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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe very story that some people are offended by the whcd jokes is bullshit.
there's nothing newsworthy about white house people getting roasted at an white house roast.
the reason it's a story is because the right wing wants it to be a story.
it accomplishes several things of significant propaganda value for the right wing.
1) it helps keep down criticism.
"now, now, temper, temper, you peons."
2) it keeps the focus on right-wing's feelings rather than on the actual criticisms.
"don't pay attention to her or what she said, pay attention to how offended we are!"
3) it normalizes this white house.
"see, it's all just politics as usual. we shouldn't get roasted any worse than any other administration."
4) **it establishes that there is a line of decency that others shouldn't cross by taking it for granted that one exists.**
"we can talk about sexual assault, make offensive and divisive comments all day long, break the rule of law, call for political opponents to be locked up, and all this must be respected as normal political rhetoric."
so while we are wasting our energy arguing about whether or not mild ribbing by a comedian at a roast is offensive, let's remember how donnie got his start in national politics.
donnie took the first black president of the harvard law review; an immensely popular and charismatic constitutional scholar who inspired millions; who quickly rose from community organizer to state senator to senator to president of the united states; and reduced him to second-class citizen based solely on the color of his skin, propagating the ridiculously easily disproved lie that he somehow wasn't eligible for office.
donnie has repeatedly reduced the world to black and white. not in the simple-minded binary choice sense, but in the racial sense. his main objection to obama was that he was black, and his principle talent appears to be that he is white.
everything about donnie and his rise to power and his control and support of the white nationalist agenda is so repugnant that the very notion that something a comedian could say at a roast could be offensive is itself highly offensive.
there is *nothing* a comedian could possibly say in response to this that would be offensive to the perpetrators of the white nationalist takeover of our government. they have stolen our community standards of decency and destroyed all sense of propriety.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,617 posts)There was also some butt hurt by the media. I guess they didn't like being called out on their complicity and hypocrisy. Too bad, so sad. Good for Michelle for not playing it safe.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)...can become the butt of jokes.
Nobody is immune from being attacked with the jokes at a this event.
Older readers might remember when Dean Martin used to host roasts. Here is an example;
Many roasts are available on YouTube":
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=comedy+roast
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,748 posts)The First Amendment lets people insult the president. While I didn't care much for Wolf's performance - it's not my favorite style of humor, so I didn't think most of her stuff was all that funny - that's entirely beside the point. The WHCD has become a kind of annual ritual roast, the whole point of which - a point that seems to be forgotten as we review the comedian du jour - is that it is a display of our freedom to offend and annoy our leaders, who, after all, work for us. A comedian is hired to deliver a monologue that can be more or less insulting and offensive to TPTB, which may, and should, include the media as well. It is supposed to be comedic in order to be entertaining, but if somebody just stood up and tossed off insults they could do that too, without fear of retaliation by the offended.
So those who were offended are free to express their offense as well. But they can't do anything else. It's all about the First Amendment, like it or not.