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The shit has hit the fan - Maxine Waters on Chris Hayes (Original Post) malaise May 2018 OP
What was she saying was scrubbed, exactly? Chris Hayes hasn't been doing a great job pnwmom May 2018 #1
Any suspicious activity reports concerning the shraby May 2018 #5
You need this malaise May 2018 #6
Right. I didn't understand she was saying that she had requested the same information pnwmom May 2018 #27
Now I understand the urgency of the raid on Cohen malaise May 2018 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #53
Exactly nt G_j May 2018 #58
Good suggestion! MyOwnPeace May 2018 #64
Explain...please...no cable ?? Stuart G May 2018 #2
Here you go any news channel you want.... Kirk Lover May 2018 #8
Thnx KL lunasun May 2018 #29
awesome! Thank you! jmbar2 May 2018 #39
I don't have cable either so pazzyanne May 2018 #54
When my cable was out this saved me...and it was thanks to another DUer who told me!! nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #55
I love the pay it forward philosophy. pazzyanne May 2018 #60
See link at #6 n/t malaise May 2018 #9
Details, if you please (n/t) PJMcK May 2018 #3
Waters sent request to MinuShit in regards to data being scrubbed about Cohen's accounts. MinuShit uponit7771 May 2018 #4
That plus this - the whistleblower report malaise May 2018 #10
What may have been scrubbed we're suspicious activity reports for KewlKat May 2018 #7
Ruh Ro Madouchein! nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #11
and there is a huge whistleblower report out this evening malaise May 2018 #12
The whole New Yorker story is here: The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #13
This is huge malaise May 2018 #16
Yeah, still trying to wrap my head around it. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #21
That's the best part malaise May 2018 #24
He is on a winning streak this year! BigmanPigman May 2018 #35
and they won't stop probing either. bdamomma May 2018 #61
He is doing what the GOP Congress won't do and BigmanPigman May 2018 #62
That lady Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #14
She was on this from January malaise May 2018 #18
"I LOVE IT"... Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #19
K&R... spanone May 2018 #15
Rachel on this now n/t malaise May 2018 #36
Did you see the look on her face when Hayes asked if she knew of a specific transaction, NightWatcher May 2018 #17
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! malaise May 2018 #20
Holy Crap! Zoonart May 2018 #22
She is one serious woman malaise May 2018 #25
There is much more incriminating information at the link... cynatnite May 2018 #23
How did they thinkk they could get away with this malaise May 2018 #26
Didn't Meuller start investigating Cohen's finances last year? B2G May 2018 #30
Banks have to have media backups Jarqui May 2018 #31
Thank gods for Rachel. I think my brain is full. Hekate May 2018 #32
Can't take much more breaking news malaise May 2018 #33
I know, I know! BigmanPigman May 2018 #37
It's the coverup that gets them C_U_L8R May 2018 #34
Keep on keeping on! raven mad May 2018 #38
Somehow they thought they could just do all these things, commit all these crimes, and -- poof? byronius May 2018 #40
Nice fkn rant 7wo7rees May 2018 #52
Even though it can probably be retrieved, it is scary that someone Ilsa May 2018 #41
Lawrence O'Donnell will follow up on his show w/a U.S. Treasury expert. oasis May 2018 #42
Watching malaise May 2018 #44
Is there any way the Dems can open up an investigation cbdo2007 May 2018 #43
Hope so malaise May 2018 #45
They are missing for one of three reasons Generic Brad May 2018 #46
I agree completely. B2G May 2018 #48
Mueller will not confirm or deny anything related to the investigation Generic Brad May 2018 #49
Yes I understand that. Nt B2G May 2018 #50
But can the NY prosecutor verify that the leaked documents are real? Honeycombe8 May 2018 #47
Yes indeedy Blue Owl May 2018 #51
LOL malaise May 2018 #59
Maybe they got burned up in Trump Tower fire.... flying_wahini May 2018 #56
Thought this was related to the Tim Horton video n/t hibbing May 2018 #57
There just HAS to be copies somewhere... mitch96 May 2018 #63

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
1. What was she saying was scrubbed, exactly? Chris Hayes hasn't been doing a great job
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:18 PM
May 2018

in follow up questions.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. Any suspicious activity reports concerning the
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:21 PM
May 2018

trump, his children, and a number other people. Mnuchin never answered her inquiry that she sent in January. Now the whistleblower came out.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
6. You need this
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:22 PM
May 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210622430

Additionally Maxine and Otherswrote to Treasury in January asking if stuff was scrubbed and all now they have not received a reply

Ronan Farrow will be on Rachel tonight

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
27. Right. I didn't understand she was saying that she had requested the same information
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

that the leaker is saying was missing. Wow

malaise

(269,182 posts)
28. Now I understand the urgency of the raid on Cohen
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:43 PM
May 2018

A crime was being committed - this is massive! Now I know why they are terrified.
If I were the Con I'd jump from the Tower

Response to malaise (Reply #28)

MyOwnPeace

(16,939 posts)
64. Good suggestion!
Thu May 17, 2018, 05:36 PM
May 2018

Oh, wait!

It really should be: "Kim Jong Un" says that "Little Hands" Orange Leader does not have the courage to jump from his own magnificent Tower!"

pazzyanne

(6,557 posts)
54. I don't have cable either so
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:23 AM
May 2018

this is an answer to my prayers. YouTube just isn't cutting it. Grateful for this very useful information.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
4. Waters sent request to MinuShit in regards to data being scrubbed about Cohen's accounts. MinuShit
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:21 PM
May 2018

... didn't reply and the person who SENT the issue to the ethics office thought data was being scrubbed.

My take

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
7. What may have been scrubbed we're suspicious activity reports for
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:22 PM
May 2018

Trump, and his associates, family campaign, etc. munchkin never responded to her letter she sent back in January.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
24. That's the best part
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:34 PM
May 2018

I'm betting that this was the reason for the Cohen raid - a crime was being committed hence the authorization.
This is a genuine kakistocracy. Criminals have seized the government.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
62. He is doing what the GOP Congress won't do and
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:03 PM
May 2018

what the Dems can't do. I love how he is playing the moron...very clever indeed! I think he is enjoying it too.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
17. Did you see the look on her face when Hayes asked if she knew of a specific transaction,
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:28 PM
May 2018

that led her to ask Mnuchin if he had been asked to destroy any evidence? She looked up and back and forth. She's hiding something. She knows of another specific event that she was warning them not to destroy evidence for.

This is Hilarious (aside from all the horrible terribleness and global instability )

Zoonart

(11,879 posts)
22. Holy Crap!
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:34 PM
May 2018

I love Maxine.
I have been swinging wildly from hope to despair. Tonight I have hope.
Maxine.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
25. She is one serious woman
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:36 PM
May 2018

Now we know the reason for the Cohen raid and the urgency surrounding it.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
23. There is much more incriminating information at the link...
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:34 PM
May 2018

There are several other copies of documents. The whistleblower seems to be in fear of his life because of the gravity of the situation.

Just wow!

malaise

(269,182 posts)
26. How did they thinkk they could get away with this
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:38 PM
May 2018

The Banks must have copies of said documents.

I am so happy tonight - the system is way bigger than these two-bit scumbags.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
30. Didn't Meuller start investigating Cohen's finances last year?
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:52 PM
May 2018

Is it possible they aren't 'missing' but not accessible via a normal search?

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
31. Banks have to have media backups
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:59 PM
May 2018

Deleting the data on the disk doesn't usually get the backup.
Transactions between banks have backups at both banks.
And there is cross referenced data files so deleting in one place does not get rid of everything.

If you know the parties involved, the monthly statement ins and outs have to balance - usually in more than one place.

This could be extremely bad news for Trump - it will raise many, many flags and none of them good.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
34. It's the coverup that gets them
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:15 PM
May 2018

That and the money trail.
Sounds like some very serious shit is going down.

byronius

(7,401 posts)
40. Somehow they thought they could just do all these things, commit all these crimes, and -- poof?
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:01 PM
May 2018

'We've seized control of the United States and there's nothing anyone can do about it' seems to have been the attitude of this administration and the Russian-kompromatized GOP congress.

Probably not thinking that right now too much. Well, only when they get drunk or whatever it is they do to get high, eating live frightened pigeon's brains or watching toddler death fights or hanging themselves by various genitalia.

But really. The 'United States' is not a 'thing' -- it's hundreds of millions of people. And at least half those people know what's going on here, pretty much. We all get it, even if the details aren't clear. The idea that the Trussians could just 'take control' of the country and then keep it, like's it's a hard asset and actually ownable -- like we're all programmable cogs or too frightened to fight back or -- what the hell are they thinking?

Good lord, what morons. History tells you EXACTLY what would have happened had they actually wholly coopted the democracy and civil order and all the democratic institutions and civil order and public media, ALL OF IT and the military as well.

What happens? Blood. Murder. Chaos. Collapse.

They just don't get it. There is no such thing as security without civil order. So what if you're able to pay for a thousand bodyguards? There will be millions of highly intelligent formerly free Americans thinking up a million ways to kill you. And guaranteed some of them are going to hired as those bodyguards quite on purpose. Jeez, there's a whole Jet Li movie about that. There's no safety without civil order. There's no peace. It's a precious, delicate mass state of being that goes dark primate five minutes after it's 'taken'.

Christ what a bunch of lunatics. And the Correction is going to be one hard-assed lesson for their entire tribe.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
41. Even though it can probably be retrieved, it is scary that someone
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:04 PM
May 2018

would try to edit a database in this way. The edit and deletion should be traceable to the person who did this, yet they thought they should attempt this. People are willing to break the law to protect this asshole in the white house, even though there is no personal relationship.

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
46. They are missing for one of three reasons
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:26 PM
May 2018

1) Trump had them removed. I think this is highly unlikely because if he had, that narcissist would have ensured the one on him related to the Stormy Daniels payment would have also been deleted. That was not done.

2) The GOP had them removed. Cohen had a lot of other LLC's and is still a GOP fund raising official. Do we really think he only did dirty deals for Trump and Hannity? The Republican party and some captains of industry who benefited in their quid pro quo bribery scheme certainly had the motivation to make this Hail Mary move.

3) Mueller's team had them removed. Since there are many law enforcement officials who would pull this data for Trump and the GOP, the likelihood of them knowing what Mueller has on them would help them better mount a defense. But with the records missing, the bad guys in power have no clue what the Justice Dept has on them. They are running blind and don't know when or if the long arm of the law is onto them.

I am sure reason #1 is out. I fear that reason #2 may have happened. I think reason #3 is what has happened. Judging by the responses of key Republican leaders over the next 72 hours - we will have our answer.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
48. I agree completely.
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:35 PM
May 2018

Especially given the fact Meuller has been looking at Cohen's finances since last year.

In which case, this whistleblower could be in some trouble. Why didn't he go to Meullers team in the first place rather than leaking this?

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
49. Mueller will not confirm or deny anything related to the investigation
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:40 PM
May 2018

He may very well have gone to them but not received the verification he was hoping for.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
59. LOL
Thu May 17, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

They're trying really hard to suggest Mueller has them - I don't believe a word of that crap.

flying_wahini

(6,659 posts)
56. Maybe they got burned up in Trump Tower fire....
Thu May 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
May 2018

I still believe that fire in T Tower, just hours before the raid on Cohens storage,
was involved in this.

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
63. There just HAS to be copies somewhere...
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:22 PM
May 2018

The bank in California? People who looked at it and printed it out in the office??
SOMEBODY!!
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