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.99center

(1,237 posts)
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:35 AM May 2018

There's just a lot of shadiness around Avenatti

“THERE’S JUST A LOT OF SHADINESS AROUND AVENATTI”: MAGA WORLD IS NOT QUITE COMING TO TERMS WITH STORMY’S LAWYER’S LATEST BOMBSHELL

At this point in the Russia investigation, Trump’s allies in the conservative media are expressing a rather creative interpretation of events.

BY TINA NGUYEN
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/trumpworld-reaction-michael-cohen-russia-payments

The Fake News is working overtime,” Donald Trump tweeted early on Wednesday, the morning after the lawyer of his alleged porn-star mistress dropped a dime on the Russia investigation. All through Tuesday night, news outlets were running with stories detailing Michael Avenatti’s claim that a wealthy Russian oligarch, as well as several major corporations, had deposited millions of dollars in an account controlled by Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer. Though this bombshell raised new questions regarding the relationship between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, Trump’s interpretation was rather nebulous and predictable: “Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?”

Indeed, while CNN and MSNBC went into breaking-news mode, and the nation’s leading newspapers scrambled to reorganize the next day’s front page, Fox News and other bastions of Trump-aligned thinking insulated themselves in a comforting cocoon of ignorance, or apathy. “I think it’s pretty safe to say that a lot of the Trump world has willfully checked itself out of the news surrounding Michael Cohen,” Jared Holt of Right Wing Watch told me, surveying the fake-news landscape. “Trump world has paid even less attention to this recent development, aside from insinuating possible foul play in Avenatti’s acquisition of the records in question,” he added. “Rather than deal with the facts coming out of the investigation and reconcile with what it may all mean, they’ve chosen to look elsewhere. It’s pure cognitive dissonance.”

Fox News, in fact, was mostly on autopilot Tuesday night, with just one story about the Cohen bombshell on its Web site, near-total radio silence during prime time, and only a passing reference to the scandal the following morning on Fox and Friends. As ThinkProgress notes, the name “Michael Cohen” was never mentioned Tuesday night—not by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, or Laura Ingraham, who spent the majority of their programs hailing Trump for a giant series of accomplishments, tearing down former New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman, or revisiting the cultural impact of their new rap god, Kanye West. By Wednesday morning, the hosts of Fox and Friends had moved to giddily harping on the growing popularity of therapy goats. They spent 48 seconds discussing Cohen.

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The pro-Trump pundit and erstwhile conspiracist Jack Posobiec was similarly suspicious of Avenatti’s motives. “There’s just a lot of shadiness around Avenatti,” he told me, echoing an emerging talking point on the right. “How does he have bank files from Cohen? Also, the company is American-owned,” he added, referring to the investment firm that deposited half a million dollars in Cohen’s account. The firm, Columbus Nova, has previously been described as a subsidiary of Renova Group, which was founded by Russian billionaire Victor Vekselberg; Nova’s American C.E.O., Andrew Intrater, is his cousin. Nevertheless, Trump’s supporters have seized on the murkiness of the relationship between Vekselberg and Cohen to call foul on the insinuations that Democrats have been eager to make. When an attorney for Intrater and Nova released a statement asserting that the firm was owned by Americans, not Vekselberg, for instance, Townhall.com columnist Kurt Schlichter pounced. “Wait, the media is wrong? You mean Stripper Matlock didn't get it right?” he tweeted.


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There's just a lot of shadiness around Avenatti (Original Post) .99center May 2018 OP
I'm sure he's no angel RandySF May 2018 #1
he is an angel next to Trump and other republicans they support JI7 May 2018 #2
He's slick... not shady. Ellipsis May 2018 #3
I think he is smart...and those records are Cohen's ...there has bee pay for play .... Demsrule86 May 2018 #15
Why Even Post This? DarthDem May 2018 #4
My guess: Avenatti is being too effective gratuitous May 2018 #21
He volunteered for Biden and Obama Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #5
I'm not going to post a link to fox news, but they have an interesting explanation on this Victor_c3 May 2018 #6
They are questioning 20k of the 4.4 million KelleyKramer May 2018 #31
Exactly Victor_c3 May 2018 #33
Yep, and you can bet the house Mueller knows about more KelleyKramer May 2018 #36
Trumpoids have acknowledged the existence of the bank files. Nuff said. oasis May 2018 #7
Shady? MFM008 May 2018 #8
+1 dalton99a May 2018 #12
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey May 2018 #25
Kittens for breakfast?! MFM008 May 2018 #27
+1 nt jrthin May 2018 #26
so what he owes CelticWinter May 2018 #9
You deliberately removed the quote marks from the quote. Demit May 2018 #10
I believe subject lines automatically remove quotes Blue_Adept May 2018 #14
Didn't know that, thanks. I wonder why? Demit May 2018 #18
I believe it happens with certain types Blue_Adept May 2018 #19
It could be a feature on IOS Flaleftist May 2018 #22
thanks again :) Demit May 2018 #23
"quotations marks" or, as we say in the UK, 'inverted commas' Exotica May 2018 #20
I've got an idea MountCleaners May 2018 #11
They are so goddamn jealous. And afraid. dalton99a May 2018 #13
suspicious of motives? It is pretty clear Stormy is after Cohen and Trump...no need to invent Demsrule86 May 2018 #16
Smear the messenger. Guess they've got to try. LOL. Vinca May 2018 #17
The right wing fascists wingnut anti semitic racists JustAnotherGen May 2018 #24
Take a look around ya. .99center May 2018 #34
Definitely worth reading... Mike Nelson May 2018 #28
There is a lot of shadiness around T rump and co...let's get it straight... asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author goldenheart May 2018 #30
Even if he's maybe an asshole, he's an asshole playing Trump's asshole game wonkwest May 2018 #32
Trump runs sophomoric cons based on intimidation, Avenetti has been dealing with better con artists. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #35

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
15. I think he is smart...and those records are Cohen's ...there has bee pay for play ....
Thu May 10, 2018, 07:21 AM
May 2018

It may bring Trump down finally.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. My guess: Avenatti is being too effective
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:27 AM
May 2018

You can almost set your watch by it, when someone is being too effective in damaging the prevailing ethos. Something will be found and blown up into a "scandal" that blunts that person's message. It only works one way, though; folks like Roger Stone can never lose their media credibility, no matter what.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
5. He volunteered for Biden and Obama
Thu May 10, 2018, 03:17 AM
May 2018

Why shit on a patriot? So he owes taxes.... So does Trump and maybe even Bernie since he wants those taxes hidden

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
6. I'm not going to post a link to fox news, but they have an interesting explanation on this
Thu May 10, 2018, 03:33 AM
May 2018

It's not one of their headlines, you have to scroll down a little bit to find it, but there is an article titled "Cohen team says some claims from Stormy's lawyer are about other Cohens".

They are basically saying that some of the payments that are allegedly paid to Michael Cohen were actually made to a different guy named Michael Cohen in Israel and another guy named Michael Cohen in Canada. Avennati's records somehow got those guys names and data mixed up into the Michael Cohen that is trump's lawyer's records.

I'm going to call BS on the fox news claim.

-----edit to add------

found this on NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michael-cohen-says-stormy-daniels-lawyer-mixed-him-namesakes-n872871

so some of the claims that they have the wrong Michael Cohen are correct, but they are talking about deposits of $960 and $10,000 and stuff. NBC threw this quote in their article:

"Mr. Ryan’s submission on behalf of Mr. Cohen is baseless, improper and sanctionable," he said. "They fail to address, let alone contradict, 99% of the statements in what we released. Among other things, they effectively concede the receipt of the $500,000 from those with Russian ties."


So, the major point of release remains substantiated.

KelleyKramer

(8,980 posts)
31. They are questioning 20k of the 4.4 million
Thu May 10, 2018, 04:03 PM
May 2018

So because 20k is questionable, you are supposed to ignore the other 4,380,000.00 in bribes

It's all they have to cling to

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
33. Exactly
Thu May 10, 2018, 04:11 PM
May 2018

And this isn’t the info from Mueller, it’s from the lawyer that’s doing his own thing with Stormy Daniels. I’m sure Mueller and team didn’t make that mistake.

KelleyKramer

(8,980 posts)
36. Yep, and you can bet the house Mueller knows about more
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

I'm betting this $4 million is just the tip of the iceberg

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
8. Shady?
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:34 AM
May 2018

Compared to almost anything from the crime family
Maggot?
Do you realize he is about the only one standing up to maggot and his mouthpieces ?
Yes some grumble, but this guy is out there.
That's "shady"?
Him and a porn actress are all that's standing between
Maggot and him riding roughshod over the media.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. Hear, Hear!
Thu May 10, 2018, 02:11 PM
May 2018


At this point, I couldn't care less if he eats kittens for breakfast. As long as he is going after Trump and company hard and making their lives miserable, I'm a fan. He is the only one who seems to consistently continue to hammer away at them and he won't stop until he's got them. I'm tired of all the spineless "diplomats" on our side who don't want to upset the deplorables too much. To hell with them.

They are only going after Avenatti because is is effective.

CelticWinter

(1,399 posts)
9. so what he owes
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:06 AM
May 2018

taxes we cant even get dump-a-trump's tax records, probably because he has nothing, never had anything and bull shitted his way into Forbes.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
19. I believe it happens with certain types
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:13 AM
May 2018

because it ties back to some issues with scripting/hacking stuff. I've seen that in other forms where different types of quote symbols aren't allowed in subject lines.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
20. "quotations marks" or, as we say in the UK, 'inverted commas'
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:23 AM
May 2018

I never had that problem with subject lines

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
11. I've got an idea
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:51 AM
May 2018

Every time he says "fake news", I'm putting some money in a jar. The money will be donated to Democratic candidates or causes.

If everyone did this, maybe he'd STFU about "fake news".

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
16. suspicious of motives? It is pretty clear Stormy is after Cohen and Trump...no need to invent
Thu May 10, 2018, 07:24 AM
May 2018

motives. I hope she brings the pig in chief down...it would be so wonderfully ironic.

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
24. The right wing fascists wingnut anti semitic racists
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:52 AM
May 2018

Must be pissing their pants if this could even be a subject line at DU.

Good for Michael Avenatti - you got 'em on the run now!

.99center

(1,237 posts)
34. Take a look around ya.
Thu May 10, 2018, 04:17 PM
May 2018

The subject line isn't all that different from what's being posted on DU since the bribery scheme was exposed by Avenatti.

Response to .99center (Original post)

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
32. Even if he's maybe an asshole, he's an asshole playing Trump's asshole game
Thu May 10, 2018, 04:07 PM
May 2018

So I'm fine with it. I assume all lawyers are self-aggrandizing assholes. But, he's my asshole.

As long as he's not doing anything unethical. Because Republicans are searching hard to find anything to paint someone the bad guy. Something that will stick with people who don't pay so much attention. So I want Avendetti to be so clean we can host a buffet off his ass. If they get something on him, with how much he's in media, it will hurt us.

But for now, I like him on tv every night talking about the treason we're dealing with. He's tireless. We need more tireless fighters on our side.

TheBlackAdder

(28,210 posts)
35. Trump runs sophomoric cons based on intimidation, Avenetti has been dealing with better con artists.
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:03 PM
May 2018

He's probably dealt with all kinds of scammers and tricksters and has learned their finer crafts.

There are profiles to most court cases, and while people think their case is unique, it's really not.

Divorces fall into 8 profiles, and a seasoned divorce judge has seen each one probably a thousand times.

Trump is playing an amatueristic profile that worked in the 70s, but as with everything else, he fails to grow.

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