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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh my. Some of those shot in Santa Fe may have been shot in crossfire by police!!
Seems like every shooting is an argument against the NRA.
More guns in school. nOPE.
More cops to keep our precious children safe. nOPe.
Tell someone about odd dangerous behavior. nOPE.
Bullying is the issue. nOPE.
Damn less guns is the answer. And NO civilian should own semi autos. End of story!!
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Every time I have turned on CNN this afternoon/evening they have been covering the wedding.
Was there coverage of the shooting on Ana's show or Fredricka's?
boston bean
(36,223 posts)blur256
(979 posts)And all that nonsense... so over this.
Igel
(35,356 posts)when the kids are in the hall or behind thin walls.
On the other hand, the reports I've seen have said the police fired one round and the guy surrendered, so I assume the shot wasn't fired at the shooter ... that strikes me as odd. Or maybe the cop's bullet went wide. In any event, it means any "crossfire" is pretty much ruled out; plural victims of that one round are unlikely (but possible). The cop was hit by a shotgun blast (I assume the shooter was using buckshot and not a deer slug) and depending on the spread the shot (from the shooter) may have hit some students.
The police stopped this kid.
Reports are also that the shooter spared kids he liked and aimed for those he didn't like. It follows the "he was bullied" narrative, which was denied by various and sundry. Victims must always be pure and innocent, victimizers must have no redeeming traits or mitigating circumstances in a purely binary, polarized, black-and-white zero-tolerance world. It cuts down on thinking and calories expended.
Note that the event of a lockdown, kids are safer than if they're flooding the halls thinking there's a fire drill. In the event of a shooter, kids are safer if the administrators know it's an active shooter they're against and not a fire alarm. The first person I heard described as a "hero" probably wasn't. The first person I heard described as "useless" was. Because that's what was needed for the pre-set conclusion of a predetermined argument.
SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)What is with these young men/boys who think they're entitled to kill people because a girl/woman doesn't want to engage with them?
I'm really serious here.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)is unfair. "Enforced monogamy" is his solution. He shares it with Boko Haram.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)Let's think and act unlike the opposition that doesn't bother to because they know the media will give them a free pass for stupidity.
spin
(17,493 posts)firearms if it ever happens?
How many school shootings will occur between now and then?
Even if semiautomatic firearms are banned and confiscated a shooter could use a book bag full of revolvers to murder a lot of people. With practice and the use of speed loaders a revolver can be reloaded quickly. Pump action shotguns also can be fired and reloaded quickly.
On scene well trained armed security can stop a shooter faster then police summoned to the scene. Physically hardening our schools may prevent many shootings from happening. We must take measures now to reduce school shootings and argue about gun bans at some time in the future.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)especially in Texas
Turbineguy
(37,365 posts)to do nothing.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Did the shooter manage to not be shot?
I'm skeptical about this.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)How did so many American conservatives get so completely unhinged simultaneously?
Raine
(30,540 posts)there is no way to know, it will take retrieving the bullets and seeing whose gun they were fired from.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Not sure what is the point of it.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)They look nothing like bullets.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)This was a hardened target, at least according to the State of Texas. The cops in charge of protecting children got shot, too. Just like the dead children got shot. Its not the schools that are killing people: its the guns.
Guns dont kill people. People kill people. I learned that on October 1st, 2017, when a person with a gun in my hometown shot 600 people and killed 60 more in six minutes. People I know were killed, and people I know committed suicide afterwards. What the 82nd Airborne took on D-Day? Thats what people going to a country music concert on vacation have to worry about, and thats mostly because of the NRA.