Politico: "Bernie's army in disarray" Our Revolution flailing, poor fundraising, candidates losing

[stevenleser]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/21/bernie-sanders-democrats-2018-599331

The Sanders-inspired grass-roots group ‘Our Revolution’ is flailing, an extensive review by POLITICO shows, fueling cocerns about a potential 2020 bid.

Bernie Sanders’ top operatives formed “Our Revolution” after he lost the 2016 primaries to keep his army organized and motivated — and potentially prepare for another presidential run in 2020.

But an extensive review of the Sanders-inspired group depicts an organization in disarray — operating primarily as a promotional vehicle for its leader and sometimes even snubbing candidates aligned with Sanders. Our Revolution has shown no ability to tip a major Democratic election in its favor — despite possessing Sanders’ email list, the envy of the Democratic Party — and can claim no major wins in 2018 as its own.

The result has left many Sanders supporters disillusioned, feeling that the group that was supposed to harness the senator's grass-roots movement is failing in its mission. The problems have also fueled doubts about Sanders’ organizational ability heading into 2020, even after his out-of-nowhere near-march to the nomination two years ago. Critics of the Vermont independent had been worried he’d have a juggernaut-in-waiting to fuel a second presidential campaign, but that anxiety has faded after watching Our Revolution the past year and a half.
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This is what a Sanders Presidency would have looked like, to use some descriptors from the article: disarray, disillusioned, failing, flailing, problems, etc.

[Gothmog]

1. The local Our Revolution group attacked an Asian candidate

I was shocked by the actions of the local Our Revolution group http://www.indoamerican-news.com/local-democrats-infighting-attempts-to-smear-sri-kulkarni/

Like many other youngsters going through their tumultuous teen years, Kulkarni attributed the episode to youthful indiscretion, similar to what George W. Bush, Barak Obama and Bill Clinton experienced in their youths.

But Beaton, who is backing candidate Steve Brown in the primary, is throwing out all sorts of minor issues to sideline Kulkarni’s bid. He has challenged Kulkarni’s full name, his residency in the district, his voting record and even his registration application saying he wanted to run in Massachusetts.

Inspite of these diversions, the Indian American community as well as the rest of the South And East Asian communities are staunchly behind Kulkarni and they have shown it by the sheer numbers who have come to his events and are donating funds to his campaign, sensing a chance to have an Asian in Congress from the Metroplex. They came together last night, Tuesday, February 20, at Madras Pavlion to rally behind Kulkarni and push back against these charges.

Encouraged, Kulkarni is counting on their support. “We’re pushing back against this stigmatization and slander,” Kulkarni said. “The Asian communities need to come out and vote to get us over the top in the primary.”

From another article http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/texas-congressional-candidate-sri-kulkarni-acknowledges-teen-drug-arrest-youthful/article_54a39be6-1e55-11e8-8db1-6f520552146f.html

Doug Beaton, the leader of the chapter, warned Fort Bend County Democratic officials on Kulkarni's previously undisclosed past in a letter posted on social media, it said.

The letter suggested that Kulkarni, whose full first name is Srinivas, is running under an assumed name and that he had previously registered with the Federal Election Commission to run for a congressional seat in Massachusetts.,,,,

Fort Bend County's past Democratic chair, Don Bankston, a member of the party's state executive committee, said the attack on Kulkarni is off base and potentially slanderous, according to the report.

Again, I am good friends with the Muslim precinct chairs in my district. They are still pissed as this attack.

[stevenleser]

3. I'm not surprised. This is what we have seen from those folks. They immediately datamine all

political opponents social media and news articles and try to use what they find to attack them.

It's a very Stalinist approach to politics and they don't see that they are doing something wrong. They think this is the right way to behave in politics and Sanders and his folks have not discouraged this behavior even though it has to have come to his attention multiple times.

[dalton99a]

9. +1.

[emulatorloo]

12. In other words, scorched-earth campaigning.

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. If only a FRANK and OPEN discussion of what is really going on was possible

[Gothmog]

79. I am happy

Link to tweet

[samnsara]

28. info on how we can donate to your friends campaign?

[Gothmog]

45. Here is a link to campaign website

https://www.kulkarniforcongress.com/

[ehrnst]

31. Wow. (nt)

[Sophia4]

40. Our local Bernie club endorsed an Asian.

But I just received a campaign ad attacking the Asian candidate for governor of California. It was not printed and mailed by Bernie supporters. I don't know who printed and mailed it, but it is vicious.

Let's reduce the amount of negative advertising in campaigns overall. I'm not surprised that Muslim precinct chairs in your district, Gothmog (of whom there must be many in Fort Bend Texas), would be upset about this.



As of the census[20] of 2000, there were 354,452 people, 110,915 households, and 93,057 families residing in the county. The population density was 405 people per square mile (156/km²). There were 115,991 housing units at an average density of 133 per square mile (51/km²). The racial or ethnic makeup of the county was 56.96% White (46.21% White Non-Hispanic), 19.85% Black or African American, 0.30% Native American, 11.20% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 9.10% from other races, and 2.56% from two or more races. 21.12% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. Other self-identifications were 8.8% of German ancestry, 6.3% American and 5.8% English ancestry according to the 2000 United States Census.

In 2006 Fort Bend county had a population of 493,187. This represented a growth of 39.1% since 2000. The county's racial or ethnic makeup was 53.96% White (39.63% White Non-Hispanic), 20.88% African American, 14.77% Asian, 0.51% Native American, 7.73% other races and 2.14% from two or more races. 22.88% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 23.82% of the population was foreign born; of this, 50.24% came from Asia, 37.17% came from Latin America, 5.74% from Africa, 5.28% from Europe and 1.57% from other parts of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Bend_County,_Texas#Demographics

[Gothmog]

44. CD 22 is very diverse which is why Sri is a good candidate

Link to tweet

From the NYT article

Richard Murray, a professor of political science at the University of Houston, told me to keep an eye as well on the 22nd District, a largely suburban swath of the Houston area that he described as a microcosm of demographic changes that are making the state ever more hospitable Democratic turf.

“The suburban counties that led Republicans to dominance here 25 years ago are getting significantly less Republican fast,” he said, adding that Fort Bend County, in the 22nd, is roughly 20 percent Asian-American now. The first-place finisher in the district’s Democratic primary, Sri Preston Kulkarni, is Indian-American. Murray said that if Kulkarni wins his runoff, that could be a significant boost to Democrats’ chances to nab this House seat.

[Hekate]

56. They lost me for good when they attacked Dolores Huerta, farmworkers & civil rights icon...

She and Cesar Chavez lived their lives for the cause, and the young pups who disrespected her and shouted her down -- what have they done in their lives?

And so it went in Bernie's "revolution" -- tossing real heroes to the curb, running over women and POC. I had some pretty bad fights at Democratic Underground over the vile treatment of Huerta, and none of the Bernie fans ever admitted it was wrong.

Bernie Sanders is a professional scold -- he's awfully good at it. But did he ever scold his followers for anything? No, never.

[Gothmog]

64. The article cited in the OP shows that the Our Revolution ignores Hispanic candidates

This is consistent with how the Sanders people treated Huerta (who is a living legend in my opinion). I would prefer to have Congressman John Lewis or Delores Huerta on my side compared to Nina Turner

[Cha]

84. Right! Two stalwart icons

working a lifetime to bring people together for civil rights!

[Fullduplexxx]

2. Lol

Board members and Sanders presidential delegates from 2016 have raised questions about whether the group’s president, Nina Turner, is using her position to prepare for a presidential run of her own, and to settle scores with the Democratic National Committee from 2016. 

[Cha]

4. Ooooh!

[Me.]

6. Right?

[Me.]

5. Insane...Right

Thank goodness the truth is finally coming out about Nina and OR

[Cha]

7. I know.. I was

just on the other thread about this.. saying that what I've read about Nina and OR since they've been on my radar makes it easy for me to believe this. Now it's more out in the open in one article.

Bet Nina's not happy there's leaks.

[Me.]

10. I Could Care Less If She's Not Happy

she's been so miserable where Dems are concerned and I'm not surprised in the least that she'd pick an assistant who supports Comrade Trump.

[Cha]

15. Not surprised.. still it's cray!

Mind boggling. Anything to stick it to Dems.

[mythology]

18. And it would be just as valid to point out

That some here are still trying to settle scores on both sides of the Clinton Sanders divide.

[Sophia4]

42. Good point!

Negative political advertising by Democrats is nothing new.

[Cha]

71. No, it isn't.. it has nothing to do with

the reality of what is happening right now.

[Cha]

70. No, once again you're trying to bring the

past into what is happening right now in 2018.

It's not working.

[Maven]

21. In other words, she wants to be a spoiler and give Trump a 2nd term

Yes, the idea of her as a credible candidate is laughable, but we should be on guard. Turner and Our Revolution are treacherous.

[Lil Missy]

80. I never did like her. She was always so LOUD. Big turnoff.

[stonecutter357]

8. K&R !

[Cha]

16. Good Morning, stonecutter

[BannonsLiver]

11. What a great way to start off the week!

I

[MrsCoffee]

13. A clusterfuck of vindictive narcissists.

Now I understand why they define losing as winning. It's all about the damage they can cause.

[Greybnk48]

14. This is so silly and childish.

My whole family backed Bernie as did many of my friends and neighbors. We bought t-shirts!

Then when Hillary won the primary, we backed her.

We have no frucking idea who people are talking about with "My Revolution." I gave a couple hundred dollars to Bernie's campaign and I'm a known donor and have NEVER received ONE email or flyer asking to support "Bernie's" new group. No a peep from them.

Such childish bullshit.

[stevenleser]

17. Hard to tell where you are coming from with this post, but here is what is not childish...

"Our Revolution" was touted as an upcoming major force in Democratic/Progressive politics when it was launched shortly after the 2016 election, so discussions about its fate are appropriate.

[Greybnk48]

19. I agree. Discussions are appropriate. But obsessing

about the last cycle, and attacking lifelong Democrats who supported him two YEARS ago is absurd, quite frankly. I'm not saying you are, but some are, and it is obsessive at the very least. And it happens on ALL of the Bernie posts, that themselves seem unnecessary at this point. The group "My Revolution' is not on any Bernie supporter's radar that I know of, but maybe we're out of the magic loop.

We criticize Trump all the time for not being able to get past his election with Hillary and still getting the crowd's to chant "Lock Her Up" to this very day. It is clearly insane! There are some anti-Bernie's who sound similar.

[stevenleser]

20. We're living with the disastrous product of these people's machinations so I would hardly call it

obsessive or a refight of 2016.

This is very here and now, and the ill effects are serious.

[Greybnk48]

22. Like Jill Stein and the Green Party? And Russion

espionage that flipped my State of Wisconsin? And we're fucking discussing Bernie's grassroots campaign of 2 years ago? Sound like a shiny object to me.

And yes. I'm terrified! About the rule of law collapsing, elections being cheated, in my state for years, Russian bots and hackers, and malleable people being easily manipulated. But NOT of Bernie Sanders. He's a good man and should not be vilified while REAL villains are flying under the radar. Again, Jill Stein for one.

[DemoHack]

24. He might be a good man, but he's not a Democrat.

Which is fine in life. That's not a knock.

In partisan politics though, it's different. Jeff Flake is a good man, but I'd never vote for him.

[Greybnk48]

30. Flake is a Republican. Positing a false equivalency is

disingenuous, to be polite about it. You have made my point.

[DemoHack]

47. Sanders is not a Democrat.

I reject your premise, that a person's politics make them "good." That's something the Religious Right does: "Donald Trump must be a good person, because his politics are the same as mine."

You missed my point completely. I don't equate how "moral" a person is based on their stance on the farm bill or the flat tax.

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. FINALLY yes, here and now, NOT BACK THEN, if this SHIT only happened BACK THEN

I would go on to other things.

I hate that I predicted and warned of this but I did.

The EXACT shit that happened before is happening now yet you and I better be FUCKING careful what we say



I am angrier than that many banged heads.

[DemoHack]

23. Good. It's the Green Party 2.0.

And if you supported Sanders... he's going out of his way to remain unaffiliated with it. What does that tell you?

Another Green Party. Nina Turner is running for president, 8 years of Donald Trump.

[sheshe2]

68. Well, no.

And if you supported Sanders... he's going out of his way to remain unaffiliated with it. What does that tell you?

You don't separate yourself then become the headliner for their campaign 03/10/2018. That was just over 2 months ago. Their next stop according to Sanders is Lubbock. This is not a separation. This is full throttle support.


Bernie Sanders/Our Revolution in Texas


Gunnar Thomas
Community
Saturday March 10, 2018 · 2:52 PM EST

Finally, the headliner, Bernie Sanders, came on to a long standing ovation. In his speech, he highlighted how progressive ideas had become more mainstream since the election: the idea of expanding Social Security benefits, of local initiatives to make public higher education tuition-free, of state ballot referendums that decriminalize marijuana use to roll back the failed war on drugs, and of the new push for sensible gun laws followed by the events in Florida. He mentioned that of 29 candidates endorsed by Our Revolution, 17 won their primaries (9 won outright, 8 move on to runoffs). Like Nina, he said that we needed to view Trump voters differently from how they are often portrayed. He emphasized that candidate Trump continually told voters that he felt their pain, that he was going to bring jobs back to the laid off, put in something even better than Obamacare, and many other promises to look at for working folks. The problem with Trump’s great speeches, as Bernie summed it up: “he lied.” He noted that the next Our Revolution event, planned for Lubbock, had already seen its 1,000 tickets already reserved (the event, like this one, is free but requires a reserved ticket). Lubbock is deep red, but as Jim Hightower noted in his speech, they voted for him twice, and people even in deep red areas are hungry to talk about real solutions to the problems we face.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/10/1748015/-Bernie-Sanders-Our-Revolution-in-Texas

[MrsCoffee]

92. Just yesterday he was hyping them on Facebook:

“The future of Our Revolution is uncertain. It faces powerful opponents, negative press and some self-inflicted wounds. Still, the intense establishment and media backlash against Our Revolution -- coupled with success at the ballot -- suggests the organization just might be doing something right.”

He is not unaffiliated in anyway. They are exactly what he wants them to be.

[sheshe2]

93. Lol

Still, the intense establishment and media backlash against Our Revolution -- coupled with success at the ballot -- suggests the organization just might be doing something right.”

Success at the ballot?

[MrsCoffee]

94. I know, right?

[ucrdem]

25. He could have shut it down and shared his mailing list two years ago

but he didn't. He could also shut it down right now. But I don't think he will.

[Me.]

51. Nor Will We Ever See His Tax Returns

I would love to know why

[Eliot Rosewater]

55. And why dont ALL of his supporters want to see them?

Can you

I M A G I N E

if either Hillary or Barack or Kennedy or Kamala refused?

[Me.]

61. Maybe They're Afraid

Just saying

[progressoid]

63. Obama held on to his email list until late in 2015.

It's not like he could use it for his third term run. The DNC and the Clinton campaign would have loved to have had access to it a lot earlier.

He did finally turn it over though... after a deal was struck to form a joint committee tasked with paying off the Obama’s nearly $2.4 million campaign debt. That was nice.

[samnsara]

26. i feel it was a knee jerk reaction to the politics of the day...

...full of passion in the beginning but not much substance or real momentum. I have members of my family behave in this manner. They are SO passionate about a subject and react quickly only to have it burn out quickly.

To quote Edna St. Vincent Millay — ‘My candle burns at both ends;It will not last the night;But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends—It gives a lovely light!’

[Kurt V.]

27. Don't give a hoot about our revolution.

but Sanders taught us a lesson on messaging and i can only hope the 2020 dem. Presidential nominee isn't afraid to be aggressive and even a little outrageous when necessary.

[DemoHack]

48. Joe Biden.

[Plucketeer]

29. How does that line go?

Something like "The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!" Said demise ain't for lack of tryin' on DU

[gratuitous]

32. Oh good, back to a comfortable narrative: Democrats in Disarray!

It really discombobulates the political press to have to cover the complete inability of Republicans to hold a government together and get anything done except craven obeisances to their wealthy overlords. "Democrats in disarray" and "Oh, those hapless libruls!" are so much more familiar, so much more comfortable. This narrative easily translates to the rest of the party, and Democrats can look forward over the next 4½ months to explaining how, in reality, they're quite unified and have a cogent, coherent platform. If the political press ever paid the least bit of attention or could tear themselves away from their security blanket of the familiar.

Luckily for the political press, the Republicans are quite happy to see them concentrate on the difficulties of a tiny minority on the left. And there are plenty of Democrats who will gleefully pile on, then come September or October wonder why the press narrative is still so stuck on "Democrats in Disarray," instead of reporting on what the Democrats have to offer voters. (Spoiler alert: It's because you're helping them set the narrative now.)

[tammywammy]

33. Democrats aren't in "disarray", Our Revolution is.

There's a difference. Our Revolution candidates are losing to Democrats.

[gratuitous]

35. Just watch

The problems of Our Revolution will be imputed to the Democratic party as a whole. You can bet that Republicans will seize on OR's problems, and be able to say truthfully that other Democrats are noting those problems. We'll get to spend a lot of time in the next several weeks explaining the difference, while the media retreat into their safe space of a familiar narrative. The nuances and the subtleties that OR isn't the Democrat [sic] Party will be plowed under in the haste to repeat their favored story.

[leftstreet]

34. Reminds me of Obama's "Internet Army"

A massive social media force that basically disappeared in a short time

People lose enthusiasm, etc

[zipplewrath]

58. Several of these

We heard similar things after Ross Perot and also after Rand Paul. They don't really last too long. For one thing, an awful lot of the "enthusiasm" is usually about having some other choice. Once that incentive is gone, the interest tends to wain.

[sunRISEnow]

36. "near-march to the nomination" That did not happen. By Super Tuesday, Bernie was done.

[wallyworld2]

37. KARA!

Last Tuesday, one of the biggest, most exciting and meaningful victories for progressives was Kara Eastman's win in the Nebraska Democratic primary. She beat Blue Dog and DCCC endorsee Brad Ashford 20,239 (51.43%) to 19,113 (48.57%). ​

It was another case of local Democrats slapping down the DCCC for their pig-headed interference in a local primary. The DCCC attempted to gaslight the district-- that voted overwhelmingly for Bernie in 2016-- telling them they needed to nominate a proven reactionary, "ex"-Republican instead of a woman who ran on many of the same issues that made Bernie so attractive to local, 2nd District Democrats.

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/05/kara

[tammywammy]

39. As noted in the article, Our Revolution didn't endorse Kara Eastman

And in Nebraska, Kara Eastman, who was backed broadly by progressives, upset former centrist Rep. Brad Ashford in a House primary. Our Revolution skipped that election as well.

[DemoHack]

49. Kara Eastman was not endorsed by Our Revolution.

Oh and an aside, this is Omaha, Nebraska and centrist Ashford would have been the better general election candidate. It went for Obama '08, then Romney and Trump. The odds of this being a Dem pickup dropped significantly.

[wallyworld2]

50. It's time for change

Endorsing republican light isn't working anymore
Even people in red states are wanting real, genuine change.
Just because Bernie did or didn't do something, does not change what he has inspired.
People are not looking for middle of the road Democrats
They are looking for Democrats that will actually represent them.

[tammywammy]

54. The article was specifically about Our Revolution.

You referenced a progressive candidate that won that wasn't endorsed by Our Fevolution.

Bernie started Our Revolution. Our Revolution isn't doing squat to change anything - as the article pointed out. If the inspired Bernie supporters were that wedded to Our Revolution their endorsed candidates would be doing better.

[DemoHack]

59. Nope.

We're the Big Tent Party. Or at least we used to be. We welcome all. Bernie-types wouldn't win in western Pennsylvania, Alabama, or Virginia. Centrists and traditional liberals like Doug Jones, Conor Lamb, and Ralph Northam did. Far Left is never a winning formula.

[Demsrule86]

67. So now you will get a real Republican...so enjoy.

What you all won't accept is that there are states and districts where Republican lite is all you get. And when folks like our revolution field candidates that are not suitable for the district or state, we lose every time. This is why we can't have nice things...Imagine if the left had President Obama's back in 10 instead of crying about the lack of single payer...six years of a Democratic president and house and most likely the Senate as well. It makes me sick to think about our many lost opportunities.

[Cha]

85. "Republican light" is such a passe, inaccurate

insult. They are Democrats who vote according to what their constitutes want, depending on what part of the Country and State they represent.

The repubs are all trumpshites now.. except maybe a few.

[betsuni]

87. Is that a poem?

Your poem is wrong.

[zentrum]

38. Sure is hard to

…challenge the Establishment.

[comradebillyboy]

43. Given the choice between Our Revolution and the 'Establishment'

I'll go with the establishment every time.

[Cha]

69. I love the Establishment! John Lewis, Planned Parenthood..

all those "established" Dems who are fighting for us.

[ehrnst]

75. Especially if the Establishment makes it possible for your founder

to actually win a race in his home state.

[mac56]

41. Having fun with this?

Good.

[Azathoth]

46. Regardless of Bernie himself, this is the same story every campaign cycle

One or more candidates always declare they will keep their "grassroots army" together for the next presidential election. It never happens. Election movements are the product of a zeitgeist that only exists in one specific election. They are built around one particular candidacy and don't survive past election season, and they never become the candidate's army-for-hire that he/she can send out to win midterm races and legislative debates for other people.

[HenryWallace]

57. Wowzers

----------------------
"This is what a Sanders Presidency would have looked like, to use some descriptors from the article: disarray, disillusioned, failing, flailing, problems, etc."

I suspect we will get a chance to see how your prediction plays out ....

(and from the timing, tone and lack of depth of this article, so does its author).

PS: Thanks for not listing "fueling cocern" as one of your descriptors (I think it might be Politico's staff and editors who are in disarray, dis.....)
[link:|]

[politicaljunkie41910]

60. What this says to me is that running a major party is hard work. The Clinton's and the Obama's made

it look like organizing, raising money, campaigning, and holding it all together look easy; but the truth is it's a helluva lot of hard work. Lots of people want to be president, but fewer people understand what it takes to organize and smooth over bruised egos, in order to put in the behind-the-scenes effort it takes to organize, maintain, and get behind a party and a platform, if you want to win. While our party is bitchin and moanin over who shot John when, Trump is creeping up in the polls and more people each day are satisfied with the job he is doing running the government. (Note I didn't say these were smart people.) Trump and Guiliani are controlling the narrative (because Mueller is a professional and can't) and Trump's fake media is succeeding in trying to normalize his behavior. Come on Dems, let's get our act together.


"I don't belong to any organized party; I'm a Democrat".
Will Rogers

[stevenleser]

62. I'd paraphrase that as, the complaints about the Democratic party from the peanut gallery are

pretty close to worthless.

[Eliot Rosewater]

65. I participate on a much smaller version of DU and I know this very progressive person

who said we simply have to remove Nancy as a leader because under Nancy, blah blah blah.

I responded by simply saying "sigh" because at THIS point if I STILL have to explain things to this person, then it is too late and nothing this person is told will matter.

This is someone who otherwise is very active in the party, sadly their activity is to primary all mainstream democrats or to attack the leaders, and when I point out NOW is not the time for that, they ignore me completely.

It is maddening and if we fail THAT will be why.

[Progressive dog]

66. If people want to change the Democratic

party, they first have to pretend to like some of its present leaders. It's doubtful that they can destroy the party but that outcome is more probable than them taking over the party.

[UTUSN]

72. Who is this "our/us/we"?!1 I am a Democratic Party member/voter.

[Gothmog]

73. Our Revolution and DACA

Link to tweet

[KG]

74. I lulz'd

[R B Garr]

76. LOL! Look at the Nina vs. Bernie wars starting...

Disarray indeed. Divisiveness marked by infighting -- or vice versa, wow, does that sound familiar!

[R B Garr]

77. Fifteen minutes are almost up!

Quote from article:

"Our Revolution has shown no ability to tip a major Democratic election in its favor — despite possessing Sanders’ email list, the envy of the Democratic Party — and can claim no major wins in 2018 as its own."

[Gothmog]

78. Two candidates opposed by Our revolution won in Texas

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Cha]

83. Good on these Dems winning

their Primaries!

[Hortensis]

86. And OurRev only endorsed Moser, who lost, AFTER

the DCCC, feeling she was a particularly weak candidate who'd lose us this house seat, tried to knock her out. OurRev otherwise felt only ONE candidate deserved their endorsement for normal reasons, who also lost. Of course. They decided Gina Trevino, who supports single payer, needed to be opposed by a candidate who was too weak to possibly win.

They should take a clue from Bernie Sanders. He seemingly got tired of seeing the tiny sprinkle of candidates he approves mostly lose, so he upped the wins he could claim for himself by endorsing some of our good Democratic candidates. Whatever works for us, as long as it does work.

[betsuni]

81. K&R

[JCanete]

82. why is that what the presidency would have looked like? According to what?

[stevenleser]

89. Inability to manage something to be effective and avoid disarray

Would only get worse as the level of responsibility increases.

Of course you can make the superficial argument that Bernie doesn’t directly manage OR, but we all know this is his organization.

[JCanete]

90. it isn't his organization, because he can't be involved at this point can he?

[R B Garr]

91. Is this the new line?? Our Revolution isn't successful, so it isn't Sanders'

organization. Really??

[Gothmog]

88. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet