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no peace talks because of "anger and hostility"? rofl! how pathetic! (Original Post) unblock May 2018 OP
A classic case of PROJECTION ollie10 May 2018 #1
How Kim-Trump tensions escalated: The more the US said 'Libya,' the angrier North Korea got dalton99a May 2018 #2
sometimes it's hard to tell if they really are that inept or if unblock May 2018 #5
If the US had been threatened with the "Libyan Model" we would have been livid! nature-lover May 2018 #11
It was like a junior high break-up letter. Poor Don. Vinca May 2018 #3
That's exactly what I was thinking. Dave Starsky May 2018 #10
I know! I can't believe this was a letter coming from the President of the United smirkymonkey May 2018 #12
His letter to Kim Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #4
to donnie, all manner of angry and hostility is completely appropriate macho moral patriotism unblock May 2018 #6
Good point Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #7
Good point ExciteBike66 May 2018 #8
That Nobel Peace Prize just went bye bye! Initech May 2018 #9

dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
2. How Kim-Trump tensions escalated: The more the US said 'Libya,' the angrier North Korea got
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:40 AM
May 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2018/05/24/the-more-pence-and-trump-say-libya-the-angrier-north-korea-gets/
How Kim-Trump tensions escalated: The more the US said ‘Libya,’ the angrier North Korea got
by Rick Noack | May 24 at 10:35 AM

If you’re serious about peace and denuclearization, maybe don’t mention Libya. That appeared to be the message North Korea had for the United States once again on Thursday when Pyongyang lashed out at Vice President Pence, calling him a “political dummy,” hours before Trump canceled an upcoming denuclearization summit in Singapore scheduled for June 12, citing “open hostility” by North Korea.

“As a person involved in the U.S. affairs, I cannot suppress my surprise at such ignorant and stupid remarks gushing out from the mouth of the U.S. vice president,” Choe Son Hui, a North Korean vice foreign minister, had said hours earlier.

The remarks came after Pence brought up Libya as an example of North Korea’s possible fate in a Fox News interview on Monday, even though similar comments by Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, and Trump himself had previously drawn ire in Pyongyang.

“As the president made clear, this will only end like the Libyan model ended if Kim Jong Un doesn’t make a deal,” Pence told Fox News. Using almost the exact same words, Trump stressed last week that the example of Libya showed “what will take place if we don’t make a deal.”

Both were referring to the capture and killing of Libya’s former leader Moammar Gaddafi by rebel forces in 2011, apparently as a warning to North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons.

But a closer look at history reveals that Libya may be the worst example Pence or Trump could have chosen — and may have contributed to the renewed escalation of tensions in recent days. The North African nation chose to voluntarily give up its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and to comply with Western conditions — but the United States and Europe later helped topple the Gaddafi regime, anyway. It’s easy to see why Pyongyang is becoming more agitated the more Washington brings up Libya.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
5. sometimes it's hard to tell if they really are that inept or if
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

they were trying to sabotage their own peace talks.

donnie's certainly that stupid, pence probably is, but bolton is evil enough to prefer war.

nature-lover

(1,469 posts)
11. If the US had been threatened with the "Libyan Model" we would have been livid!
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:17 AM
May 2018

Mentioning Libya set the tone. It was a nasty threat and was not misinterpreted. For it to have been repeated by high ranking officials was all out war mongering.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
10. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

It reads exactly like something an eighth-grade girl would write to "break up" with the boyfriend who dumped her in front of the whole school last week.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I know! I can't believe this was a letter coming from the President of the United
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:47 PM
May 2018

States. The sad thing is, someone else on the staff probably proofread and edited the letter and gave it a stamp of approval.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
4. His letter to Kim
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

sounded full of "anger and hostility" too. I'm guessing that it probably wasn't screened by the State Department (or maybe it even was)?

unblock

(52,227 posts)
6. to donnie, all manner of angry and hostility is completely appropriate macho moral patriotism
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:49 AM
May 2018

when he does it, that is.

it's only unacceptable "anger and hostility" when someone else does it to him.

simple.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. Good point
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:50 AM
May 2018

His base will probably applaud him for this. They are probably "enjoying themselves" as we speak.

ExciteBike66

(2,357 posts)
8. Good point
Thu May 24, 2018, 10:55 AM
May 2018

If there was no "anger and hostility", then there would already be "peace".

Kind of like how we don't feel the need to have "peace talks" with the UK...

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