... paleotn Apr 2018 #70
Wait a minute. janx Apr 2018 #71
James Comey is one brave patriot American underthematrix Apr 2018 #76
Hes the asshole who helped get the Shitgibbon elected Codeine Apr 2018 #89
we can't forget the OUTDATED "Electoral College" !!! Civic Justice Apr 2018 #92
Yes I tweeted about this several times on election day and the day after. underthematrix Apr 2018 #93
Comey just gave Trump a little of his own medicine. LuckyCharms Apr 2018 #81
Kick yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2018 #82
I always thought shitgibbon's eyes looked raccoonish. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2018 #85
Heavens to Betsy, what an awful thing frogmarch Apr 2018 #88
the truth must be told... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #91
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. Comey is just another powerful white dude who felt entitled to use his power to put a thumb on the
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:27 PM
Apr 2018

Scale against Hillary. He’s one of many- including most of the press, that would benefit from some truth and reconciliation hearings. We’re supposed to trust them as being impartial, to do their jobs fairly. They’re all still making excuses why it was okay to deliberately fuck over HRC.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
75. I think Trump made it "personal" when he fired Comey in such a public manner and then suggested that
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:56 PM
Apr 2018

he should not have been allowed to return to Washington on the plane that took him to L.A. which was waiting at the airport for him, insinuating that he should've gotten home the best way he could. Imagine yourself being terminated in such a public fashion and having to learn about in on TV with millions of other people after a lifetime of service to your country.

Also, what many people may not realize is that when you are terminated as a federal employee, one of the first things they do is cancel your government credit card. Imagine been out of town on official business for your job and being fired and then having to worry about how you're going to get home. It shouldn't happen to anyone, even someone you don't like.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
47. I'm with you.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:25 PM
Apr 2018

Some days I can't stand him for the things he did to derail Hillary. Other days I'm glad he's around.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
49. Yes me too. He did stand up to Gonzales and Miers during Bush term
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:37 PM
Apr 2018

when they tried to get Ashcroft to sign an order but then I think about the HRC election and get pissed all over again. Bottom line is shouldn’t have taken blatantly cheap shots at Trump, it diminishes his story and give ammunition to Dotard.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
54. Comey is an asshole, no doubt, but he did us a solid gettin Mueller appointed as Special Counsel.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:52 PM
Apr 2018

At least we now have impeachment of BLOTUS to look forward to thanks to him... small consolation I know.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
61. And he did say this - out loud - to a bunch of white people - a lot of whom got really pissed off
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:16 PM
Apr 2018
Hard Truths: Law Enforcement and Race
https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/hard-truths-law-enforcement-and-race

With the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, the death of Eric Garner in Staten Island, the ongoing protests throughout the country, and the assassinations of NYPD Officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos, we are at a crossroads. As a society, we can choose to live our everyday lives, raising our families and going to work, hoping that someone, somewhere, will do something to ease the tension—to smooth over the conflict. We can roll up our car windows, turn up the radio and drive around these problems, or we can choose to have an open and honest discussion about what our relationship is today—what it should be, what it could be, and what it needs to be—if we took more time to better.
...
There is a reason that I require all new agents and analysts to study the FBI’s interaction with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and to visit his memorial in Washington as part of their training. And there is a reason I keep on my desk a copy of Attorney General Robert Kennedy’s approval of J. Edgar Hoover’s request to wiretap Dr. King. It is a single page. The entire application is five sentences long, it is without fact or substance, and is predicated on the naked assertion that there is “communist influence in the racial situation.” The reason I do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them.

One reason we cannot forget our law enforcement legacy is that the people we serve and protect cannot forget it, either. So we must talk about our history. It is a hard truth that lives on.

A second hard truth: Much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. Many people in our white-majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. In fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us.
...
But if we can’t help our latent biases, we can help our behavior in response to those instinctive reactions, which is why we work to design systems and processes that overcome that very human part of us all. Although the research may be unsettling, it is what we do next that matters most.
...
The truth is that what really needs fixing is something only a few, like President Obama, are willing to speak about, perhaps because it is so daunting a task. Through the “My Brother’s Keeper” initiative, the President is addressing the disproportionate challenges faced by young men of color. For instance, data shows that the percentage of young men not working or not enrolled in school is nearly twice as high for blacks as it is for whites. This initiative, and others like it, is about doing the hard work to grow drug-resistant and violence-resistant kids, especially in communities of color, so they never become part of that officer’s life experience.

So many young men of color become part of that officer’s life experience because so many minority families and communities are struggling, so many boys and young men grow up in environments lacking role models, adequate education, and decent employment—they lack all sorts of opportunities that most of us take for granted. A tragedy of American life—one that most citizens are able to drive around because it doesn’t touch them—is that young people in “those neighborhoods” too often inherit a legacy of crime and prison. And with that inheritance, they become part of a police officer’s life, and shape the way that officer—whether white or black—sees the world. Changing that legacy is a challenge so enormous and so complicated that it is, unfortunately, easier to talk only about the cops. And that’s not fair.
...
Not long after riots broke out in Ferguson late last summer, I asked my staff to tell me how many people shot by police were African-American in this country. I wanted to see trends. I wanted to see information. They couldn’t give it to me, and it wasn’t their fault. Demographic data regarding officer-involved shootings is not consistently reported to us through our Uniform Crime Reporting Program. Because reporting is voluntary, our data is incomplete and therefore, in the aggregate, unreliable.

I recently listened to a thoughtful big city police chief express his frustration with that lack of reliable data. He said he didn’t know whether the Ferguson police shot one person a week, one a year, or one a century, and that in the absence of good data, “all we get are ideological thunderbolts, when what we need are ideological agnostics who use information to try to solve problems.” He’s right.

The first step to understanding what is really going on in our communities and in our country is to gather more and better data related to those we arrest, those we confront for breaking the law and jeopardizing public safety, and those who confront us. “Data” seems a dry and boring word but, without it, we cannot understand our world and make it better.

How can we address concerns about “use of force,” how can we address concerns about officer-involved shootings if we do not have a reliable grasp on the demographics and circumstances of those incidents? We simply must improve the way we collect and analyze data to see the true nature of what’s happening in all of our communities.


He's complicated.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
80. Interesting, as his FBI years were marred by many complaints of racism against Muslim agents- as
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:43 AM
Apr 2018

well as civilians.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
84. I wouldn't call it "his" FBI. This is a systemic problem that has existed in the bureau for decades
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:00 AM
Apr 2018

And, to his credit, Comey called it out and was trying to change the processes and culture, which is extraordinarily difficult to do. This was huge.

As I said, Corey's not perfect but I don't think he's evil, either. And I don't think someone who is as willing to look at issues in such a thoughtful way and speak about them in the face of a tremendous pushback is a political ideologue who purposely tried to get Trump elected.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
87. Correct the 13th Amendment....
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:00 PM
Apr 2018
Police - Violence Upon Black People - It has a long history ....
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1186576


13th Amendment:
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

THIS PART NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED >
(except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted)
Let's stand as Democrats and Get it REMOVED.

13th Amendment should read as follows:
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1105732
Let's Start by Fixing the 13th Amendment


Many people in this website seem not to like reading anything more than 140 characters and many simply won't write more than 140 characters... sadly, this post and the post it responds to likely won't be read.... but ... I'm responding for the few who might want to read.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
14. My thoughts exactly. He may be useful now, but that's no reason to overlook
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

diminish, or resort to absurd reasons to excuse what he did.

He has it for the Clintons since the Whitewater days, and he finally got Hillary. It didn't matter to him that in the process he was interfering with an election and destroying the nation.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. Hes literally admitted to putting his thumb on the scale against her. The press is finally
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:13 PM
Apr 2018

Admitting they spent no time vetting Trump or Sanders because they made the same assumption. Whether Id was causing her loss or manipulating public option to damage her presidency - they’re not supposed to function w intent and partiality as they did. Never again!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
46. So he caved and legitimized what they were doing- and its not laudable. Hes a mixed bag and
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

At some point decided to be partisan against Hillary right before the election.

bucolic_frolic

(43,287 posts)
51. I am still surprised
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:49 PM
Apr 2018

at the volatility and magnitude of the move in public opinion from the release of his letter. No way predictable by Comey or pollsters, and Comey didn't release the letter, it was released by a GOP Congressman. People were either very soft in their convictions from all the doubts and mind manipulation sewn by Russian mind control in social media, or the polls were wrong all along, or there was actual hacking and cheating at the polls themselves, or some combination. The election was lost in a handful of very close counties, targeted by the Trump campaign perhaps. I did wonder why he was spending so much time in rural Pennsylvania. You wouldn't go to these places for vacation, you'd only go to visit your relatives, and not too often. What did he know that Democrats didn't? He knew he could find votes in places Democrats took for granted; we ran a big city focus.

Yet it can also be said that many cynical Democrats that I know told me in March that Trump would win. We worked hard and had no traction.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
64. I agree. There's no way this should have swung as many votes as it did - and I don't think anyone
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:21 PM
Apr 2018

could have predicted it would to the degree that it did.

I DO think, among other things, it gave some shaky so-called Democrats - on the right AND the left, who were looking for an excuse not to vote for Hillary, a reason to walk away from her. But they probably weren't going to vote for her anyway.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
72. Me too. I'll never forget how
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 08:05 PM
Apr 2018

clearly and completely I felt the wind go out of those sails. It was palpable. She was done. Of course I didn't believe that at the time, but that's because I was sloughing off what I was picking up "in the ethers."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,040 posts)
55. No. But he is a mixed bag.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:52 PM
Apr 2018

As far as I can tell, he did NOT decide to be partisan. His motivation seems to be protecting the reputation of the FBI, but I think he made a grave mistake and made a mess of it all.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
74. The minute he tried to calculate how much harm he would do her, he knew he was violating that law
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 11:39 PM
Apr 2018

But figured he would get away with it. Same calculations all the media did. But the weight of so many hundreds of thumbs on the scale at once, incalculable. But he was the biggest thumb on the scale.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
78. Wrong! Comey's a white dude who felt entitled to be insubordinate to his black, female boss,
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:30 AM
Apr 2018

AG Loretta Lynch! She ordered him not to make that announcement 2 week before the election but his Lurch-@$$ did it anyway because Comey has issues with taking orders from women...

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
3. I think Comey has a right to say whatever he wants about drumpf.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:30 PM
Apr 2018

drumpf ALWAYS has the microphone and now it's time for Comey to have his turn, specially after what drumpf has said and done to Comey!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
86. Same here. I say keep piling it on because eventually he is going to break.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:24 AM
Apr 2018

I don't care who is flinging the shit at him at this point, as long as it keeps coming.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Im glad Comey did that
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:30 PM
Apr 2018

It seems to have hit the bullseye like nothing else has.

And that description of Trump is now set in stone in history.

Popcorn anyone?

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
16. They are called adjectives, used to describe which no doubt the editor and publisher want in
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

there. Also, Comey was pretty nice in his description of this trashbag...what exactly was so mean and lowering of himself. Lastly...who gives a fuck...someone needs to hit RUMP back. #Basta

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Considering what Trump did to him
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:02 PM
Apr 2018

I don’t see why he isn’t expected to react. It’s amazing how many people are shocked by what Comey wrote, but who don’t even bother to take into consideration what Trump did to him. Even here.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
66. I know, right?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:22 PM
Apr 2018

It's really annoying to see people insist that Comey's not being "polite" to Trump - after what Trump did to and says about him, Comey has every right to fight back.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
28. Comey and Avenatti are both smart lawyers
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

They are both showing that they know how to beat Cheeto at his own game.
I have no problem with this, and I hope Mueller's guys are paying attention too.
You can bet that Comey and Mueller have each other's private cellphone numbers.



janx

(24,128 posts)
8. Looking forward to reading the book.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

The excerpts I have seen so far didn't seem that horrible. The description of Trump's eyes was very well done and it didn't strike me as being there only for malicious purposes.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
9. Comey finally responded to the Con the way he insults others
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

but he merely told the truth about that ugly skeevy scumbag who appears to have missed the irony of using the word leakers when he has been accused of having prostitutes piss on each other for his pleasure.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
32. Precisely and the fugging media have allowed the Con to violate and insult any and everyone
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:46 PM
Apr 2018

and now they're shocked that Comey responds in kind. Good for him. He knows what rankles the scumbag.

appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
39. Yep "counter puncher" from the macho, boxing term for fighting back,
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:03 PM
Apr 2018

going on the Offense (instead of Defense) when you've been punched first.

Supposedly the technique was learned from his lawyer of many years, ruthless NY lawyer Roy Cohn who had worked for Sen. Joe McCarthy during the infamous anti-communist, Red Scare (& anti homosexual) 'witch hunt' trials of the late 1940s. At the end, Trump dropped Cohn when he was dying of AIDS in the late 1980s. No real friends in that world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4914523692001/?#sp=show-clips

janx

(24,128 posts)
12. Good detail--
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:39 PM
Apr 2018
“His face appeared slightly orange,” Comey writes, “with bright white half-moons under his eyes where I assumed he placed small tanning goggles, and impressively coifed, bright blond hair, which upon close inspection looked to be all his.”


Descriptive!
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
15. You damn skippy...he was head of the FBI and a prosecutor...right? Oh yeah he has
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

an eye for detail but he described trashbag just as we all would I think....actually Comey was a lot nicer than I would be.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
13. Tanning sessions for Dirty Donny*? We're** paying for that fugly FAKE tan?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 02:40 PM
Apr 2018

Deplorable.


* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
** America's honorable & hard-working taxpayers

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
30. To be such a racist, he sure spend a lot of time trying not to look naturally as white people do.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:45 PM
Apr 2018

He has "dead eyes" !!! too...

Silver Gaia

(4,546 posts)
37. I honestly think this is "tan in a bottle." That crap is where the orange tint comes from.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018

A tan from a tanning bed looks more natural because it is still using light to affect melanin in the skin, whereas the stuff in a bottle mostly just stains or otherwise colors the skin (and often does it with carotene, from carrots, hence the orange tint). With either one, you'd have the white eye circles. You can't apply a bottle tan product (usually called a bronzer or self-tanner) around the eyes and goggles are worn in a tanning bed. He probably does both, but the orange tint comes from a bottle. IMHO.

Silver Gaia

(4,546 posts)
73. Yeah, same deal.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018

A canned tan, not laying in a tanning booth with goggles on. I'm sure he pays someone to spray him. (Ew yuck)

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
21. Good for Comey...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:03 PM
Apr 2018

It's about time someone strikes back at trump. Trump has been viciously attacking many people, including Comey, for a long time. This article is written by someone on the conservative side.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
24. These are exceptionally disingenuous complaints
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:19 PM
Apr 2018

Trump reduces everything to personal attacks. Although technically these could be considered personal jabs against Trump, they are so mild and so inconsequential that it seems the people raising the issue are attempting to obfuscate the big picture.

In other words, doing Trunp's work for him.

You can keep on hating Comey, I get it. But it's a stretch to condemn him for these innocuous knocks on the most loathesome man on the planet.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
25. I will never forgive Comey for his attack on Hillary.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:33 PM
Apr 2018

I will never judge him for anything he does to hurt Trump. Trump is a petty little person and he deserves the same from others.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
43. 2016 was Comey's election, from start to finish. He destroyed HRC's reputation and her campaign.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:16 PM
Apr 2018

It frightens me to hear Democrats praise him.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
27. Trump does not care 1% about what Melania thinks.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:37 PM
Apr 2018

Trump just said this to give a veneer, and a thin one at that, of cover to the fact that he wanted Comey to find proof of any kind that this did not exist, so that when this eventually came to public light, Trump could claim that it had been disproven by the FBI.

janx

(24,128 posts)
29. That's certainly what it seemed like to me
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:42 PM
Apr 2018

when I read the excerpt. It's definitely implied. And how ironic, with all of the other information we now have about his revolting trysts.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
77. Not about what she thinks or feels, but likely about what she can get.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:18 AM
Apr 2018

One theory I have heard regarding the desire to expunge any idea of Trump's infidelities comes from people with knowledge of his pre-nuptial agreements with Marla Maples. Apparently there was a stipulation that they were to be monogamous for at least the first four years or there would be a financial penalty. In the case of Maples, she had an affair with her bodyguard and lost a substantial part of the settlement when they divorced.

I would imagine that Trump, being a creature of habit, would have inserted a provision into his am Melania's agreement with similar stipulations and that confirmation of his infidelity would create a financial situation for him.

He doesn't care one bit about her feelings but he cares about having to fork over money because he couldn't keep it in his pants.

procon

(15,805 posts)
34. Anyone with the cajones to give Trump a taste of his own medicine
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:48 PM
Apr 2018

deserves an award. Trump has bashed people from all over the world, the high and low, the powerful and the powerless. He delights in bullying people, especially when they're down, or have no ability to fight back against the massive resources that Trump can call upon to ruin their lives and jeopardize their future.

Let Comey extract his pound of flesh and just enjoy the show. Trump's raging tantrums only serve to reinforce what's obvious to almost everyone; that he is totally unsuited for the office he stole.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
52. Moreover, "taste of his own medicine" is what WORKS with the GOP base
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:50 PM
Apr 2018

To beat bullies, you humiliate them. Because their 'strength' is what their base likes. Ridicule them. That's what works.

(p.s. if you have trumper/gop base acquantances, the best thing you can do is ridicule the president. "Orange tint from spray tan", "fat ass" "got rolled by the Congress GOP on spending" "got rolled by Mexico on the wall" "short" "small hands" "Has gotten no laws passed&quot

Danascot

(4,694 posts)
48. Comey should have quoted our own great Ferret
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:30 PM
Apr 2018

"... he's basically a stack of asses that's been spray-tanned, with a dead prairie dog on top."

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
50. Anyone who criticizes Comey doesn't understand how to beat bullies
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:46 PM
Apr 2018

To beat bullies, you make them look weak. You humiliate them.

Implying DJT is short and has small hands is EXACTLY how you reach the GOP base. EXACTLY.

Comey is smart.

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
53. Fuck that characterization. Everyone should unload with both barrels
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:51 PM
Apr 2018

On that dog shit in the White House. He deserves every bit of biting and vindictive poison his enemies can dish out.

I repeat—FUCK TRUMP. I spit on him.

videohead5

(2,181 posts)
58. I think he thought
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:06 PM
Apr 2018

Hillary was going to win no matter what...but he made a big mistake.he should have gone through the emails before he said anything.they turned out to be duplicates of ones they already had.

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
62. Comey is only giving as good as he got.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:19 PM
Apr 2018

Saying Trump is orange is about the nicest thing that can be said about him.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
90. He really insults the color Orange...
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:56 PM
Apr 2018

We'd much prefer to think of the "juicy fruit that makes great juice".... and he's insulted the word Orange !!!

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
68. This is the same false equivalency that Hillary faced. Comey makes a couple of...
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:26 PM
Apr 2018

... factual observations and reports some personal feelings (which we long for in tell all books) and he causes more of a flap than Trump, who spouts awful things EVERY DAY.

marble falls

(57,208 posts)
69. So what? They'll outrage only about the 35% of us who support cheetolini. No surprises....
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:29 PM
Apr 2018

But it is just another bit of what will keep us fired up. This is the most important off year election ever. I want them to keep pooling these petty outrages that don't hurt much so I will stay angry till Nov 6 and beyond. I do not think our next candidate will either Hillary or Bernie, but that's OK, we have a pretty good field for then. Who do the Republicans have???

paleotn

(17,960 posts)
70. Oh.....pearl clutching......
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:51 PM
Apr 2018

.....Oh, my word! Comey said some mean and terrible things about Shit Stain. How could he!? That's just terrible!

Funny how these people fail to apply the same level of decorum to the shit gibbon. My opinion is give the shit gibbon as bad or worse than the dishes out. Make his name a synonym for unethical, stupidity for generations to come.

janx

(24,128 posts)
71. Wait a minute.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

Some people--an awful lot of people--will read this book, in which Comey describes his career and specifically his experience with Drumpf.

But how much does Comey know about Drumpf that isn't in the book? Also, wouldn't it be interesting if there is information in the book that has not/will not have been publicized?

Intriguing.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
76. James Comey is one brave patriot American
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 AM
Apr 2018

I just assume of all this is part of the counter intelligence operation to get the Russian agent/mobster and his band of thugs put of the White House/Congress.

I applaud Comey's courage and plan to buy his book and RT his tweets because I'm an American and I want my country back

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
89. Hes the asshole who helped get the Shitgibbon elected
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:10 PM
Apr 2018

in the first goddamned place. A pox on both their houses.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
93. Yes I tweeted about this several times on election day and the day after.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:49 PM
Apr 2018

I described Comey's 10/28/2016 as the coup letter. I was absolutely enraged.

When I look back on it, the REAL damage though occurred when he said at a news conference there was no evidence of criminal wrongdoing by Clinton but spent most of his time makingthe case that her actions had actually been criminal. This is what his boss LORETTA LYNCH told him NOT to do. She told him to follow DOJ protocol which was not to comment on closed investigations.


Buns_of_Fire

(17,195 posts)
85. I always thought shitgibbon's eyes looked raccoonish.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:01 AM
Apr 2018

But other than noting that a raccoon is another small furry mammal with little itty-bitty paws that likes to rummage around in people's garbage, I couldn't make it sound insulting enough. So I'll stick with Jabba the President for the time being.

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
88. Heavens to Betsy, what an awful thing
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

to say about someone - that their orange skin and white bags under their eyes probably came from wearing goggles in the tanning booth! How vicious!

Equally vicious was Comey saying trump's hands were smaller than his but not unusually small. OMG!

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
91. the truth must be told...
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:07 PM
Apr 2018

Trump if he could would want to get on TV and drop his pants and measure equipment!!! I guess his smaller hands settle that contest....

I'd hope that over time Comey tells even more of what he actually knows.... He's no longer under the constraints of Office... therefore he can tell "all" !!!
In telling it!! it can force investigations that can lead to even more charges, when people are forced to act on what has the spotlight shining on it.

We already know many things, from Money Laundering to being Putin's flunkies...We just watched Trump give the signal to Putin before he launched a strike... hoping it will take the heat off his arse... he'd promised Putin something for no responding.... and Putin is going to hold him to it... "all we have to do is watch and see what next Trump panders to" in aim to try and repay Putin for not responding in a overt manner.

Putin Owns Trump and Trump is in Awe not only of Putin, but He is in Awe of every Russian Oligarch that wields money and spins it in the Money Washing Machine....

Comey Can Talk !!! no position and now having no official title that prohibits him from talking... and the more he keeps talking about Trump, the better it is for America.

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