Women should submit to abusive husbands?

[left-of-center2012]

Southern Baptist leader pushes back after comments leak urging abused women to pray and avoid divorce

Paige Patterson is president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, a Fort Worth (Texas) school whose Web site says it is one of the largest seminaries in the world. Patterson ... is heard on an audiotape being interviewed about what he recommends for women “who are undergoing genuine physical abuse from their husbands ...

Patterson says “I have never in my ministry counseled anyone to seek a divorce and that’s always wrong counsel.”
He goes on to tell the story of a woman who came to him about abuse, and how he counseled her to pray at night beside her bed, quietly, for God to intervene. The woman, he said, came to him later with two black eyes. “She said: ‘I hope you’re happy.’ And I said ‘Yes … I’m very happy’ ” because it turned out her husband had heard her quiet prayers and come for the first time to church the next day, he said

Evangelical Christians have higher-than-average divorce rates in the United States, according to research by Baylor University, a prominent Southern Baptist school.

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. This "leader" is out of his mind and is wrong besides.

[peterflax]

2. compromise

compromise! unless its impossible to compromise you set your limits !

[left-of-center2012]

3. Compromise ?

This is about men who beat their wives.

[uppityperson]

5. Compromise with abusive spouses?

[marble falls]

7. I guess the two black eyes were icing on the cake. I wouldn't have prayed, I would have called...

the cops.

[uppityperson]

12. Come on, what's a couple of black eyes if it gets the man to go to church?

It's called the honeymoon period where the abuser does whatever they need to do to make the abused not call the police or leave. Flowers, tenderness, bandages, apologies, church, counseling, etc.

Sometimes people change but most often it's temporary or even just another manipulative ploy.

That pastor is contributing to emotional and physical abuse, assault. It's very difficult to have an abusive relationship without help and what that pastor is saying, doing, helps only the abuser.

[marble falls]

17. Violent men do not stop on their own, they do escalate. That preacher has a guilty conscience....

call it a hunch.

"If he doesn't go to jail then I don't have to go to jail."

[left-of-center2012]

8. It may mean nothing, but ...

I just noticed that the person who posted women who are abused should 'compromise',
has only that one post.

peterflax (1 post)

[backtoblue]

13. ...

Abuse is never a "compromise". What the hell is wrong with this picture?

[marble falls]

18. Means a lot. You can bet dollars to donuts a lot of people think that's unusual.

[IronLionZion]

14. Welcome to DU!

[marble falls]

19. To be clear: an abused person needs to compromise an expectation of safety with a ....

violent abuser acting out violently on the abused, is that what you meant to say?

There's no compromise. Someone most probably needs a restraint order taken out against what is 90% of the time a male partner. And then that someone needs to get safe. Don't change his/her mind about following through with an arrest of the abuser just because the Pastor says "Work on your marriage."

Seriously? Compromise?

Lives are at stake.

[mr_lebowski]

4. WHAT. A. DICK.

That is all ...

[alittlelark]

6. My own mother told me that my ex-husband was my 'boss'....

....cuz men are superior to women....... my own mother told me that.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. Say hello to a future paved the way by nose holders.

[malaise]

10. So the fact that this abuser came to church is more important

than the physical abuse to his wife.

These fucking people are mad.

[lunatica]

11. Fuck him

That is all.

[MineralMan]

15. Here's how I responded to that in the Religion Group:

"If thy husband smites you on the cheek, turn your head so that he might smite you on the other, for he is your husband."

(Note: this is a paraphrase of multiple verses from the New Testament, not a direct quote. If it had been a direct quote, I would have referenced the book, chapter and verse.)

That's where this kind of crap comes from. It must end.

[mythology]

16. Does submitting a complaint to the police count?

Otherwise nope.