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1934. German football team refused to give Nazi salute before game. Banned for 12 months. familiar? (Original Post) garybeck May 2018 OP
Hmm. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #1
Some context Blecht May 2018 #2
doesn't change much. garybeck May 2018 #5
The team supported the Nazis former9thward May 2018 #7
I agree in part, it does change the team's motivation from what is commonly perceived but Uncle Joe May 2018 #9
Orange assface loves and emulates Hitler and his policies on a daily basis. lark May 2018 #3
Few people who have posted this have actually read beyond the title FBaggins May 2018 #4
it clearly says that in the article. garybeck May 2018 #6
You should re-read #2 FBaggins May 2018 #8
Good find! world wide wally May 2018 #10
Not even remotely oberliner May 2018 #11

garybeck

(9,942 posts)
5. doesn't change much.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:27 PM
May 2018

people forced to give the salute.
people penalized for not doing it.

the fact that they were not saluting because they thought the other team wouldn't play (which is clearly stated in the article) doesn't seem to be that relevant. IMHO.

and Snopes says it is "mostly true."

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
9. I agree in part, it does change the team's motivation from what is commonly perceived but
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:53 PM
May 2018

it doesn't change the Nazi government's response to supposed non-adherence to saluting the state in general and specifically Hitler.

In this regard Hitler's actions are no different than Trump profaning the football players and by (extension their mothers) and calling for them to be fired.

As incredulous as it may sound Hitler; was actually milder than Trump in his response because he only banned them for a year whereas Trump threatened the players' livelihood.

lark

(23,105 posts)
3. Orange assface loves and emulates Hitler and his policies on a daily basis.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:23 PM
May 2018

Surprised he hasn't changed the military to goose stepping yet, but wouldn;t be at all surprised to see this if he steals the terms.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
4. Few people who have posted this have actually read beyond the title
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:25 PM
May 2018

The team wasn't protesting Naziism... they were worried that they wouldn't get paid if they did it. The French club said that they wouldn't play if the Germans gave the salute and if they didn't play, then the German team wouldn't get paid. The response was not a punishment for the German team (since they had no problem giving the Nazi salute in other matches)... it was a German boycott of the French teams.

garybeck

(9,942 posts)
6. it clearly says that in the article.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:29 PM
May 2018

you don't know what was in the minds of the players on either team.

the bottom line is they were penalized for not saluting.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
8. You should re-read #2
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018
the bottom line is they were penalized for not saluting.

The bottom line is that they weren't penalized at all. The French were penalized by the Germans... by refusing to have any of their teams play matches there. IOW - teams that weren't involved in the salute or lack thereof had the same results as the team that was.

you don't know what was in the minds of the players on either team.

The fact that they continued to play matches in Germany makes clear that they had no trouble with the Nazi salute or Naziism in general. There is zero evidence that they were involved in protesting anything.
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