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Explains a lot. (Original Post) mac56 May 2018 OP
Very funny CatMor May 2018 #1
Man, I have to get me some of this Ambien stuff to see what all the fuss is about ProudLib72 May 2018 #2
It makes you sleepy, it doesn't make you crazy. BigmanPigman May 2018 #4
Or racist, I know ProudLib72 May 2018 #8
I feel your pain! BigmanPigman May 2018 #10
I'm cursed with sleep issues too. MontanaMama May 2018 #13
I know this might seem like unsolicited advice, but... BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #15
I'm on ssri now for anxiety ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #16
Have You Tried Valerian? Leith Jun 2018 #19
The butterfly is for Lunesta. volstork May 2018 #11
You're right! ProudLib72 May 2018 #12
That's hilarious! volstork Jun 2018 #18
I tried it and didn't like it at all. It was like one minute you were awake and coherent and the smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #17
Covfefe Rorey May 2018 #3
Believe it or not... Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #6
Melatonin Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #5
Yes, and meditating is also helpful Rorey May 2018 #7
Cool. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #9
I'd love to get dialed in to meditation. MontanaMama May 2018 #14

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. Man, I have to get me some of this Ambien stuff to see what all the fuss is about
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:46 PM
May 2018

Would have tried it earlier, but the monstrous, luminescent butterfly scared the beejeezus out of me.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. Or racist, I know
Thu May 31, 2018, 10:16 PM
May 2018

Now I take 10mg melatonin and 50mg diphenhydramine HCL before bed. I still don't sleep very well. Pot is expensive, and I'm not allowed to smoke in our townhouse anyway (also, the neighbors have three tiny kids, so they might be averse to my smoking pot when it could blow their way). I thought getting exercise would help, but no. I've come to realize that I just need to chill out about getting sleep every night. If I get only a couple hours one night, I'll make up for it the next.

BigmanPigman

(51,605 posts)
10. I feel your pain!
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:24 PM
May 2018

I have been an insomniacs for my whole life. My combo of Diph. HCI, Ambien, and smoking indica allows me to sleep for 4 hours, then I have to do a repeat. I just discovered that vaping hits me harder than smoking for some reason, and it is more economical. I am cursed by this.

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
13. I'm cursed with sleep issues too.
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:51 PM
May 2018

CBD products have been a game changer for me since I can’t smoke. Can you get your hands on some where you are?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
15. I know this might seem like unsolicited advice, but...
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jun 2018

...I have some experience in this area. I am NOT a fan of trying to fix my life - or a facet thereof - with a pill bottle but it is a very important facet, and nothing else works. Or, rather, when I found this worked, I quit looking.

When I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, my doctor prescribed amitriptyline - an SSRI. In higher doses (like triple what I take) it is an anti-depressant, but at this dosage (or less, for some people) it is quite an effective sleep aid, and has a fairly long-lasting effect as a pain-reliever, too.

The linkage of insomnia to fibromyalgia is not well-understood...sort of a chicken-or-the-egg thing...but it is working fairly well for me. Without it, I sleep miserably. 4 hours is a good night, and that will erode from 4 to about 1 or 1 and a half. With it, I usually get about 6, which is not too bad. Once a week, or fortnight, I get 7 or 8.

It is touted as non-habit-forming, and here, at least, pretty cheap. I buy it several months at a time, so the exact price has slipped my mind, but I think $8 or $9 a month seems right. If you have somewhere to be in the morning, you might have to allow for a longer waking period, which is kind of a downside - the meds hangover. For me, it is worth it.

Talk to your doctor - it might help you, too.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. I'm on ssri now for anxiety
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 12:32 AM
Jun 2018

I've been on it for eight or nine years. It's been long enough now that I can't remember if it helped me get to sleep in the beginning or not. I'd bet that it does do at least a little good even now (less anxiety, better sleep). I tried something else that was a prescription. I can't remember the name of it. It knocked me out but left me really groggy the next day, so I stopped taking it.

Trust me, every few years I go on another search for better sleep quest. Things that work for a couple weeks lose their effectiveness in the long run. I've just learned to deal with one or two nights in a row of insomnia. Fortunately, I can usually make up the lost sleep sometime later in the week.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
19. Have You Tried Valerian?
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

I tend to develop resistance to drugs very quickly so I have to bounce around between allergy medicine, Nyquil, melatonin, valerian, and a couple beers because each of them just doesn't work more than twice in a row.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
11. The butterfly is for Lunesta.
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:27 PM
May 2018

As in luna moth. But I feel you-- who wants alien moths flying around at night?!?!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. I tried it and didn't like it at all. It was like one minute you were awake and coherent and the
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:07 AM
Jun 2018

next you were just dead to the world. I took some one night and was on the phone w/ a friend and he said all of a sudden I just dropped off the line. The same thing happened to me on a plane where my travel partner said I was up and chatting and then I was suddenly out and un-wakeable. I just didn't like that kind of drastic shift. There was no gradual feeling of drifting off to sleep for me, it was very sudden and I remembered nothing.

I still have sleep problems and have been offered the drug a few times by doctors, but have refused. It kind of scares me.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
6. Believe it or not...
Thu May 31, 2018, 10:10 PM
May 2018

its my thought that covfefe was a signal, or a hint, or a sign to do something. He's paranoid about using the phone bc he knows how he taped everyone and their sister on his. AND they're a lookin at him real closely. He's just that stupid.

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
14. I'd love to get dialed in to meditation.
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:52 PM
May 2018

My monkey mind is out of control. Something shiny! Gah!!

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