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applegrove

(118,658 posts)
Thu May 24, 2018, 04:44 PM May 2018

America's president has learned a humiliating lesson in diplomacy

The Economist

https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2018/05/24/donald-trump-cancels-his-meeting-with-kim-jong-un?cid1=cust/ddnew/email/n/n/20180524n/owned/n/n/ddnew/n/n/n/nNA/Daily_Dispatch/email&etear=dailydispatch&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily_Dispatch&utm_term=20180524

"SNIP.......


Perhaps Mr Kim will rush to repair the damage. Mr Trump is said to have such a high regard for his negotiating skills that he might not take much persuading to reconvene the cancelled talks. Yet this does not seem likely. The episode looks mainly like a high-powered exercise in educating Mr Trump in the salient fact of North Korean nuclear diplomacy: Mr Kim is not interested in negotiating away his one strategic advantage. If America has no short-term objective short of that—and Mr Trump did not obviously have one—there would be little to discuss.

Given the naivety Mr Trump has demonstrated, that is perhaps for the best. The fear that he would settle for a bad deal with Mr Kim, potentially upsetting the nuclear balance of East Asia by recognising North Korea as a nuclear power, increased with every hubristic tweet he put out on the summit. A recent suggestion by his national security adviser, John Bolton, that the administration viewed Libya’s decision to dismantle its nuclear arms programme as a model for North Korea was perhaps an effort to prevent that worrying outcome. Given that the subsequent fate of Libya’s then dictator, Muammar Qaddafi, who was toppled by an American-backed insurgency, is the thing Mr Kim fears most, it probably also helped persuade the North Koreans to torpedo the summit. Mr Bolton, who has long suggested there is nothing to be gained from such talks, is perhaps relieved.

An alternative fear is that Mr Trump may now return to considering the sort of military action against North Korea that Mr Bolton, almost alone in Washington, has advocated. It seems unlikely, however. The consensus view that there is no conscionable military solution to the North Korea problem has not shifted. Nor has the impression that Mr Trump sees foreign policy primarily as an opportunity to score a win (ideally, with a Nobel prize attached). Perhaps only Mr Bolton could view slaughter on the Korean peninsula as such.

The current international sanctions on North Korea—the toughest in over a decade—will continue. Perhaps Mr Trump will try to make them even more throttling. Yet as his administration’s attention turns increasingly to another nuclear threat, from Iran, it is not difficult to imagine him parking his ambition to rid the world of the North Korea nuclear threat. American policy towards Mr Kim’s dreadful regime has long been one of impotent neglect. It is possible Mr Trump will not revise that much.



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America's president has learned a humiliating lesson in diplomacy (Original Post) applegrove May 2018 OP
America's Lying POS Asshole has learned Cha May 2018 #1
Exactly. Trump has learned nothing at all. Solly Mack May 2018 #2
Heads of state are playing Trump like Navin R. Johnson.... Blue_Tires May 2018 #8
Nothing breaches Trump's ego. He has insulated himself with his delusions. Solly Mack May 2018 #10
Not only learned nothing but ANY defiance shown to rump is always Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #4
Right, exactly, Eliot. Fake only cares about Cha May 2018 #5
Good observations. murielm99 May 2018 #7
Learned ....lmao....the Con is a job.... pbmus May 2018 #3
This is a FARCE. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #6
Their corpulent Pas de Deux continues. maxsolomon May 2018 #9
Lots of ways for this to go even wronger gratuitous May 2018 #11
It's just the old show-biz maxim: "Who cares what they say, as long as they're talking about me!" struggle4progress May 2018 #12

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
4. Not only learned nothing but ANY defiance shown to rump is always
Thu May 24, 2018, 04:59 PM
May 2018

guaranteed to be handled by rump in the least mature, least adult manner.

We can expect vicious comments from the traitor now that could inflame the issue thus endangering both NK and SK humans.

Rump doesnt care about human life and I dont say that in snark or anger, he cant. He is a full blown sociopathic narcissist who cant cry but he cant laugh either.

He has no human emotion so the deaths of 10 million Koreans will have NO impact on him, NONE.

Cha

(297,232 posts)
5. Right, exactly, Eliot. Fake only cares about
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:10 PM
May 2018

his next LIE that keeps this monstrous charade from crumbling all around him and his doormats.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
9. Their corpulent Pas de Deux continues.
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:25 PM
May 2018

It serves both their purposes. Kim gets to make the planet pay attention to his prison camp nation, and Trump gets to brag about our sacred military instead of answering questions about conspiring (not colluding, FFS. CONSPIRING) with autocratic murderers to win the White House.

Expect verbal jabs, chest-puffing, and vague threats of nuclear annihilation to continue indefinitely.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Lots of ways for this to go even wronger
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:27 PM
May 2018

Maybe Kellyanne can distract the dotard by jingling her keys in his face.

Hey, I didn't mean it like THAT, you perv.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
12. It's just the old show-biz maxim: "Who cares what they say, as long as they're talking about me!"
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:44 PM
May 2018

Trump is not even bad at diplomacy, and he may not actually have much of an opinion about his own diplomatic skills

But he craves the limelight: the attention matters to him

So like a movie star with little actual ability, he need press coverage to stay in the public eye: a scandalous affair, a messy break-up, weeks of speculation about reconciliation, a divorce, a new romance ...

It's a well-worn script and he's practiced many versions

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