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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:47 AM Apr 2018

"Democrats hate Trump so much that they cannot see all the good he is doing..."

This is a meme we see from the right all the time.

The truth of the matter is that the right hates "liberals", and anything "Democratic", so much, that they are willing to sacrifice their souls in their battle. If anyone thinks the right does not hate the "liberals", just listen to a little of the 8-10 hours of hatred that is on talk radio every single day.

"Yeah, but look at the economy!", they say. "Look at our taxcuts!"

But look at what they are willing to accept. There is no need to try and explain honesty and character and humanity and civilization to someone who has closed their mind to such.

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"Democrats hate Trump so much that they cannot see all the good he is doing..." (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2018 OP
To know that Cons are twisted and evil, you only need to Orangeutan Apr 2018 #1
"scoundrel"??? Rorey Apr 2018 #3
Agree! mountain grammy Apr 2018 #4
Yep. . ... kentuck Apr 2018 #5
Nail, meet hammer. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #14
Truth! Kurt V. Apr 2018 #27
The Republican's constituency is the scum of the earth. They must be defeated. olegramps Apr 2018 #46
All the while, through the back door..... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #48
They sold their souls to the devil Rorey Apr 2018 #2
Sold their souls and didn't actually get a good economy either. DemocracyMouse Apr 2018 #36
All true but as much as you try there seems to be no way to reason with those who are in that DylanUSC Apr 2018 #6
If you could reason with Dwump supporters, they wouldn't be Dwump supporters....eom lastlib Apr 2018 #23
Well, you got me there, that is an absolute. DylanUSC Apr 2018 #37
I do believe there is a good and an evil in this world. kentuck Apr 2018 #7
Hillary got it right Deplorable. gordianot Apr 2018 #8
:-)__% kentuck Apr 2018 #9
Hillary DID get it absolutely right... still wish she hadn't SAID it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #15
The economy is faltering. The tax cuts are tiny and temporary. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #10
Nothing is permanent. This was done with 51 votes and can be undone with 51 votes. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #13
Not if that Orange menace still squats in the Oval. Nt MANative Apr 2018 #25
True...so lets play the 20 election smart...let run on health care, infrastructure etc... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #53
You don't have to listen to a bunch of talk radio wysimdnwyg Apr 2018 #11
If a Democrataic president had gas prices nearing or at $3.00 per gallon...there would Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #12
He inherited eight straight years of growth under President Barack Obama. kentuck Apr 2018 #16
It looks bad from where I am sitting. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #57
Yep - the Lordstown plant is running only on one shift now Ohiogal Apr 2018 #17
That is a bit disturbing... kentuck Apr 2018 #20
Yes, I agree. Ohiogal Apr 2018 #26
I don't know if we are capable of looking inward for the answers...? kentuck Apr 2018 #29
I don't know if it's possible Ohiogal Apr 2018 #30
The future is less partisan. kentuck Apr 2018 #35
Yeah well the trickle down money will dry up... then they will be sorry. I saw the same thing in Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #56
So true... let's hope 2018 is just the first step in righting the ship of state. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #18
I hope so...we all want to get rid of the GOP...I hope we manage it first in 18 and then in 20. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #54
I think we will Dems... I have a great feeling about the "blue wave" that's comin in 2018... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #60
I am with you...I would vote for anyone who won the Democratic primary. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #61
He does not have a dog and safeinOhio Apr 2018 #19
He's never had a pet or a dog? kentuck Apr 2018 #22
You would think Melania would get a pet fir her son mainstreetonce Apr 2018 #28
Good for who? bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #21
They should be called the Yea Butts or just the deplorables. Oppaloopa Apr 2018 #24
I see RWers are using Iliyah Apr 2018 #31
We've looked at our economy and tax cuts IronLionZion Apr 2018 #32
the RW heaven05 Apr 2018 #33
As soon as he actually does something good.... moose65 Apr 2018 #34
Disingenuous as they know Democrats do not believe in tax cuts treestar Apr 2018 #38
Fox News has destroyed their ability to think cognitively! Initech Apr 2018 #39
It's like some doting mother trying to convince you that her kid takes the best shits. PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #40
Indeed. kentuck Apr 2018 #42
What good? Baitball Blogger Apr 2018 #41
What tax cuts? nolabels Apr 2018 #63
More projection... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #43
"Look at the economy" hueymahl Apr 2018 #44
It's true: I can't see it. n/t Orsino Apr 2018 #45
Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein were always so misunderstood. lpbk2713 Apr 2018 #47
I think a lot of the really nasty stuff Turbineguy Apr 2018 #49
Republicans Are So Crazy About Trump That They Can't See All the Bad He's Doing. panfluteman Apr 2018 #50
Ultra RW Hate Media ruining the country and families. It has to end. appalachiablue Apr 2018 #51
I must be blind as a bat Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #52
From my perspective, things are getting worse. Vinca Apr 2018 #55
Never mind the fact that his fans are murdering people. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #58
Well, I CAN see all the good he's doing! TrollBuster9090 Apr 2018 #59
I think in the wake of trump "values voters" need a new moniker. D23MIURG23 Apr 2018 #62

Orangeutan

(204 posts)
1. To know that Cons are twisted and evil, you only need to
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:51 AM
Apr 2018

look at how they despise a good and honorable man like Obama, making up lies about him and doing everything they can to destroy him, while they revere, in cultlike fashion, a disgusting scoundrel like Trump.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
46. The Republican's constituency is the scum of the earth. They must be defeated.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:08 AM
Apr 2018

Their constituency consists of the ultra-wealthy and the desperate working class that advancements have left behind and have no skills to satisfy the present economy and most importantly no means or desire to change their qualifications. They are easy prey for scoundrels like Trump who give them false hope that he can magically reverse the situation and effectively turn back the clock when factories employed millions performing rote jobs. Throw in the evangelical zealots who are determined to make everyone embrace their radical religious beliefs. To the mix add in the "end-timers who are easy prey and just useful idiots to be exploited by Republican frauds who don't share their delusions. The Republican Party chose to employ fraud and deceit to win elections over the last forty to fifty years ago rather than honesty to confront the challenges that face the nation. As a consequence rather than advancing solutions they have mired the political process in swamp of unresolved problems. In contrast, the Democrats have basically held true to making the government an instrument to address the complex problems of a rapidly changing society. This is in sharp contrast to the Republicans whose refusal to adopt progressive solutions has been their consistent position. These include issues such as health care, infrastructure, retirement plans, the entire new world of automation, ....

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,493 posts)
48. All the while, through the back door.....
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:22 AM
Apr 2018

installing a deeply corrupt right-wing plutocracy. And, using the money they've taken from us, they're trying to force this trend around the globe.

Thanks for the good summary. They've known exactly the right emotional buttons to push for a long, long time.

.....

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. They sold their souls to the devil
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:53 AM
Apr 2018

a long time ago.

I've tried to explain this to my husband, but as a member of the 45 cult, he just doesn't get it.

 

DylanUSC

(142 posts)
6. All true but as much as you try there seems to be no way to reason with those who are in that
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:59 AM
Apr 2018

hardcore base group of defending him. They are blind to anything else.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,020 posts)
10. The economy is faltering. The tax cuts are tiny and temporary.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:08 AM
Apr 2018

The tax cuts for the 1% are large and permanent.

The granny killing deficit will be paid for by YOUR grandchildren.

wysimdnwyg

(2,232 posts)
11. You don't have to listen to a bunch of talk radio
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:09 AM
Apr 2018

Just watch one campaign ad from Diane Black (running for Gov. in Tennessee). She definitely plays to the rabid right, with her fawning over Trump and, of course, bashing "liberals".

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
12. If a Democrataic president had gas prices nearing or at $3.00 per gallon...there would
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:09 AM
Apr 2018

be hysteria...and we have had layoff in Ohio directly because of the president...the steel tariffs have caused GM Lordstown to lose another shift...car costs more to manufacture...also Parma GM as well...steel jobs pay is shitty so there has been little benefit for us. My 401 K is down $10,000. The economy is weakening as it did before 08...and our Ohio farmers are hurting from the tariffs...good jobs sacrificed for an industry that no longer has the infrastructure to make a comeback.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
16. He inherited eight straight years of growth under President Barack Obama.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:16 AM
Apr 2018

And it appears that they are in the process of taking our economy under once again.

I don't know if it is true or not, but they say a "fish rots from the head first"??

Ohiogal

(32,026 posts)
17. Yep - the Lordstown plant is running only on one shift now
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:18 AM
Apr 2018

And my investment lost $2000 from last year.

There always seems to be an undercurrent of hatred of people who work those union jobs in the Chevy plant around here. I think they're just jealous that it's a good job with good benefits. Or, used to be. You'd think they'd be proud of the big auto plant we have here and all the jobs it provides. We have way too many deplorables living in this area.

So much winning!

Ohiogal

(32,026 posts)
26. Yes, I agree.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:36 AM
Apr 2018

You see comments in the papers all the time bashing the union employees out there..... Honestly, I think they're just jealous that someone else got a good job with good pay and benefits. If that plant ever closed up, this area would be in serious trouble. We may as well dry up and blow away in the wind. They've been the major employer here since I was in high school. I just don't get the "deplorable mindset".

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
29. I don't know if we are capable of looking inward for the answers...?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:42 AM
Apr 2018

...but I think we need to find a solution soon.

Ohiogal

(32,026 posts)
30. I don't know if it's possible
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:00 AM
Apr 2018

to reason with that type of mindset. My biggest hope is for the younger generation to cancel out all the hatefulness.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
56. Yeah well the trickle down money will dry up... then they will be sorry. I saw the same thing in
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

Doraville GA which closed and in Janesville WI which also closed. People were really snotty about GM...I hope and pray Lordstown gets a product in 19. And the second shift ...where will they go? The third shift was laid off for most of a year...and just recently went to Indiana. Autos feel an economic downturn first.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
60. I think we will Dems... I have a great feeling about the "blue wave" that's comin in 2018...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:12 PM
Apr 2018

I'm hoping it'll be more like a "blue TSUNAMI"!!

Just think what that would do for morale around here... nothing like winning and achieving a common goal of kickin' Rethug azz to unite people.

Wishin' you all the best.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
61. I am with you...I would vote for anyone who won the Democratic primary.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:42 PM
Apr 2018

And will vote a straight ticket of course in the meantime.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
28. You would think Melania would get a pet fir her son
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 08:42 AM
Apr 2018

who is an only child in a big house.
It would be good for him.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
31. I see RWers are using
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:01 AM
Apr 2018

reverse psychology crap again. It ain't gonna work. Even conservatives dislike, hate him tooooooooooo.

Anywho, they still hate Liberals more than the love of the USA. Actually, conservatives love money more than they love the USA. That is fact.

IronLionZion

(45,473 posts)
32. We've looked at our economy and tax cuts
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:05 AM
Apr 2018

and it's not helping. I pity the fools who are putting money into the stock market now thinking it's somehow not going to crash and burn soon. It's mostly the ordinary folks who get screwed while the wealthy buy low.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
33. the RW
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:06 AM
Apr 2018

has their own base of ignorant, ignorant people, 66million+ and growing at last count have their very own hitler, their own Goebbels like propaganda outlets that reach millions with their lies, believed by people predisposed to not think for themselves, lemmings actually, so what can be expected. The SHEEP that are following this current administration in our capital are being led to the slaughter and most of those sheep don't see it or care, just as long as white. I just wish I didn't have to watch or experience this tragedy called ameriKKKan potus.

What worries me is the inability of those arond the potusPOS not being able to keep IT in check. He's mean and narcissistic. He's our very own jim jones clone who is potus. Will kill us all. Our lives are in the hands of a mad man. I just hope someone around this potusPOS still holds on to sanity and wants to live.

moose65

(3,167 posts)
34. As soon as he actually does something good....
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:07 AM
Apr 2018

I'll be glad to comment on it. The question I always have is "What exactly has he done that is good for the vast majority of people in this country?" So far, I don't see anything. The economy was already doing quite well under Obama and the US economy is a big thing that takes a long time to change - the inertia from the Obama years was enough to keep it humming for over a year. Really, a president has no effect on the economy for about a year anyway, so that means Trump's influence is only 3 months old!

I find it funny that conservatives accuse us of "hatred" when in fact they are the ones who hate everything even remotely Democratic, and were committed to opposing EVERYTHING that Obama proposed before they even saw the proposals. Fuck every one of them (and I say that with the sweetest Southern "Bless your heart" voice)!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. Disingenuous as they know Democrats do not believe in tax cuts
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:31 AM
Apr 2018

Why do they pretend we can't see through their "arguments"?

Initech

(100,089 posts)
39. Fox News has destroyed their ability to think cognitively!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:44 AM
Apr 2018

It was Obama, not Trump that repaired the economy. Trump is just taking credit for it. Fuck Fox News!

Baitball Blogger

(46,750 posts)
41. What good?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 09:47 AM
Apr 2018

All around me people are losing their jobs or acquiring health problems that they can't pay off. Those tax cuts mean nothing to people who are out of a job.

You know when you reach a certain age and you start going back to the beginning, paying more attention to the Reunions? Well, already learning the price of despair in some of my old friend's lives. Some aren't going to make it to the next Reunion.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
63. What tax cuts?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 07:37 AM
Apr 2018

Especially if you live California and industrious enough to own your home. I already figured mine out for next season, the formula they used put about fifty-two dollars a week in take-home pay. Then at the end of the year, I have to give it back because of loss of deductions for the same so-called tax cut.

The people who get to keep the extra money where the people who make over five hundred thousand a year. Mostly us common folks are just getting cuts to government services

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
43. More projection...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:00 AM
Apr 2018

It's what they do. They can't see their own actions. Self awareness is not their strong suit.

hueymahl

(2,503 posts)
44. "Look at the economy"
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:04 AM
Apr 2018

Yes, the Obama boom is well on its way, surviving even the mismanagement of the asshole-in-chief.

lpbk2713

(42,763 posts)
47. Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein were always so misunderstood.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:15 AM
Apr 2018



If only their critics were not so mean to them.




Turbineguy

(37,359 posts)
49. I think a lot of the really nasty stuff
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:43 AM
Apr 2018

is coming from Russian bots. An old propagit ploy. The right with their low credulity level eats this shit up

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
50. Republicans Are So Crazy About Trump That They Can't See All the Bad He's Doing.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:46 AM
Apr 2018

Put the shoe on the other foot, and it's so much more in line with facts and reality. Any seeming "good" that Trump may be doing is all so illusionary and diversionary.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
52. I must be blind as a bat
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:31 AM
Apr 2018

because I can't name anything good Trump is doing- even trying to be objective. Has anybody out there ever tried to compile an objective list of good things that Trump has done/is doing?

And FTR the taxcuts suck and Trump inherited a good economy from President Obama, an economy that is actually starting to not do so well.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
55. From my perspective, things are getting worse.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:19 PM
Apr 2018

My quarterly tax estimate is higher for 2018 and it's based on 2017 income. Everything from gas to groceries has become more expensive. We couldn't save money if we tried and it would sure be nice to take a vacation again before we die.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
59. Well, I CAN see all the good he's doing!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:48 PM
Apr 2018

Here are the GOOD things Trump is doing:

-Exploding the GOP myth that a private sector businessman can run government better than any bureaucrat can.
-Exploding the myth of the superiority of the middle aged white male 'conservative'
-Exploding the myth that the GOP hated Clinton because of his adulterous behavior.
-Exploding the myth that the GOP is all about 'family values'
-Exploding the myth that people from the private sector are inherently more competent than people from the public sector.
-Exposing how much 'conservatives' loot and exploit public resources and public property whenever they're in power. Prior to Trump, they were somewhat clever about hiding it. Now it's right out in the open.
-Exploding the myth (for the tenth time, at least) that if you lower taxes, the economy will out grow the revenue loss, and revenues will go up.
-Exploding the myth that cutting taxes does not EXPLODE the DEFICIT.
-Exploding the myth that you can easily balance the budget by finding 'waste, fraud, and abuse' in Medicare and Social Security.
-Exploding the myth that if Republicans were elected they would cut spending and balance the budget.
-Exploding the myth that the private sector has 'all the best people' in it
-Exploding the myth that running government is EASY compared to running a business
-Exploding the myth that if Republicans were elected they're repeal and replace Obamacare with a healthcare plan that will magically make everybody's premiums go down, and everybody's level of care go UP.

Any others that you can think of?

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
62. I think in the wake of trump "values voters" need a new moniker.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:37 AM
Apr 2018

Since "family values" and "christian values" clearly have nothing to do with their motivations. I have a few suggestions that might be more accurate:

- "asshole electors"

- "vandal voters"

- "klan konstituents"

- "brown shirts"

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