Trump to Macron: "You have some dandruff on your collar."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

Macron to Trump: "It appears you have some Russian prostitute urine on yours."

[ornotna]

1. Just saw that

What a friggin imbecile.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. Context?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. When Trump and Macron were doing their formal sitdown with the press....

...Trump claimed Macron had a spec of dandruff on his coat collar and flicked it off.

For real.

[padah513]

7. He is such a petty bastard

[GoCubsGo]

10. Jeezus. I figured that was from Andy Borowitz or "The Onion."

SMGDH.

[Grammy23]

15. Just remember, this is the same ignorant a$$ boor who bolted in the

front door ahead of his wife and guests. He taste is ALL in his mouth. He is such an embarrassment to this country. Several of the Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves.

[steve2470]

25. Trump is such a world class asshole, sigh

I should be surprised but I'm not. Maybe he truly has no idea that's rude behavior, except by your parents in private. And to the French president, in public, just.... Others are probably right, he KNOWS it's rude and his stupid way of showing dominance.

[blake2012]

38. Hes been planning that for some time, I am sure

Ever since Macron bested him in the multi round Handshake Olympics.

[Tipperary]

5. It seems to be a mystery.

[IluvPitties]

3. Petty POS

[Atman]

6. Just another way to demonstrate his superiority.

He is such a petty asshole.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. And Macron is eating it up. Standing there kissing his ass. I am so sick of all of this

[awesomerwb1]

8. That was about

belittling the French in general.

[blake2012]

39. Dirty Europeans kind of slant as well as

Uhmmm..you got a little smudge in your mouth. Let me lick my finger and wipe it off for you like you’re 5 and I’m your mommy.

The whole theatrical way he does it so you really see the action and then SAYING what he is doing is so bush league.

Please let Angela Merkel and Macron get him back somehow.

I fucking hate that orange diseased cow.

[appalachiablue]

9. Look who's talking with gut stretching out of a tight shirt and TIE,

striped no less hanging down pointing to the crotch. Subtle, not!

[deurbano]

24. Macron should've responded by patting him on that gut and advising him to lay off the Freedom Fries.

[appalachiablue]

43. For sure, that would have been stunning! Macron's too classy maybe.

Although I can see Trudeau doing that, oh yeah! One day...

[BritVic]

11. Boorish POS.

What are the odds he'll be bragging about the upcoming military parade too?

[fleur-de-lisa]

12. He is jealous of Macron.

Macron is the antithesis of Cheetolini . . . slim, young, smart, stylish, not an asshole, not a criminal.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. And Macron speaks better English than he does. nt

[monmouth4]

19. Was just going to type that. Macron has what trumpy doesn't. He has it all..n/t

[NatBurner]

14. way to go, mr germaphobe

good job, genius

[C_U_L8R]

16. Power gimmicks

Right out of a self-help book for aspiring assholes

[LiberalLovinLug]

20. that's what I got out of it

Establishing a parent/child dominance.

[Ohiogal]

17. He may as well have

done that old stupid joke where you point to a place on one's shirt just below one's chin and say "What's That?" and when the person looks down, you whap them in the nose. Haw! Haw! I had a boss who liked to do this to the employees. It's so stupid, boorish, and childish. Trump is such an ignoramus. Obama would never stoop to a cloddish act like that. I'm sure his base loves seeing him pull a cloddish joke on the leader of France, though. That's about their speed.

[Kittycow]

18. It's probably trump's dried shellac hair spray flakes.

[NastyRiffraff]

21. I cringe every time he meets a foreign leader

He's an embarrassment to our country.

[Hulk]

22. This joint address by Macron and our jackass is humiliating...

How shameful. This lard ass, pompous jackass is a rambling, self-grandizing fool. France and the whole world get to focus on just how absent our country is from having an intelligent leader...and we are the laughing stock to the whole world. They have to feel pity on this once proud nation and our history of great leadership.

Painful. Just tragic and painful to watch.

[catbyte]

23. what an asshole. He'll tear anybody down to make himself feel like The Big Man.

What a pathetic POS.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. Macron to Trump: Your fly is open, mon ami,

but I don’t think you have to worry that anyone will be concerned.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. I love the joke but this fucker from France is kissing rumps ass and it makes me sick

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. Au contraire, mon ami. Macron is playing him.

The only one who doesn’t see that is Tump, who responds to flattery more than anything else. Macron is taking advantage of Spanky’s needy ego to obtain some advantage for France in light of the fact that Merkel and May are no longer in favor.

[Eliot Rosewater]

30. And the human race cant afford that shit right now. FUCK him.

He wants to see what he can GET from rump?

Yeah I know that, but it makes me even angrier at him.

This is basically Germany 1939...ANY appeasement is WRONG

Dont get me wrong I know what you say is true and once again rump is seen as a complete idiot, but world leaders have to do better than this.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. One thing he wants to get from Trump

is maintaining the Iran nuclear deal. Another is keeping the US in the Paris climate agreement. Those are good things for the US and the world, not just France, n’est pas? Look at the big picture.

[Eliot Rosewater]

33. He may agree to all of it and the INSTANT he gets back to the WH with bolton and

others will change his mind.

I will bet you ANY amount of money

I understand why you say this and in a different world I would agree, but no, not now, not him, not rump.
The entire world needs to denounce him and refuse to deal with him. Other than russia of course.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

35. How, exactly, will the United States benefit if all other world leaders

shun or condemn its president? I can’t see any good coming from a situation in which our allies denounce our president, as bad as he is. This would leave Russia as our only ally, and it’s bad enough that Putin owns Trump already. Putin should at least have some competition.

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. He isnt a legitimate leader and he is a traitor, these are unusual circumstances.

HE should be given no credibility at all.

And any negative consequence of that for this nation is what we deserve and may be the only wake up call we respond to in making sure a fascist isnt allowed to steal an election again.

[steve2470]

37. as much as we hate Trump here, he IS the President for now

Macron has to be pragmatic because the Iran deal is in the mix and other important stuff, especially relating to his own country.

The way Trump is, if you stand up to him and just tell him the blunt truth, he'll be a child and just do something harmful. Like backing out of the Iran deal and the climate accord and probably trying to punish France.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. That's not the way international diplomacy works, or should work.

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Yes, Trump is a colossal douche. No question. The whole world knows that the President of the United States is completely unfit to hold that position, and that he's a danger to the whole world. But isolating him would make him more dangerous than he already is - JFK understood that concept during the Cuban Missile Crisis, when he was able to negotiate the removal of the missiles from Cuba instead of denouncing Khrushchev. Had JFK said, in effect, fuck him, isolated him and refused to communicate at all, it's very possible that none of us would be here to talk about it, or anything else. Leaders of all nations regularly communicate, even in outwardly friendly and cordial ways, with terrible people in order to prevent those terrible people from being even more terrible.

Let's say Macron, Merkel, May and the other heads of state told Trump they thought he was a despicable ass and they wanted nothing to do with him. How would that benefit you or me? It wouldn't, at all. Eventually all trade deals and other treaties would be in the toilet. The Five Eyes countries would stop sharing intelligence with us. Our economy would crash. We'd be regarded as a rogue nation, as isolated and dangerous as North Korea. And, worst of all, there would be no external checks on Trump. Trump would withdraw the US from NATO, which would give Russia far more power and influence in Europe. Putin wouldn't even have to pretend any more that he controls our elections, which, under an unrestrained Trump, would be about as valid as the last Russian one.

If you think things are bad now, foreign leaders denouncing Trump as you suggest, leading to the isolation of the US and loss of allies, would be a terrible and possibly irreparable disaster.

[Eliot Rosewater]

41. This is not normal times, would you send someone to talk to Hitler?

Isolating him shows the American people they better as fuck remove him one way or another, now the deplorables will still say no and act like delporables, but it might get that middle ground uninterested in voting bunch off their asses!


I know what you are saying and why and in ANY other circumstance I would agree, but in this time I dont. Drastic times call for drastic measures.

Neither Castro or Khrushchev fit in this conversation, rump is unlike anybody in history.

You are right it would NOT benefit us, maybe the only way to get this country to do the right thing is to be treated like the virus we have become. I dont say this lightly.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. The Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't "normal" either.

In fact, we were much closer to total annihilation then than we have been ever since. Isolating Trump would hurt us and the rest of the world and it would be very stupid. Fortunately leaders like Macron understand that.

Also, in order to accomplish the unconditional surrender of Germany at the end of WWII and set up occupation zones, Churchill and Roosevelt did talk to Stalin, who was an even bigger douche than Trump. The Yalta conference was controversial, but the alternative could have been much worse.

The reasons nobody after Chamberlain was willing to negotiate with Hitler (although Churchill considered it) were: Hitler had inherited an international treaty limiting the size of the German military, which he disregarded. He renegotiated a treaty about the size of the German navy, which he also ignored. He agreed, at Munich, that the Sudetenland territories of Czechoslovakia were his “last territorial demand in Europe" but then seized the rest of Czechoslovakia. He signed a mutual-friendship pact with the Soviet Union and then invaded the Soviet Union. He signed an armistice with France that left the southern half under compliant rule from Vichy but then occupied Vichy France. In other words, Hitler ignored or violated every single deal he had ever made with anybody.

Trump is capable of some of that sort of behavior, but fortunately he is very much constrained and limited by other forces and entities. If he walks away from the Iran deal it's still valid as to the other signatories. Trump says he wants to withdraw the United States from the Paris climate agreement, but he can't just walk away because the earliest effective date of withdrawal for the U.S. is November of 2020. He withdrew from the TPP but now wants to renegotiate it. He's unreliable but he's not Hitler. The only way he could become Hitler is if he's isolated and has no allies who can manage him and keep him in check. Remember, Trump craves respect. Smart people like Macron, whose respect he obviously desires, are capable of getting him to behave like an ally.

[Hekate]

31. Oui. Macron and Merkel all in one week -- both talking about keeping that Iran nuke deal of Obama's

We have to live with Trump in the US -- but every national leader on the planet also has to deal with him as well. He's the 900 pound gorilla in the room, ugly, uncivilized, and ready to fling poo.

He responds to flattery.

What does DU think our allies should do?

[steve2470]

34. you are 100% correct about Macron

From what I've read about Macron, this is how he functions. He "seduces" people to get what he wants in politics, so, voilà, he's doing it to Trump.

“It’s Macron’s nature,” said William Drozdiak, author of “Fractured Continent: Europe’s Crises and the Fate of the West” and an upcoming biography of the French president. “He walks into a room, sees a chair and tries to seduce it.”

“He looks at Trump and says, ‘Okay, we’ve got our interests, and the best way of securing them is for me to flatter this guy, pat him on the back and get along with him so that I can manipulate him,’ ” Drozdiak said. Macron is “the ultimate pragmatist . . . that’s why he’s the only Western leader now with an open dialogue to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin,” as well as Trump.

The French look down their noses at media descriptions of a “bromance” between the French and U.S. presidents. “Macron is not the friend of Trump,” said the French official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss the relationship. “We don’t believe all this stuff about bromance, that they’re buddies.”

“Macron is doing this because he knows that he has to be close to our closest ally, the president of the most powerful country in the world. It’s in our interest to have a good relationship. He doesn’t go as a friend,” the official said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-macron-arrives-to-meet-trump-fate-of-iran-nuclear-deal-is-front-and-center/2018/04/22/797d5ad8-44bb-11e8-bba2-0976a82b05a2_story.html?utm_term=.91a6df75aaa8

[BannonsLiver]

46. Playing him by going along with his Syria gambit?

With enemies like that who needs friends. But seriously, that whole line of reasoning would hold more water with me if not for the air strikes. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but there are mixed signals.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

48. France has been the most hawkish of the EU members, so it's not surprising

that he'd take that position. The rest of it seems to be an attempt at manipulation through flattery.

[FakeNoose]

44. And you have a weird awkward handshake, Mr. President

[Tatiana]

45. As an American, I just hang my head down. Putin is getting a great laugh out of this.

I didn't vote for the POS, but he still represents us and this is just inexcusably trashy and low-classed.

[Kirk Lover]

47. Your response is so perfect it cannot be improved upon. Well done. nt