Have you heard about this new restaurant? The service is incredible. For me at least. (Cartoon)

[WillParkinson]

[democratisphere]

1. The Pentagon and Military Industrial Complex are gorging themselves under drumpf!

Everyone and everything else is left starving!

[FakeNoose]

14. My guess is this cartoon is from the 1960s

However it's still appropriate today, sadly. Maybe even more so.

[democratisphere]

22. In the 1960s healthcare was not as outrageously expensive as it is today.

I can't make out the date on the cartoon in the lower right hand corner. Everytime redumbliCONs are in office, this gorging happens. I agree with you, specially on the more so

[sandensea]

28. It's a Soviet cartoon from 1953, interestingly.

https://www.liveinternet.ru/tags/%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0/

Note the dollars and pounds the waiters are piling on the soldier's plate (as well as John Foster Dulles, 'John Bull', and the Nazi in the background, at right).

Of course, the Soviets later, under Brezhnev, fell into the same pattern themselves.

[A HERETIC I AM]

31. That IS interesting

Good find!

[sandensea]

32. Why, thank you.

It's from the long-running Soviet satirical magazine Krokodil.

A lot of their work was brazen propaganda, and some of it anti-Semitic; but they had their moments.

Nazis facing defeat (note Britain's Edward VIII and Norway's Quisling in the background):



Hitler as the child of Big Business interests:



Churchill evoking Nazis (according to the Soviet view) by expounding on Anglo-Saxon domination and the Iron Curtain:

[KY_EnviroGuy]

38. Who does the monkey on Hitler's back represent?

(top cartoon)

Thanks for posting those........

[sandensea]

39. Herr Goebbels.

And you're welcome.

Some of their work was hateful (particularly their anti-Semitic ones); but Krokodil has also very anti-Nazi, and some of their stuff was quite prescient - even 60/70 years later.

[dalton99a]

49. Most WWII-era caricatures were done by the prolific Boris Yefimov

[sandensea]

51. I see. Thanks!

Excluding his anti-Semitic work (done possibly on 'request' from Stalin), he was a great wit. He could have given good health advice as well: Yefimov lived to be 108.

[Ohiogal]

2. GREAT drawing.

[genxlib]

3. That is a great political cartoon

K&R

[oberliner]

4. Where did you come across this cartoon?

[packman]

5. Yes, I'd like to know source also - Looks like early 1900's

maybe pre or post WWI??

[IronLionZion]

8. That says a lot about our country's priorities if it's been a problem for that long

[Sophia4]

9. No. Too many women in prestigious jobs.

[WillParkinson]

13. Someone posted it to Facebook...

I've tried using Google Image, but can't find the artist or where it first appeared.

On edit: CSZiggy found it. It's an adapted Russian cartoon.

“This restaurant serves only one person.” A bunch of bankers serve money to personification of War, while Art, Schools, Libraries, and Healthcare get nothing [Soviet Union] [1953] [Krokodil magazine, issue 03-04, 1953]
https://imgur.com/r/PropagandaPosters/Tf0YhXq

[oberliner]

25. I sense an undercurrent of antisemitism in the cartoon

Hearing it is from 1950s USSR supports that possibility.

[sandensea]

30. Not at all. One of the waiters, the last one at right, is a Nazi.

John Foster Dulles, a French president, and 'John Bull' (representing the British elite) round out the obsequious crew.

[oberliner]

34. What is the indication of that waiter being a Nazi?

[sandensea]

36. The lapel pin

They seem to be portraying Adenauer, whom the Soviets believed to harbor Nazi sympathies (the fact that he was imprisoned and tortured by the Nazis notwithstanding).

[oberliner]

46. I wouldn't exactly call Adenauer a Nazi

But I do see the likeness.

[sandensea]

50. I wouldn't either (poor guy!)

But the Soviets believed he sympathized with them, and that that was why he was chosen as Chancellor.

My guess is that was probably just Stalin, rather than Soviet officials in general, who really believed that. Stalin, as you know, was quite paranoid.

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. If you look at the clearer original version in the link in reply #28

you can see that the round badge on his lapel is a swastika.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Looks old (and good). Wonder who the artist is? Can't decipher name bottom right. . . . nt

[Sophia4]

11. Not that old. Women in positions of importance.

That would not have been the case prior to the 1940s or maybe even 1960s, 1970s.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. In the Russian (see below), the women are librarian (Biblioteque) and in Arts. Traditional roles

... even in Soviet Russia.

[Sophia4]

19. I think it depends on what is meant by "old."

I think of "old as at most early 1900s.

But if we are talking about the 1940s as old, even then science would not have a female looking figure.

In the 1950s and until the 1960s, with the exception of WWII, women could become nurses, teachers or secretaries. That's when I was growing up. No female figure would have represented science or medicine. Or most other fields. Maybe education but not much else.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. In the Russian from 1953, the table transliterates as "Biblioteque" which would be "Library"

Like French.

[csziggy]

12. Seems to be from the 1950s - and criticizing the Soviet Union!

“This restaurant serves only one person.” A bunch of bankers serve money to personification of War, while Art, Schools, Libraries, and Healthcare get nothing [Soviet Union] [1953] [Krokodil magazine, issue 03-04, 1953]
https://imgur.com/r/PropagandaPosters/Tf0YhXq

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Yes, found a Russian version. May be 1953 as you say. Seems to be "53" in bottom right.

Cartoon title translates to "In America"

https://antisemit-ru.livejournal.com/554230.html

Why I do not believe in the aggressive aspirations of the NATO bloc against Russia.

Mar 1, 2016 at 19:44

murzik
It's very simple: for any aggressive actions, a unanimous decision of all its members is required. Still that muddy bureaucratic procedure.

Moreover, the main European countries of NATO - Germany, Italy and other "old camarilla" will be sharply against such an adventure. Naturally, any American decision will be supported by the so-called "new countries" - former members of the Warsaw Pact and the Baltic states. Well, of course, and England.

More realistic are any actions to PROTECT a NATO member state, in the case of Russian aggression. If it is Poland, then the reaction will be relatively quick: a few days. Days, not immediately, this very hour! At the same time, the evidence of Russian aggression must be impeccable. What do you want to answer in the style of Rabinovitch from an anecdote: "You will not wait!", Because why should Russia?

Very much I doubt that something will happen if Russian air defense forces shoot down "Obama Falcons" in the Baltic skies ... There will be a lot of noise and stink, yes. And because of this a full-fledged war will begin, I do not believe in the word "absolutely". Accordingly, the Russian invasion of Lithuania there, or Latvia - is complete stupidity. Because to whom they, fuck, are needed?

I already wrote about a possible war against a NATO member state on the southern flank. Here and here. I believe that the entire NATO bloc, except for this country, affected by the virtual Russian invasion, will happen, it will take its place in front of the TV. With popcorn, of course.

Really and in fact, if anyone can fight against Russia, this is only the United States. If Congress allows the president to use the American army outside the borders of America. So simply, well, the President's shiza struck, the US will not start a war with anyone. If there is no attack of the territory of the United States and Canada, automatically, the US military will not go into combat mode. And such a development of the situation will not be by definition. And to organize a thread provocation, it's not that simple.

Moreover, Obama is now a "lame duck". He "extends" his term and especially important decisions will not be accepted.

Therefore, I perceive the possibility of American aggression against Russia as a sick fantasy suffering from schizophrenia.

That's it, gentlemen!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Russian toon title "In America". Krokodil (Crocodile) only satirical magazine allowed by Soviets

[a kennedy]

7. Its true and how sad it is.

[malaise]

10. Pefect

Rec

[marble falls]

16. I'd like a little more infirmation about this cartoon, check out the waiters....

maybe a little bit of antisemitism in there?

[oberliner]

24. I was sensing a bit of that as well

Apparently the magazine from which this was originally sourced has more than dabbled in anti-semitism.

Also - note the use of dollar and pound signs for the money.

[marble falls]

26. It makes me uncomfortable. The USSR used a lot of propaganda regarding "Jewish Bankers" that....

could have come right of of Goebel's desk, art-wise.

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. sandensea's identification of the waiter on the far right as Adenauer seems right

And John Foster Dulles is believable, but I wouldn't say it's a great likeness:



If the other waiter in black is meant to be French, I can't tell if it's a specific French politician from the time - I don't know them. The identification of the one in red as 'John Bull' for Britain makes sense, since he's serving pounds; it doesn't look like a British politician I can think of, though it doesn't have the ultra-obvious cliches John Bull is normally given (eg Union jack waistcoat).

[marble falls]

41. I bow to your eye, but it still makes me wonder a little bit. Frankly all the German characters ....

could be said to resemble Adenauer, too.

The Soviet Union at the same time was dealing in the last of Stalin and was not such a much as a worker's paradise, either. Where would you'd rather have been at that time - the US or the USSR? And the USSR was at least as antisemitic as any other nation.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. I'm not saying the cartoonist is right to blame everything on western powers of the time

but in the better quality images, it's definitely a swastika on the 'Adenauer' waiter's lapel badge. I don't think this cartoon is saying anything at all about anyone Jewish.

[marble falls]

45. I agree. Please see below.

[marble falls]

43. Actually someone pointed out the swastika on Adenauer's lapel. I guess this is a cartoon that...

points out that propaganda needs so wide a brush that it can at times support two different 'punchlines'.

I am glad to be wrong.

[bullwinkle428]

17. K&R. Of course, the right would attempt to turn this around

and say something like "Why do you hate the troops?"

[BobTheSubgenius]

27. The waiter with the green face is a nice touch.

Pretty hard to be subtle on this subject. It used to be that the armed forces - usually Marines - were the shock troops for American threatened business interests abroad. Now, they ARE the business interests abroad.

[scarletwoman]

29. Look at the button on his left lapel - it's a swastika. nt

[Rabrrrrrr]

33. And the sad part is that it's not really the soldiers/military who want all that money, or war,

it's the congresscritters forcing shit on them because it's made in the congresscritters' districts, and forcing war on the military because the companies that profit off war demand it.

(or in the case of Russia when this was created, the Russian leadership forcing war spending and forcing wars, and not so much something the military wanted, either)

[ArchTeryx]

47. This was an actual plot point in Red Storm Rising.

Probably the most "balanced" of the Tom Clancy novels (mostly because he was only a co-author on it). The Politburo as depicted in the novel was straight-up evil, using a major Islamic terrorist attack and a bunch of lies as an excuse to start a war of aggression with NATO, mostly as a means to consolidate their own power. (Sound familiar, boys and girls?)

The Russian military were depicted as competent antivillains - just doing the jobs that were forced on them, as deep in the shit as their supposed enemies in NATO. In fact it ultimately is a military coup that puts an end to the war before it turns into a nukefest. For the most part, the military of both sides just wanted the war to be over, and a whole lot of both sides die in the course of their duty.

I remember reading it during the Bush years and noting the frightening parallels between the Soviets of the novel and the U.S. at the time.

[ailsagirl]

35. That's about it

[Wounded Bear]

42. Kind of says it all...

[Cha]

48. KICK!