Trump slams due process: 'We're the only country that has judges'

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Trump slams due process: ‘We’re the only country that has judges’


https://shareblue.com/trump-due-process-judges-courts-immigrants-fox-news/
By
Tommy Christopher -
May 24, 2018



On Fox News, Trump called the use of courts 'corrupt' and 'horrible.'

Trump’s contempt for the rule of law was on full display when he mocked the very idea of due process for immigrants, and seemed to suggest ending immigration courts altogether.

In an interview that aired during Thursday morning’s “Fox & Friends,” host Brian Kilmeade pointed out that Trump’s crackdown has contributed to a monumental backlog in immigration courts.

“You need more judges,” Kilmeade said. “How close is that?”

“Think of it, we are the only country, essentially, that has judges,” Trump said. “They want to hire thousands of judges. Other countries have, it’s called security people. People that stand there and say ‘You can’t come in.

“We have thousands of judges, and they need thousands of more judges,” Trump said. “The whole system is corrupt, It’s horrible. So, yeah, you need thousands of judges based on this crazy system.”

“Who ever heard of a system where you put people through trials?” Trump asked. “Where do these judges come from? You know, a judge is a very special person. How do you hire thousands of people to be a judge? So, it’s ridiculous. We’re going to change the system. We have no choice for the good of our country.”

Trump’s ignorance of immigration courts is staggering, even by Trump’s standards. There are only just over three hundred immigration judges in the United States, and the number of new judges needed to address the backlog is between 200 and 250, not “thousands.”

And Trump is also wrong about the level of due process afforded in immigration courts, where the government is not required to provide legal counsel and, children often end up representing themselves in perfunctory proceedings................................

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[LakeArenal]

1. Stupid due process....

Who needs it? Oh, Him and his whole famn Damily.

Well we didn’t give due process to Al Franken either.

[uppityperson]

2. What???????

[irisblue]

3. What. A. Fool. nt

[Kirk Lover]

4. That's funny coming from the asshole who has used courts to fuck others on a daily basis.

His whole rotten filled life.

[dalton99a]

18. +1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. "We are the only country that has judges"?

“Think of it, we are the only country, essentially, that has judges,” Trump said. “They want to hire thousands of judges. Other countries have, it’s called security people. People that stand there and say ‘You can’t come in.

“We have thousands of judges, and they need thousands of more judges,” Trump said. “The whole system is corrupt, It’s horrible. So, yeah, you need thousands of judges based on this crazy system.”

“Who ever heard of a system where you put people through trials?” Trump asked. “Where do these judges come from? You know, a judge is a very special person. How do you hire thousands of people to be a judge? So, it’s ridiculous. We’re going to change the system. We have no choice for the good of our country.”

WaPo gave him a couple of Pinocchios for this one.

"[W]e found that the U.S. system is remarkably similar to those in many European nations, and experts said the same process is followed by countries in other parts of the world.

Like the United States, Belgium, Britain, Croatia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Sweden and Switzerland all have executive branch officers who are set up to be free from political influence evaluating requests for refugee status or asylum in the first instance, according to a database maintained by the European Program for Integration and Migration.

As in the United States, those determinations can be appealed.

The same is true for many countries in other continents, said Alison Parker, managing director of the U.S. program at Human Rights Watch.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/17/trumps-claim-that-u-s-is-only-country-with-thousands-of-immigration-judges/?utm_term=.3a6b590c6112

[Solly Mack]

6. He needs to go.

[procon]

7. "Other countries have, it's called security people," like Judge Dredd?

Is that what Trump's thinking... transforming the country into a graphic novel with comic book cops like Judge Dredd?

[DBoon]

10. He may be referring to these types of security people

[moriah]

8. He's not fond of judges and trials because his track record winning in court is abysmal.

And he certainly could be in court again soon.

Unsurprising. Embarrassing, but unsurprising.

[murielm99]

9. Not The Onion.

[Sanity Claws]

11. He truly is ignorant

Our system is based on England, which has judges.
A bunch of other countries have a judicial system based on the British, like just about every country that had been a colony.

[pangaia]

36. I think he was actually talking about immigration judges.. well sort of...

DON't SHOOT ME..... Please..

Just correct mne if I am wrong and I will finish my Sichuan dan dan mian.

[sellitman]

12. Rec'ed to shine a light on this Monster

A new atrocity daily.

Heck sometimes multiple daily.

[lunatica]

13. Always remember he only talks to his base

It explains everything.

[struggle4progress]

14. One very nice thing about us having judges: we don't just drag our corrupt officials into some alley

and shoot them

I actually rather like this feature of our system

Many things recommend this old idea: it reduces the number of corpses in alleys, for example

There are other advantages but I don't have time to list them all

I really hope someday we might even be able to offer a similar courtesy to innocent school children, but meanwhile we should try not to lose ground

[smirkymonkey]

27. Maybe we should. It might be more of a deterrent.

God, I hate his fucking mouth. I hate everything about him, but I really, really hate his mouth. I can't even say what kind of evil fantasies it inspires.

[ProudLib72]

29. There is another alternative

Soylent GOP. Good grief, think about it. The Rump himself could feed Baltimore for a month! And before you get all grossed out just remember I'm only modifying one of Ryan's plans by substituting "GOP" for "poor people".

[dalton99a]

15. More ignorant and stupid than a 5th grader.

Far more ignorant

[Lifelong Protester]

16. What a maroon. (a la Looney Toons)

K & R

[malaise]

17. How fugging ignorant is this man

This is a vile creature

[Glimmer of Hope]

19. Holy shit. His ignorance is astounding.

[Duppers]

35. Oh hell yes! There are dog catchers with more

Knowledge of the Constitution, the structures of our government, and its rules and regulations than TRump.

His statements are jaw droppinly ignorant.

[malaise]

20. This deserves way more coverage

What the Fugg!

“Who ever heard of a system where you put people through trials?” Trump asked. “Where do these judges come from? You know, a judge is a very special person. How do you hire thousands of people to be a judge? So, it’s ridiculous. We’re going to change the system. We have no choice for the good of our country.”

[backtoblue]

25. Yes it does.

An outright attack on our Constitution and separation of powers.

The media should be shouting this from rooftops. The entire country needs to know the ramifications of his crazed, tyrannical words.

[DBoon]

26. Dictators hate any limits on their power

therefore Trump hates judges

[pangaia]

37. I still think he was referring to immigration judges...

well, sort of.... depends who is listening... for morans it is ALL judges, of course..

[Sneederbunk]

21. Doubt if he could pass a citizenship test.

[colsohlibgal]

22. Welcome To Our Nightmare

This abomination of a leader is getting more and more Evil. This is past being funny anymore.

If somehow justice is served those enablers in Congress and the Media need to pay as well. And we would need to deep six the Electoral College and join the rest of the free world in declaring the person with the most votes the winner.

[Hortensis]

23. Judges equated with corruption in his mind, at that moment,

for that subject, just before his stomach demanded a cheeseburger.

Wish I could make a bet and collect on whether he even remembers saying that. This moment, it's something else.

[spanone]

24. it appears he doesn't like our form of government.

he likes nothing but himself

[smirkymonkey]

28. Like he says to the NFL players who are protesting the recent ruling on having to stand

for the Nat'l anthem, "Maybe you should leave the country if you don't like it". I'm sure Russia would gladly take you in.

[Girard442]

30. Because real men shoot violaters where they stand and let the corpses rot where they fall.

[saidsimplesimon]

31. o TAY TAY,

Attacks on "The Rule of Law" were rare, in my memory, before 2016. Of course, dotard sounds like the majority of convicted criminals. He committed no wrong doing, the system is rigged. His supporters should donate some time to preparing his defense in the public forum, the bs insanity defense is not fooling anyone.

[Honeycombe8]

32. He's channeling Hitler again. nt

[MythosMaster]

33. Yes 60 million people voted for stupid

I am usually more reserve but I cannot be polite any more.

[Westcoast52]

34. Is This For Real?

I guess it's not an Onion joke. Trump essentially repudiated his oath of office (what's new). The existence of courts is 'corrupt'? Not doing his will is evil? Can't wait for him to send Russian tanks to surround the DOJ. This statement alone is grounds for removal. Grandpa is melting down so quickly he won't hold together long enough to hear the first indictment.

[NRaleighLiberal]

38. Zillionth confirmation he is a fucking idiot.

[BadgerMom]

39. I hope this ass has to cling to due process like a life preserver in the near term.

[flying_wahini]

40. Well he IS a fuckin Nazi, after all.

No sarcasm here.

[lpbk2713]

41. Every day is a challenge to Trump.

But he usually manages to eclipse his own stupidity of the previous day.

[red dog 1]

42. "We're the only country that has....

the Anti-Christ as it's leader!"

[MiniMe]

43. Says the guy who's first instinct is to sue anybody and everybody who does something he doesn't like