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Steve Schmidt on First Amendment and WHCD (Original Post) Gothmog Apr 2018 OP
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #1
I was just writing that at the ONE Place free speech is to be heralded and protected and Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #2
Yes, the quasi-apology was . . . peggysue2 Apr 2018 #3
Here is the tweet text the OP forgot to include Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #4
Just curious, Bernardo, but why do you keep saying that? Hekate Apr 2018 #7
Some people are blocked from Twitter, say at work. I get thanked for posting the texts. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #9
Ahh. I don't Twit, but the texts usually show up on my iPad screen. Thanks for explaining. Hekate Apr 2018 #11
Similarly for me. But posted text also means I (and many readers) save time & might skip Twitter. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #12
You do a great service KatyMan May 2018 #24
Thanks, Bernardo! That explains a lot. Glorfindel May 2018 #21
Sorry, but what's your point? PJMcK Apr 2018 #8
Some people are blocked from Twitter, say at work. I get thanked for posting the texts. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #10
As often is the case, Mark Twain was prescient central scrutinizer Apr 2018 #5
Steve Schmidt gets better and better Hekate Apr 2018 #6
PLUS he's a damn good writer-- intelligent and articulate ailsagirl May 2018 #22
yes, better and better dem in texas Apr 2018 #13
I am a complete proponent of Free Speech. Stonepounder Apr 2018 #14
Genius Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2018 #15
Damn Schmidt..... I almost like you now. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2018 #16
K&R! dchill Apr 2018 #17
SS strikes me as the kind of Replublican with whom you can have respectful disagreement and debate. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #18
I have come to respect Schmidt Gothmog May 2018 #20
Can't tolorate being laughed at. We laugh to his face, his oasis Apr 2018 #19
Dime Store Mussolini Firestorm49 May 2018 #23
Not Disagreeing With schmidt, But DallasNE May 2018 #25
I think it's called poutrage lunatica May 2018 #26
I Have Not Heard Of "Poutrage" Before DallasNE May 2018 #27
For this thread Gothmog May 2018 #29
preznit snowflake wants his safe space. preznit fat fuck can have a cow. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #28
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2018 #30

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. I was just writing that at the ONE Place free speech is to be heralded and protected and
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:49 PM
Apr 2018

is the place where everybody makes their living off of it but somehow the speaker does NOT have that right?

peggysue2

(10,833 posts)
3. Yes, the quasi-apology was . . .
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 07:56 PM
Apr 2018

a total cop out. During an evening where Freedom of Speech and the Press are honored, the very act of demurring to a bunch of serial liars and wannabe fascists is disgusting. The organizers of the event have learned NOTHING.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
4. Here is the tweet text the OP forgot to include
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:00 PM
Apr 2018

Steve Schmidt
‏Verified account @SteveSchmidtSES

The one thing no autocrat can tolerate, and this is especially true of our dime store Mussolini and his factotum, is to be Laughed at. Nothing cuts deeper than truth that pierces the lies and pretensions with laughter. Autocrats and their followers are always victims. Ask them.
29 Apr 2018

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42,760 Likes

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Steve Schmidt

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble; and to petition the government for a redress of grievances” 1/3
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Steve Schmidt
‏Verified account @SteveSchmidtSES

The first amendment protects the right of speech. That includes comics, reporters and plain old everyday citizens. There is no right in America to not be offended. The WHCD should be a celebration of the first amendment and its absolute indispensability to the American republic.
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Steve Schmidt
‏Verified account @SteveSchmidtSES

Trump has debased his office, our institutions and our culture. His top staffers are his accomplices in that debasement. They are certainly not victims and media executives should show absolute fidelity to the free speech rights of a comic whose work stands on its own merits
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Hekate

(90,717 posts)
7. Just curious, Bernardo, but why do you keep saying that?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:08 PM
Apr 2018

The OP is an extract -- not just this one, but all the others I have seen you chastising in recent days. I don't mind reading more, but why do you feel the necessity to tell someone they've "forgotten" something?

What am I missing?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
9. Some people are blocked from Twitter, say at work. I get thanked for posting the texts.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:16 PM
Apr 2018

It's a reminder to posters that it is a kindness.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
12. Similarly for me. But posted text also means I (and many readers) save time & might skip Twitter.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:25 PM
Apr 2018

Because of my setting Twitter blanks out a lot of video, makes stills of others, turns animated gifs into stills, and disables links on its site. Sometimes (rarely) I will turn cookies on momentarily to see something there.

If a poster can take 60 seconds typing or enhancing a post and save 600 readers 6 seconds each then that one minute reaps one hour of reward.

KatyMan

(4,200 posts)
24. You do a great service
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

Most people that have access to DU at work don't have access to Twitter, and it's very frustrating to not be able to read a tweet because it's blocked.

thank you!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
10. Some people are blocked from Twitter, say at work. I get thanked for posting the texts.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:17 PM
Apr 2018

It's a reminder to posters that it is a kindness to post the text as well as the link.

central scrutinizer

(11,652 posts)
5. As often is the case, Mark Twain was prescient
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:02 PM
Apr 2018

I use the last line as my sig line:

Will a day come when the race will detect the funniness of these juvenilities and laugh at them--and by laughing at them destroy them? For your race, in its poverty, has unquestionably one really effective weapon--laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution--these can lift at a colossal humbug,--push it a little-- crowd it a little--weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand.
- "The Chronicle of Young Satan," Mysterious Stranger Manuscripts

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
14. I am a complete proponent of Free Speech.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:44 PM
Apr 2018

However, folks need to understand that the 1st Amendment guarantee of 'free speech' means that the government can't prosecute you for speaking your mind. But... the right of free speech does NOT guarantee that there won't be repercussions form your 'free speech'. If you decide to cuss out your boss in front of co-workers, don't be surprised if you are fired. If you knowingly tell lies about someone you are subject to civil suits. If you play an on-line game and they decree no swearing and you decide to swear anyway, do go crying to your lawyer that your First Amendment rights have been violated.

And even if you are POTUS, the 1st Amendment won't protect you from defamation civil suits.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
18. SS strikes me as the kind of Replublican with whom you can have respectful disagreement and debate.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:39 PM
Apr 2018

From what I've read, he was genuinely chagrined and remorseful for what happened to America on his watch, so to speak. That being Sarah Palin, of course.

That he is starting to look like a liberal is more a matter of context and backdrop than a shift in his politics.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
25. Not Disagreeing With schmidt, But
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

The more I read about the WHCD flap the more I think it is grossly overblown. Wolf has been mischaracterized on much of this, including the convoluted "joke" about Sanders remarkable skill in applying eye shadow. Indeed, I think some in the press are smarting, not because of the Sanders comment, but because she took the press behind the woodshed for their role in bringing us Trump in the first place. The Sanders comment was just a handy vehicle for getting back at Wolf - egos being what they are.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
26. I think it's called poutrage
Tue May 1, 2018, 03:01 PM
May 2018

The feigning of outrage over some slight and pouting about it like a child. All, of course to deflect from what is really said. It’s from the urban dictionary.

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