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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSlate - worth reading "How Shania Twain can possibly think Trump is "honest""
Still the OneNo matter how blatantly Trump lies, voters (and Shania Twain) will see him as authentic. Heres why.
By YASCHA MOUNK
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/shania-twain-and-the-crisis-of-american-democracy-really.html
Shania Twain, the country singer who has sold more than 100 million records and is in the midst of attempting a big comeback, is probably wishing that she had steered clear of politics right about now. Being Canadian, she even has a great excuse for declining to comment on American debates. And yet, in a wide-ranging interview with the Guardian this weekend, she volunteered that she would have loved to vote for Donald Trump:
I would have voted for him because, even though he was offensive, he seemed honest. Do you want straight or polite? If I were voting, I just dont want bullshit. I would have voted for a feeling that it was transparent. And politics has a reputation of not being that, right?
So polarized is our politicsand so toxic is the president of the United Statesthat Twain was furiously starting to backpedal before the weekend was out. I am passionately against discrimination of any kind and hope its clear from the choices I have made, and the people I stand with, that I do not hold any common moral beliefs with the current President, she tweeted on Sunday night. But where most of the media simply saw a bizarre PR screw-up, I saw anecdotal confirmation of an important paper in the august American Sociological Review.
Let me explain.
In a recent academic article, Oliver Hahl, Minjae Kim and Ezra Zuckerman Sivan set out to figure out one of the central puzzles of the 2016 election: Why did so many people support Donald Trump even though he told so many blatant lies?
Some politicians lie about things voters dont know to be untrue: They promise not to raise taxes, boast about their family values while shtupping their hairdressers, or claim to love babies when they would much rather not have to touch them. These kinds of lies are usually designed to go undetected. Politicians who employ them have some realistic hope of concealing their future policies, their marital infidelities, or their true views on the cuteness of babies long enough to get elected.
Whats striking about Donald Trumpand many other authoritarian populists around the worldis that he also loves to indulge in a second, more easily detectable kind of lie. The concept of climate change, Trump tweeted years before entering politics, was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive. Barack Obama, Trump claimed during the 2016 campaign, had founded ISIS. Trumps win in the Electoral College, he boasted a few weeks after the election, was the biggest since Ronald Reagan.
snip - more at the link. I just don't understand our current situation....simply bizarre.
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Slate - worth reading "How Shania Twain can possibly think Trump is "honest"" (Original Post)
NRaleighLiberal
Apr 2018
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Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)1. The obvious answer is smarts aint her strong suit
Should have stuck to putting cliches to music.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)2. that's obvious - but the article discusses how many think similarly
It isn't just Shania.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)3. Goes for the rest of them as well
LuvLoogie
(7,016 posts)4. They voted for a grifter bigot because he promised to treat like shit the people they hate...
or they didn't give shit if he did as long as it wasn't them and they got a tax cut.
Freddie
(9,269 posts)5. At least she didn't vote for him
She's Canadian.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)6. Hmm, did she vote for Justin
Trudeau? I wonder!
pansypoo53219
(20,983 posts)7. brain farts are authentic?
Cha
(297,395 posts)8. She fucked up her big comeback. "trump honest"?
her stupid lack of knowledge pisses me off.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)9. K&R, "most Trump supporters are perfectly happy to acknowledge that the president occasionally lies"
The occasional lie makes him "authentic" to them, more real
They've not meet people who are authentic and moral, to them those two things don't go together.
Going after Benedict Donald's authenticity is probably the best way to get his enablers to look at who he really is.