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triron

(22,008 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:08 PM Apr 2018

The Guardian: Hillary Clinton attacks Trump for 'all out war on truth,facts, and reason'.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/23/hillary-clinton-trump-attack-criticism-pen-event-comments

“When leaders deny things we can see with our own eyes, like the size of a crowd at the inauguration, when they refuse to accept settled science when it comes to urgent challenges like climate change … it is the beginning of the end of freedom, and that is not hyperbole. It’s what authoritarian regimes through history have done.”

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The Guardian: Hillary Clinton attacks Trump for 'all out war on truth,facts, and reason'. (Original Post) triron Apr 2018 OP
and she's right, again. spooky3 Apr 2018 #1
This is a grim warning from someone who is very very smart. Scares me. triron Apr 2018 #2
Hillary won.. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #3
She's mighty right. oasis Apr 2018 #4
She's right! peggysue2 Apr 2018 #5
You tell 'em, Madame President! lunamagica Apr 2018 #6
This thought just occurred triron Apr 2018 #7
Because they're too busy covering trump radical noodle Apr 2018 #10
And this is why I keep sending money to the Guardian, even though they don't require it yet. pnwmom Apr 2018 #13
Well Done, Hillary! Cha Apr 2018 #8
Exactly. Yet, the reprehensible GOP thugs allow him to do it without consequences iluvtennis Apr 2018 #9
I have been wondering what sane leaders are saying to each other, their friends and family. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #11
K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #12

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
5. She's right!
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:45 PM
Apr 2018

As she often is. The whole purpose of continuing propaganda in authoritarian regimes is to confuse the public until they cannot discern fact from fiction. In the extreme, the public simply gives up trying. And that's when we can all kiss our freedoms good-bye.

So no, it's not hyperbole.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
10. Because they're too busy covering trump
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:17 AM
Apr 2018

24/7?



https://allarts.wliw.org/2018/04/5-powerful-moments-hillary-clintons-lecture-pen-america-world-voices-festival/


Capping off a week of PEN World Voices Festival events dedicated to the theme “Resist and Reimagine,” Hillary Clinton delivered the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture in the Great Hall at the Cooper Union in New York. A key component to each year’s festival, the Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture is named for playwright Arthur Miller, a fierce advocate for free expression and longtime leader of PEN. Following the lecture, author Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie (“Purple Hibiscus,” “Half of a Yellow Sun,” “Americanah”) joined Clinton for a conversation about how we can imagine a better future for our society.

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)
13. And this is why I keep sending money to the Guardian, even though they don't require it yet.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:56 AM
Apr 2018

I want them to be able to afford to stay in business!

Cha

(297,446 posts)
8. Well Done, Hillary!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:09 AM
Apr 2018
“When leaders deny things we can see with our own eyes, like the size of a crowd at the inauguration, when they refuse to accept settled science when it comes to urgent challenges like climate change … it is the beginning of the end of freedom, and that is not hyperbole. It’s what authoritarian regimes through history have done.”

Mahalo, triron!

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
11. I have been wondering what sane leaders are saying to each other, their friends and family.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:22 AM
Apr 2018

It is one thing to say it on the news or on a tweet, but what they really think of the overall situation when alone with trusted people is what interests me. I feel some comfort when I listen to people who are familiar or have experience and knowledge beyond mine speak in sage terms. When they seem unbiased and look at the big picture of our country's future I try to relax a bit. Then I think about what they really think...in private. Are they as calm and sure that things will work out and things will eventually get back to normal as
they act in public? This seems to me like Hillary is not as sure about our country's future as the politicians who speak on the record and tell us that things will all be OK once the Dems are back in control again.

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