Southern Baptist leader pushes back after comments leak urging abused women to pray and avoid divorc

[niyad]

(could somebody PLEASE explain to me why there are any women IN the southern baptist misogynistic circus0?

Southern Baptist leader pushes back after comments leak urging abused women to pray and avoid divorce
by Michelle Boorstein April 29 at 8:22 PM Email the author




Paige Patterson, president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, is pictured on Oct. 12, 2010. (Paul Moseley/Fort Worth Star-Telegram via AP)

The leader of a major Southern Baptist seminary issued a statement Sunday pushing back after a 2000 tape surfaced purporting to quote him saying that abused women should focus on praying and “be submissive in every way that you can” and not seek divorce. Paige Patterson is president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, a Fort Worth school whose Web site says it is one of the largest seminaries in the world. About 15 million people are part of Southern Baptist churches, the largest Protestant group in the United States. Patterson is slated to deliver the primary sermon — a high-profile honor — in June at the Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in Dallas.

Patterson, who declined to comment Sunday, is heard on an audiotape being interviewed in 2000 about what he recommends for women “who are undergoing genuine physical abuse from their husbands, and the husband says they should submit.” “It depends on the level of abuse, to some degree,” Patterson says. “I have never in my ministry counseled anyone to seek a divorce and that’s always wrong counsel.” Only on an occasion or two in his career, he says, when the level of abuse “was serious enough, dangerous enough, immoral enough,” has he recommended a temporary separation and the seeking of help.

He goes on to tell the story of a woman who came to him about abuse, and how he counseled her to pray at night beside her bed, quietly, for God to intervene. The woman, he said, came to him later with two black eyes. “She said: ‘I hope you’re happy.’ And I said ‘Yes … I’m very happy,’ ” because it turned out her husband had heard her quiet prayers and come for the first time to church the next day, he said.

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The author of that blog told The Washington Post that the tape has surfaced several times since 2000 on church watchdog sites. That author said it was published last week in light of “the new season” of the #MeToo movement and a “reckoning” that appears to be happening in society around abuse, the person said. The author spoke on the condition of anonymity because the person is no longer part of the Southern Baptist community and doesn’t want to become a central part of the story. According to the author, Patterson in the tape was being interviewed by the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, an evangelical organization that promotes the idea that men and women have different traditional roles. Efforts to confirm that with the council late Sunday were not successful.

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[Eliot Rosewater]

1. We know assholes like this guy exist, the problem is his position is shared

by prominent rightwing men all over the country, starting in the WH but not at all limited to that asshole.

[get the red out]

2. Fuck him

And fuck every piece of shit that thinks like him. He has that gloating white, patriatric, misogynist face. He looks like most white fucking Southern Baptist monsters. I keep saying white because, as a white woman in the south, I find black Baptists more sincere in their Christianity. I'll just say it, I live in Kentucky and white Christians just scar the holy SHIT out of me and have for many years.

[niyad]

4. a most important fact to point out, and thank you.

[bitterross]

3. The reason there is a Southern Baptist Convention is Slavery

They held out and supported slavery until the bitter end. Probably some of those fine people in Charlottesville were SBC members.

On Edit: So it's no surprise that they would also support women being submissive to the point of being killed by the man of the house. They have some screwed-up values.

[niyad]

5. still trying to understand the women in that swamp.

[get the red out]

6. stockholm syndrome

And it must be hard leaving when all your family and social network is committed to furthering that kind of thinking and demonizing anyone with a damned lick of SENSE and independence. A branch of my family is that kind of Baptist, they fear anyone outside their group, and want to keep that white male power in the group, and the conspiracy theories just roll out on some of their FB pages. I thank God or whatever that my Dad left his parents religion as a young man. The one he chose was kind of scary, but no where in the ballpark of what Baptists have become (or maybe always been, my Grandfather was such a sweet man, I might not have known what his religion was all about until I grew up).

[Angry Dragon]

7. He would never put up with the abuse