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RandySF

(59,205 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:08 PM Apr 2018

Judge: Cohen "likely to be indicted"

A federal judge ruled that a lawsuit filed by Stormy Daniels over an alleged “hush money” deal with President Trump and his attorney Michael Cohen will be put on hold for three months because of a criminal investigation Cohen is facing, Politico reports.

The judge said it appeared “likely” that Cohen would be indicted in connection with the ongoing investigation.


https://politicalwire.com/2018/04/27/court-grants-90-day-delay-in-stormy-daniels-lawsuit/

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Judge: Cohen "likely to be indicted" (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2018 OP
What all did Mueller (and the Southern Dist of NY) get from their raid? NightWatcher Apr 2018 #1
That was another Republican's mistress RandySF Apr 2018 #2
Yes, and "rawdog" is sort of gross and excessive. Her abortion covers that point without rzemanfl Apr 2018 #3
fixed NightWatcher Apr 2018 #5
The first time I saw that expression I had to look it up. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #9
Unless that guy was just providing cover for trump NightWatcher Apr 2018 #4
I've seen that guy's wife on the TV machine. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #8
THIS Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #21
And people need to remember Rump wants to PUNISH women and Dr's over abortion. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #7
Transference.....oh flail me, Lord ! OnDoutside Apr 2018 #12
Randy, did you see Avenatti's appearance on Morning Joe the other morning ? OnDoutside Apr 2018 #11
Or was it gibraltar72 Apr 2018 #16
He said that this Broidy guy was not named as a client in open court. I forget who he said but I Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #22
Maybe. Remember the subterfuge around John Edwards' pregnant mistress? A campaign aide tblue37 Apr 2018 #27
If Trump did pay a woman to abort her child. Blue_true Apr 2018 #10
It's long gone... Baconator Apr 2018 #23
They will offer the same excuse they offer for all his previous violations of all they supposedly tblue37 Apr 2018 #29
I know zip about the law, and I'm not proud of it, but I'm astonished to read that a judge Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #6
this judge won't be the judge in any criminal case against cohen unblock Apr 2018 #13
Yup jberryhill Apr 2018 #15
Thank you, un, it's all so strange to me! I sure appreciate your explanation! Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #18
Umm... Cohen is likely to be indicted jberryhill Apr 2018 #14
Many thanks for your reply here, jb!! Leghorn21 Apr 2018 #19
Is the inference from the search warrant that airtight? Jim Lane Apr 2018 #25
There were some redacted copies jberryhill Apr 2018 #26
Indicted is not convicted (yet). n/t eggplant Apr 2018 #20
Civil Judges do not mention such out loud, Iliyah Apr 2018 #17
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #24
I don't care if this sounds really bad but I Upthevibe Apr 2018 #28

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. What all did Mueller (and the Southern Dist of NY) get from their raid?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:12 PM
Apr 2018

I've heard rumors of a 1.6 million dollar payout to a playmate that trump made for an abortion of his child.

It could be that Cohen had proof of Russian money laundering via trump properties.

It could be a myriad of other things.

They are so royally hosed.

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
3. Yes, and "rawdog" is sort of gross and excessive. Her abortion covers that point without
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:21 PM
Apr 2018

embellishment being necessary.

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
9. The first time I saw that expression I had to look it up.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:33 PM
Apr 2018

That happens when you are old and out of touch. Thanks.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Unless that guy was just providing cover for trump
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:27 PM
Apr 2018
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/26/1760143/-Did-an-RNC-donor-take-the-abortion-fall-for-Trump-Daniels-attorney-drops-a-Trump-Tower-sized-hint

Remember how Cohen admitted to the payoff of Stormy by saying he did on his own? What if Elliott Broidy was only taking one for the team? Broidy was not mentioned at the hearing earlier this month as one of Cohen's 3 secret clients. One was trump co, one was Hannity, and the other one may have been trump (since he was working for him at the time).

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
7. And people need to remember Rump wants to PUNISH women and Dr's over abortion.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
Apr 2018

So do SIXTY MILLION of his FILTHY FUCKING sycophants.

While PROVIDING for abortions at the DROP of their socks when convenient.

gibraltar72

(7,511 posts)
16. Or was it
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:08 PM
Apr 2018

Avennatti alluded to it the other day. I thought he had made a mistake. He doesn't make mistakes. How about if they put Broidys name on that so no one knew it was Trump. Broidy could be blackmailing Trump. Or more likely being paid back for the solid he did. Check how many big dollar contracts including federal Broidy has gotten since Trump was elected.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
22. He said that this Broidy guy was not named as a client in open court. I forget who he said but I
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:48 PM
Apr 2018

think he said Cohen and Rump's lawyers put that out. Lordy, I'm glad there are tapes!

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
27. Maybe. Remember the subterfuge around John Edwards' pregnant mistress? A campaign aide
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:08 PM
Apr 2018

pretended for some time to be the father to cover for Edwards.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. If Trump did pay a woman to abort her child.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:34 PM
Apr 2018

And rightwing evangelicals continue to back him, the thin veneer that rightwing evangelicals have gets ripped to shreds. What do they have left that they are willing to overlook?

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
29. They will offer the same excuse they offer for all his previous violations of all they supposedly
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:10 PM
Apr 2018

hold dear: That was then; this is now. He has repented and no longer sins. (Pure BS, or course.)

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
6. I know zip about the law, and I'm not proud of it, but I'm astonished to read that a judge
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
Apr 2018

would say “likely to be indicted” out loud and in front of other people?!? Just seems as if that would be...untoward or uhh prejudicial or...just strange.

Anyway, GLAD TO HEAR IT!!!!

unblock

(52,317 posts)
13. this judge won't be the judge in any criminal case against cohen
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:43 PM
Apr 2018

cohen was asking for a delay of the civil case on the grounds that because he was under an indictment cloud, he would need to take the fifth during the civil case if it were to proceed now.

so the finding of him being "likely to be indicted" is needed before his request to delay the civil case is reasonable.

really, it's cohen who asked her to make that determination, in order to justify the delay.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Umm... Cohen is likely to be indicted
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:45 PM
Apr 2018

In order to get the search warrant in the first place, the probable cause affidavit had to lay out a very specific, clear, and strong reason to believe that Cohen had committed the crime alleged, and that evidence was likely to be found in the search.
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
25. Is the inference from the search warrant that airtight?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:18 PM
Apr 2018

I don't do criminal law, but I would think a search warrant could be issued if there's probable cause to believe SOMEONE has committed the crime, and that evidence might be found on the premises specified.

For example, suppose Cohen had loaned someone (a non-client) $50,000. The someone is suspected of having robbed a bank, making off with a lot of $100 bills. Law enforcement has reason to believe that, the day after the robbery, the someone visited Cohen's office and repaid the loan with a stack of $100 bills. Wouldn't that be a basis for a search warrant to try to find Cohen's bookkeeper's cash journal, recording the receipt of $50,000?

From what little I've read of Cohen's affairs, I'd guess it's more likely than not that he himself was a target and that he will be indicted, but I don't think that's absolutely necessary for the issuance of a search warrant.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. There were some redacted copies
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:33 PM
Apr 2018

The preamble to the details in the warrant application said that they had probable cause that Cohen had engaged in (redacted), or words to that effected.

It was a search premised on Cohen being the criminal. I’ll look it up later.

But for the purposes of this motion, his likelihood of indictment was his position.

Can you imagine a judge simply rubber stamping a warrant application for the search of a lawyer’s office? They don’t just hand those out like candy.

Upthevibe

(8,071 posts)
28. I don't care if this sounds really bad but I
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:08 PM
Apr 2018

hope with everything that's in me that he paid someone to have an abortion. Will the "so-called" Christians then finally sour on him?!?!?What will it take?????


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