If we take the House we must have a

[wasupaloopa]

Speaker who can stand up to trump and bring him down.


I am not sure if Nancy Pelosi can do that.

I am not anti Pelosi just that I want to make sure that we get tough with trump.

[jodymarie aimee]

1. agreed

we need a young one who is not afraid to call a spade a spade.

[exboyfil]

2. Speaker of the House Clinton, Obama, or Franken?

Remember the Speaker doesn't have to be an elected Representative.

[Tarc]

23. That's a silly hypothetical not even worthy of discussion

The Constitution does not specify that it must be a member, but it has been done so ever since that it may as well be law. The uproar of putting someone unelected into a position that is 2nd in line for the presidency would be brutal.

[Calista241]

32. I agree with you 100%

but technically Obama is now ineligible to be President having already served his two terms.

[ecstatic]

37. Considering all the norms that have already been tossed out,

I think it's a great idea to select Clinton! Can we wait until after the election to announce the choice? Lol

[C_U_L8R]

3. Two words..

Adam... Schiff

[ananda]

9. Double that.

Adam Adam ... Schiff Schiff

[bearsfootball516]

4. I don't think the Speaker of the House can have much of an impact on the Senate.

Unless he/she can convince over a dozen Republicans to vote for conviction.

[exboyfil]

7. If you can't take Pence down as well

I would prefer to leave Trump in place at this point unless the GOP willingly goes on for the ride.

[wasupaloopa]

16. I am thinking more about investigations.

Not like the Repubs now

[applegrove]

5. Pelosi is a star. She's very likeable. We have nobody as great as her.

The GOP attack her because they know Pelosi is a great strength for democrats.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. And GOP are NOT the only ones who attack her. In spite of the FACTS

many think she is weak, too old, etc.

So so so sick of this absolute BULLSHIT, JUST what I was talking about earlier

NOBODY is better or tougher than NANCY PELOSI

[applegrove]

10. Pelosi Pelosi Pelosi. Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi. Right wing know

that women are the voters who will decide the midterms. So they try and destroy Dems' strongest female totem.

[BigmanPigman]

12. AGREE!

She is smart and knows what she is doing. Impeachment as an issue would be playing into the GOP's hands for the midterms. She wants to focus on Dem issues as a whole party. Impeachment would push middle of the road voters to stay home or vote GOP. 58% of Americans want Mueller's investigation to go forward and that number keeps growing. She wants Dems to focus on healthcare, taxes, infrastructure, and things that will improve people's lives.

[ProudLib72]

21. What's that say in your sig line, Eliot?

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with Pelosi.

[Eliot Rosewater]

40. I should add

and you want to complain about the AWESOME Nancy Pelosi?

[onecaliberal]

13. She has already said impeachment is off the table

[mcar]

15. Wrong

[demtenjeep]

6. How about Maxine Waters?

I love her

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Can't go wrong with Nancy or Maxine!!

[Gothmog]

11. I hate it when people attack the strongest possible leader of the Democrats

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[wasupaloopa]

17. I am not attacking her!

This is not black and white not either or!

[Gothmog]

19. Nancy Pelosi doesn't care if you hate her

I also like this article http://theweek.com/articles/761142/nancy-pelosi-doesnt-care-hate

Nancy Pelosi welcomes your hatred.

Okay, that may be an exaggeration. But when the Republican Party spends so much of its time talking about her, you'd think she'd be a bit more perturbed. And there's no sign she is.

She has good reason. We just saw yet another election in which Republicans tried everything they could do to tie the Democratic candidate to Pelosi, and he won anyway. Conor Lamb, the victor in that Pennsylvania special election, said at the campaign's outset that he wouldn't be voting for Pelosi for speaker in 2019 if he were elected, since he thought the time had come for a new generation to take control (Pelosi, who's 77, has been in Congress for over 30 years). That might not have made Pelosi feel good, but she's as hard-headed as they come, and if it helped win a seat for Democrats, she wasn't going to complain.

But we don't know whether it actually did help. Perhaps Lamb's stance defused the attack (though it certainly didn't stop Republicans from making it), or perhaps when people are voting for their member of Congress, they don't much care who the party's leader is.

That sounds like a radical thing to say, but the truth is that we have zero evidence that it actually changes any votes when every Republican candidate shouts "My opponent is just a puppet of San Francisco liberal Nancy Pelosi!" There's no question that Republican voters dislike her, but that's very different from her actually having an effect on the outcome of any race. But we've been seeing those ads for so long we just assume they must make a difference

[wasupaloopa]

22. Where do people get this shit!

I don’t hate her. I live in CA. I am proud of what she has done!

[mcar]

14. Bash Pelosi week continues

[wasupaloopa]

18. Just stop it!

We all have a right to think out loud

Don’t bully us!

[mcar]

20. WTF are you talking about?

You tell me to stop it but claim you are being bullied? What kind of odd logic is that?

[wasupaloopa]

24. It is a tactic here by DUers to dump on people

who don’t toe the line! That is bullying.

Trying to shame me is bullying,

[mcar]

25. Well alrighty then

[mopinko]

33. not bullying to shame you.

you signed the tos. this is not what you agreed to.

wait till december w this shit.

[GulfCoast66]

39. Bullying!! WTF? Really?

You have the ability(not right) to think out loud on DU. Others have the right to tell you that you are wrong. Or full of shit. That is not bullying. That is vigorously disagreeing.

Jesus. Put on your big boy or big girl pants and stop whining.

You cast aspersions on the Democratic leader in the house on Democratic Underground and then act offended when others object?

[NCTraveler]

43. Why do you tell them to stop...

And then go to your right to think out loud?

Bully?

[kimbutgar]

26. Nancy Pelosi who is one strong cookie who can outwit and really make twitler's life miserable

We need an experienced speaker who can block and stop twitlers agenda.

In 2020 if we get back the Presidency Nancy can pass the gravel on. But we need her if we win the house back.

[RandomAccess]

27. She's the strongest leader the House has probably ever had

and you think she's not strong enough?

There's NO ONE In the House who can best her. No one. She's accomplished, cunning and experienced. You can't beat that.

Let me repeat: there is NO ONE IN THE HOUSE who could do the job better. No One. And that's what we need.

[wasupaloopa]

29. I am asking a question ! I did not say what I think

about her.

Look everything doesn’t fit neatly into the DU acceptable narrative.

[RandomAccess]

31. Confused because I didn't see a single question mark

I'll take your word for it, but you really weren't / aren't clear and perhaps ought to consider editing your OP. Just a thought.

[wasupaloopa]

34. No it is that everything has to be one way

or the other. I have to either love Pelosi or hate her.

I was seeking opinion as to wether people think she is the right person to stand up to trump.

But that doesn’t fit the way a bunch of people want this board to run.

I am not at fault here in any way.

I don’t have to try and figure out how you want me to post something!

If I did not communicate my idea so that you have the same idea of what I said, it is my fault. But you want to put me on one side or the other. You did not try to answer my query.

[RandomAccess]

36. Jeez. I feel like I'm being gaslighted.

Your response is bizarre. Actually, both of them were.

So whatever, dude.

[NCTraveler]

44. You posed no question. nt.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

28. Pip pip.

[NCTraveler]

42. Like a goldfish kiss. nt.

[George II]

30. What do you mean by "take him down"? Are you implying impeachment?

If so, do you realize the requirements of impeachment and ultimately "taking him down"?

[sheshe2]

38. We already have one.

That is Nancy Pelosi.

I am not sure if Nancy Pelosi can do that.

I am not anti Pelosi just that I want to make sure that we get tough with trump.

Please state why you feel she can not do that. What are her shortcomings? What does she lack in leadership skills that will give you more confidence in her abilities? How has she failed at your toughness test?

[NCTraveler]

41. Is this a part of the advance team.

Nice preemptive strike.

[Stinky The Clown]

45. You guys are nothing if not persistent.

Having Leader Pelosi on the sidelines is a right wing/Russian wet dream. Stop pushing this shit, okay?

[Orsino]

46. Who in the House do you think would be tougher? n/t

[Caliman73]

47. I disagree. The purpose of the House is not to "take down" anyone. It is to legislate.

Nancy Pelosi is super effective at organizing the Democratic Caucus and even getting some Republicans to move on legislation. If you are only considering belligerence and partisan fighting as necessary qualities in the House Leader, then you are setting the government up for failure.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans do not care about governing. They only care about power. They legislate in ways that solidify their power but does nothing to help the people. Democrats believe in the force of government to be of help to people. Focusing on "standing up to Trump and bringing him down" would be a waste of time.

The investigation into his many unethical and likely illegal activities must continue and if they have the proof, the Democrats must not shy away from holding Trump to account. However, the job of the House is to write laws that improve the lives of the American people, to keep an eye on where our money goes. Nancy Pelosi is the perfect Democratic House leader for those actual purposes in the house.

Perhaps her second in command can be the attack dog, that is the job that is usually assigned to the Whip.

[dawg]

48. Pelosi is a brilliant leader.

Unless the Republicans decide they want Trump gone, we aren't going to impeach Trump and remove him from office. I'm sorry if you've got your hopes pinned on that. It's not going to happen.

But if we retake the House, Democrats can halt the Republican agenda of tax cuts for the wealthy and benefit cuts for the middle-class. We can also use our subpoena power to make Trump's Presidency as miserable as possible, while shining the light of discovery into all the dark little corners of his administration. And Pelosi would be a great speaker to preside over such a process.