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White privilege in a nutshell (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2018 OP
Same judge? Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #1
Yep. RVN VET71 Jun 2018 #2
It's also black oppression. Let's not privilege white privilege here. ancianita Jun 2018 #3
Horrified by what our country has become? thbobby Jun 2018 #4
Bad example. Oerdin Jun 2018 #5
Huh??? Red Pest Jun 2018 #8
Different judges in different states sl8 Jun 2018 #17
I agree ; at least explain the states, the charges and treestar Jun 2018 #16
You can't be serious! Duppers Jun 2018 #20
Sickening. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #6
White privilege exists and is serious, don't water it down with piss-poor stories like this Tarc Jun 2018 #7
Nobody thinks he doesn't deserve punishment gollygee Jun 2018 #9
The solution is to raise the penalty on the white pedophile Tarc Jun 2018 #12
I said he deserves punishment gollygee Jun 2018 #13
Lol. Tipperary Jun 2018 #10
That's highly inappropriate. We can discuss the appropriateness of the punishment Tarc Jun 2018 #11
That is not vernacular. Tipperary Jun 2018 #14
That is just freaking bad English. Blue_true Jun 2018 #15
Have you not heard of code-switching? gollygee Jun 2018 #18
So you are claiming that kid would stand before a Court and give an eloquent and powerful closing Blue_true Jun 2018 #21
Shoes? That is f'ed up. Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2018 #19

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. Horrified by what our country has become?
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:39 AM
Jun 2018

Fuck no. I am horrified by what our country has always been (at least in my lifetime). Rage doesn't begin to describe what should be felt by this.

Oerdin

(1,037 posts)
5. Bad example.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 08:00 AM
Jun 2018

That is a really bad example as you don't list the differences between the cases. I am 100% certain that if we read the individual cases and compare the differences in law between different states we will find the reasons without resorting to your racist antics.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
8. Huh???
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jun 2018

Are you being sarcastic? Really, theft of shoes v rape ... of a 5 yr old? Already stated above that it was the same judge in both cases. And you accuse the poster of racist antics. Wow. Is this a case of trolling?

sl8

(13,786 posts)
17. Different judges in different states
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jun 2018

Burgess was sentenced by Judge Ron Northup, in Stockton, CA.

Davis was sentenced by Judge Bobby Peters, in Columbus, GA.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. I agree ; at least explain the states, the charges and
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jun 2018

the possible penalties. Even so, it sounds disproportionate in the extreme, but every one of these comparisons will suffer from the failure to note the different parts of the country, laws, judges, etc. The age difference could be a factor - is the 79 year old ill at this point. The 15 year old needs to learn whereas the old man won't.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
7. White privilege exists and is serious, don't water it down with piss-poor stories like this
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jun 2018

The 15 yr old arranged to meet the shoe seller, kid said "these shoes is took", friend pulls a gun.

Sorry, but that's being an accomplice to an armed robbery. Zero sympathy here whatsoever.

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article212275254.html

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. Nobody thinks he doesn't deserve punishment
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 08:45 AM
Jun 2018

He committed this crime at 15 and doesn't deserve to go to adult prison. And, conversely, the child-rapist does. It's the comparison of the crimes, not a statement that the 15-year-old doesn't deserve to go to a juvenile detention facility. Adult prison for a first offense? Where nobody got killed? And the child-rapist only got house arrest?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
12. The solution is to raise the penalty on the white pedophile
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 09:04 AM
Jun 2018

Not lessen it on the black teen. Sorry, but armed robbery is a bit of a bright line for me.

If we're supportive of the Parkland students as they go after the gun lobby, we really can't turn around an ignore gun crimes when they happen.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
13. I said he deserves punishment
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jun 2018

so I'm not ignoring anything. But 15-year-olds used to only get charged as adults when they had killed someone, and then not always.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
11. That's highly inappropriate. We can discuss the appropriateness of the punishment
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 09:03 AM
Jun 2018

without resorting to ridiculing African-American Vernacular. C'mon now...

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
14. That is not vernacular.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jun 2018

I know no one who talks like that...black or white, unless they have poor English skills.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. That is just freaking bad English.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jun 2018

What chance do you think a person who speaks like that has of getting a meaningful job? We need to be pressuring kids to learn to speak properly, not hand waving speech behavior that will insure economic hardship. A person can yell systemic racism all they want, the ability to speak and write clearly is simple vital in business and all aspects of a working society.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. So you are claiming that kid would stand before a Court and give an eloquent and powerful closing
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:24 PM
Jun 2018

argument, when it appears he has a problem forming a clear sentence. Neither of us was there to witness what he said, so please don't pull the "you weren't there thing on me". What I read in the article was a kid using English in a way that will get him nowhere in life.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
19. Shoes? That is f'ed up.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jun 2018

Way too extreme a punishment for the crime. I hope some kind lawyer out there will help that boy to get more lenient sentence.

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