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Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:13 PM Apr 2018

Michelle Wolf referred to Huckster, Jr. as (an) Aunt Lydia.

I can't speak for other women but I've viewed conservative women as Serena Joys or Aunt Lydias (as well as Econowives) since 1985, when "The Handmaid's Tale" was first published.

Wolf's comments had nothing to do with how Huckster, Jr. looks and everything to do with how SHS props up and supports the misogynistic agenda of the "Commanders/Angels/Guardians/Sons of Jacob" (conservative men).

Her other comments had nothing to do with looks either. Wolf called a liar a liar. Shocking.

Wolf simply let loose a small portion (a very small portion) of the anger many women (myself included) feel about conservative women who support the oppression of women in the name of their own (supposed) "goodness" and (self) righteousness.

I loved the Aunt Lydia comment.





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Michelle Wolf referred to Huckster, Jr. as (an) Aunt Lydia. (Original Post) Solly Mack Apr 2018 OP
She compared her to Coulter also JI7 Apr 2018 #1
That was great too. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #2
What did the "dividing into softball teams" joke mean? oberliner Apr 2018 #3
I thought it a dig at the Press. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #4
It seemed like a dig on her appearance but I might have misunderstood oberliner Apr 2018 #5
Perhaps people inferred what wasn't implied? Solly Mack Apr 2018 #6
Could be oberliner Apr 2018 #7
I'm not on Twitter but from DU I gather a lot of people are discussing it. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #9
Media pitching "soft" (softball) questions to favored interviewees. Red team / Blue team. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #20
It was a phys ed teacher joke, not about softball questions. nt greyl Apr 2018 #29
The "white house media" is as soft as puppy shit in the face of FASCISM Achilleaze Apr 2018 #34
I agree. brer cat Apr 2018 #8
And they are cheering their own oppression. They forget that to a misogynist - they're still women. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #10
Agree absolutely Pepsidog Apr 2018 #11
Thank you. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #12
So on target dreamland Apr 2018 #13
And the press would rather push a poor Sarah narrative than deal with what Wolf said about them. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #14
I was surprised how many thought the jokes were about Sanders' appearance. betsuni Apr 2018 #15
Which says more about what they think about Sanders than anything Wolf said. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #16
Agree. betsuni Apr 2018 #17
Discussion elsewhere says maybe confusion between "burning facts" (Wolf said) and "burning fat" . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #21
Yup. I made that comment TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #26
Recommended H2O Man Apr 2018 #18
Thank you. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #19
Yeah, looks like most of the right wing is applying ice to the burn... backscatter712 Apr 2018 #22
Heh Solly Mack Apr 2018 #23
Thank you for your perspective, Solly Mack.. Cha Apr 2018 #24
Thank you, Cha. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #27
We know the US corporate/gopress by Cha Apr 2018 #30
Since when did 'perfect smokey eye' become an insult, America? Scurrilous Apr 2018 #25
Seriously. I can't do a smokey eye to save my life. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #28
Tweet from Michelle Wolf.. Cha Apr 2018 #31
It seemed all too plain to me what she said and what it meant. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #32
republicans adore Aunt Lydia's republican family values Achilleaze Apr 2018 #33
I've read where they are angry that they are seen that way since the series started. Solly Mack Apr 2018 #35
They are angry that the show makes the sickness of Achilleaze May 2018 #36
The denial is strong in that group. Solly Mack May 2018 #38
I like the DUers who share their opinions without having seen the video or read the transcript IronLionZion May 2018 #37
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. It seemed like a dig on her appearance but I might have misunderstood
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:02 PM
Apr 2018

With the whole "softball coach" implication.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
6. Perhaps people inferred what wasn't implied?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:09 PM
Apr 2018

There are times when people will take the associations they make and project them onto the speaker.

Now, sometimes, there is no doubt what people mean, eg dog whistles.

But I think Wolf meant that some in the press lob softballs. Also, SHS has a habit of making a point of who she (and her boss) thinks of as "fake news", eg - fake news team v. fox news (which SHS and her boss think of as an actual news station). When watching SHS in action I have noticed her attempting to divide the press into for Trump and against Trump teams, and it is obvious who she favors.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Could be
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:10 PM
Apr 2018

Interestingly, Maggie Haberman has been having a back and forth with some of her twitter followers on this very same question.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
34. The "white house media" is as soft as puppy shit in the face of FASCISM
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:23 AM
Apr 2018

they lob softballs. No hard reporting. They are scared that they will be "criticized" and lose their "special" white house "privileges."

Collectively, they are The KGOP Symps, Inc.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
8. I agree.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:16 PM
Apr 2018

She and other conservative women enable the misogyny and patriarchy that take away women's rights to their own bodies and lives. Their self-righteousness makes me ill.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
10. And they are cheering their own oppression. They forget that to a misogynist - they're still women.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:18 PM
Apr 2018

It's mind boggling.

dreamland

(964 posts)
13. So on target
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:38 PM
Apr 2018

The media prefers to listen to a vulgar man hawk fake news than a smart comedian who unveil truths, this is why tRump got elected.

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
15. I was surprised how many thought the jokes were about Sanders' appearance.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:41 PM
Apr 2018

Obviously the gist of the jokes was that Sanders is no friend to the truth or to women. Maybe because Sanders' looks are often commented on, people have that in their heads when she's mentioned and their minds immediately went there.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
27. Thank you, Cha.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:34 AM
Apr 2018

I guess it's easier for the Press to fret over SHS than it is to deal with their complicity re: Trump.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
30. We know the US corporate/gopress by
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:49 AM
Apr 2018

now.

cover for trump.. scold anyone who's against him with the truth.

It's a pattern for the lazy ass complicit press.. bring us bush bring, us War on Iraq.. bring us trump.

President Obama won 2 times in spite of them.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
25. Since when did 'perfect smokey eye' become an insult, America?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:02 AM
Apr 2018
Comedian Michelle Wolf was slammed by a wide range of commentators for commenting on the press secretary’s eye shadow. This is a storm in a teacup

<snip>

"If you’re not familiar with the common parlance of cosmetics, you might not know that ‘a perfect smokey eye’ is a very nice way to describe a woman’s makeup – glamorous, well-applied, nicely smudged. But on the morning after the White House Correspondents’ Association (WCHA) dinner on Saturday night, you might have thought otherwise.

Comedian Michelle Wolf was slammed by a wide range of commentators for saying just that about the press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, during her keynote roast: “I actually really like Sarah,” Wolf said. “I think she’s very resourceful. But she burns facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smokey eye. Like maybe she’s born with it, maybe it’s lies. It’s probably lies.”

“Watching a wife and mother be humiliated on national television for her looks is deplorable,” wrote MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski, overlooking the crucial fact that Wolf was in fact complimenting the appearance of Sanders’ makeup. Wolf was mocking the fact that Sanders is a liar. Which is something that she definitely is."

<snip>

"It’s a shame that those on the right have used the concept of ‘snowflakes’ as an insult against those who oppose them, because time and time again it’s clear that no one is more sensitive than the far-right who follow Trump in lock step and can’t take a compliment from the other side about eye-shadow."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/29/snowflakes-sarah-huckabees-perfect-smokey-eye

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
28. Seriously. I can't do a smokey eye to save my life.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:35 AM
Apr 2018

It's a good look for her but that doesn't make her any less a liar - and that's the point. She's a liar.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
33. republicans adore Aunt Lydia's republican family values
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:19 AM
Apr 2018

She's also worshiped as a role model for republican values, as is, of course, Dirty Donny* himself.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
35. I've read where they are angry that they are seen that way since the series started.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:22 AM
Apr 2018

Some have gone so far to say that they aren't the "bad" characters (the Serena Joys/Aunt Lydias, etc. from the show/book) - liberals are.

There is a disconnect there.

To say the least.

I gathered, from reading the article, that a lot of conservatives never read the book and it took the series to bring it to their attention.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
36. They are angry that the show makes the sickness of
Tue May 1, 2018, 07:31 AM
May 2018

their republican-style, right-wing christo-dominionism so starkly plain. They are anti everything that Christ taught.

IronLionZion

(45,462 posts)
37. I like the DUers who share their opinions without having seen the video or read the transcript
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:02 AM
May 2018

and come here in a moral panic and actually seem to think they are fighting the good fight.

DUers are an endless source of entertainment.

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