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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:26 PM May 2018

What would you think about a show about The Conners, that killed off Roseanne?

I think John Goodman, and the rest of the cast, could carry a show without her.

They could set the time a year after her death, so it wouldn't be all about mourning her. Maybe John could be thinking about dating again. And the cause of death could be related to her opioid addition.

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What would you think about a show about The Conners, that killed off Roseanne? (Original Post) pnwmom May 2018 OP
So do I, would be karma... sunonmars May 2018 #1
Yes. The writers are great and the actors are stellar. AJT May 2018 #2
It would be better if the whole family threw her out... lame54 May 2018 #3
Only if it's a painful (make believe, of course) death. nt HopeAgain May 2018 #4
I think it would be a lovely idea. GoCubsGo May 2018 #5
No sympathy Runningdawg May 2018 #6
Wanda Sykes wins big today. louis-t May 2018 #34
She probably has creative rights Freddie May 2018 #7
Yes, the show is her oberliner May 2018 #15
They could make Dan a widower or divorced with a new girlfriend..... Little Star May 2018 #8
Dan divorces Roseanne and marries a black woman, played by The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #9
Thanks for the laugh! n/t pnwmom May 2018 #13
I would watch "Dan." joshcryer May 2018 #10
Yup. Me, too. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #11
She created those characters oberliner May 2018 #12
Then keep the actors and change the names. She doesn't own their souls. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #14
I think she does own the rights to the characters oberliner May 2018 #17
What is a character? They can be living in a new house and have new names, pnwmom May 2018 #22
I predict the other actors will move on to other projects oberliner May 2018 #25
More reason for her to grant the actors rights to their own characters. joshcryer May 2018 #38
There are intellectual copyright laws around to keep corporations from doing exactly that Bucky May 2018 #20
But intellectual copyright laws apply to specific applications. pnwmom May 2018 #23
Yeah, no network is going to try that Bucky May 2018 #27
The show wasn't failing. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #32
Perhaps the original Roseanne was just enough, and SoCalDem May 2018 #16
same here Phentex May 2018 #31
or when you DO "go home" SoCalDem May 2018 #37
R. Barr always had a gutter mouth ... I don't think I could stand to watch another ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #18
You might not, but maybe 18 million viewers could. And freed from Roseanne's input, pnwmom May 2018 #24
And if so (a better show), then my heartfelt wishes go out to them!! Good points. Nt SWBTATTReg May 2018 #26
It's shitty tv. Let it go NightWatcher May 2018 #19
It would be a shame for all those people on the show to lose their jobs. Ninsianna May 2018 #21
Shows get cancelled all the time oberliner May 2018 #28
I hope so, but they had already been renewed, cancellation Ninsianna May 2018 #40
Except with a different conservative Nevernose May 2018 #29
They did it years ago with "Valerie." Is Sandy Duncan still working? Gidney N Cloyd May 2018 #30
Hey, I might watch that. louis-t May 2018 #33
Killed? No. How about imprisonment for a hate crime Sanity Claws May 2018 #35
I think John Goodman could carry it as a widower. Good plotlines would evolve... Hekate May 2018 #36
No. Just no. jmowreader May 2018 #39
The Roseanne Show rights are controlled by Carsey-Werner Company and Jax Media Justice May 2018 #41

lame54

(35,290 posts)
3. It would be better if the whole family threw her out...
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:30 PM
May 2018

For being a racists

A death would be too sympathetic

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
5. I think it would be a lovely idea.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:32 PM
May 2018

The other cast members were what made the show. Let Dan write a novel about winning the lottery after having his wife permanently committed to a psychiatric hospital, or something like that.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
6. No sympathy
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

they knew what they were signing up for. They knew who she was. I lost all respect for them and Wanda Sykes. Wanda earned a *little* back for immediatly resigning. NO more reboots. The head has been cut off, now bury it at the crossroad and move on.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
7. She probably has creative rights
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

Didn't she develop the original show, characters etc.? Would hate to see her making $$ anyway. But yes this is a great idea. Show Dan dating again, have him marry a liberal.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
8. They could make Dan a widower or divorced with a new girlfriend.....
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:37 PM
May 2018

We could watch how the rest of the family reacts.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
9. Dan divorces Roseanne and marries a black woman, played by
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:41 PM
May 2018

Valerie Jarrett. Roseanne is hired as WH press secretary to replace Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who has been promoted to Chief of Staff because John Kelly's lies weren't quite facile enough. However, after Trump is impeached and Pence becomes president, Roseanne is forced out of her job because Mother is afraid Pence will be too erotically tempted by her. She ends up working for Infowars.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. I think she does own the rights to the characters
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:03 PM
May 2018

I am pretty sure they can't do the show without her. I also wouldn't think the actors would accede to that, given the history.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
22. What is a character? They can be living in a new house and have new names,
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:11 PM
May 2018

and there can be a back story of a wife who died a terrible death.

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
38. More reason for her to grant the actors rights to their own characters.
Tue May 29, 2018, 04:37 PM
May 2018

Because of the stupid mistake she made.

Right?

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
20. There are intellectual copyright laws around to keep corporations from doing exactly that
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:06 PM
May 2018

America's writers have not run out of ideas. They can do another show.

As much as I love that cast (and as much as I respected the original show's core message & themes), the soul of free enterprise is that sometimes business ventures fail. I can't think of a more deserving cause for such a failure.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
23. But intellectual copyright laws apply to specific applications.
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:13 PM
May 2018

If they changed the names and the setting, I don't know how she could own that.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
27. Yeah, no network is going to try that
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:17 PM
May 2018

Even if the network (miraculously) won the suit, they'd be tied up for years and spend tens of millions of dollars defending a bone-headed move to hold onto a failing show (only minus their key star), and probably piss off every single writer in Hollywood.

It's not going to happen. That's just not how Hollywood works.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
16. Perhaps the original Roseanne was just enough, and
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

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deserves its place in history as a groundbreaking show from a time long ago..just as All in the Family was...but does not deserve to be rebooted..

I never watched the new one...rarely the old one ..

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
31. same here
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018

I think it should just be left alone. As should many of the old shows. Sometimes you can't go home again.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
18. R. Barr always had a gutter mouth ... I don't think I could stand to watch another ...
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:04 PM
May 2018

similar family show remotely close to R.

Enough is enough. It's over with, move on, and I wish all of the other actors and those involved w/ the show best wishes in the future (except R...she had her chance and blew it, and she has only herself to blame, no one else).

If anything, all of these people probably could get onto the talk shows and wax on endlessly about the mutterings and idiotic statements of R.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
24. You might not, but maybe 18 million viewers could. And freed from Roseanne's input,
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:14 PM
May 2018

the writers could come up with a better show.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
19. It's shitty tv. Let it go
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:05 PM
May 2018

She did the arts and humanities a favor by running her mouth. Celebrate a small victory today and move on.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
21. It would be a shame for all those people on the show to lose their jobs.
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:06 PM
May 2018

Simply because of one racist being an idiot on twitter.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Shows get cancelled all the time
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:18 PM
May 2018

No one really gives much thought to all the people who lose their jobs, generally.

I'm sure they will find other gigs.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
40. I hope so, but they had already been renewed, cancellation
Wed May 30, 2018, 03:13 PM
May 2018

doesn't usually happen in a matter e of hours.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
29. Except with a different conservative
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:18 PM
May 2018

We could call it “All in the Family.”

Or we could just watch reruns of “All in the Family.” The issues and arguments haven’t changed that much, just the conservatives’ sanity, dignity, and devotion to a civil society.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
35. Killed? No. How about imprisonment for a hate crime
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:37 PM
May 2018

Then Dan divorces her and marries a kind woman who is a person of color.

Hekate

(90,692 posts)
36. I think John Goodman could carry it as a widower. Good plotlines would evolve...
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:39 PM
May 2018

Call the show "Dan." The shock at the sudden death of the all-consuming matriarch. Weeping and wisecracking over the grave. A massive wake, with all the neighbors bringing macaroni salad and jello salad and fried chicken. The new normal as the family learns to pull together again while squabbling as usual.

Hey, I'd watch a show called "Dan Connor."

Justice

(7,188 posts)
41. The Roseanne Show rights are controlled by Carsey-Werner Company and Jax Media
Wed May 30, 2018, 03:30 PM
May 2018

Roseanne executive producers Bruce Helford and Tom Werner. Helford was showrunner.

Casey-Warner Company is Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner. They produced original show. (also produced Cosby if you can believe that)

Jax Media is owned by Imagine Entertainment - principals of which Brian Grazer and Ron Howard.

If anything were to happen with "The Connors" need to get them onboard. I believe Roseanne Barr had producer or exec producer credit so she may need to approve as well.

ABC doesn't own show.
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