Avenatti: "If you thought the audio released yesterday was disgusting..."

[triron]

Link to tweet

[kstewart33]

1. So hoping the Trump tapes are released or leaked.

It will be so entertaining to hear/see the Trump supporters attempt to legitimize Trump's statements on those tapes.

[brewens]

2. It would be priceless to have him slamming his supporters. Like, "these idiots will believe

anything I tell them."

[56miSSie]

4. Did you ever see "A Face in the Crowd"

starring Andy Griffith?

[volstork]

12. A frighteningly prescient film.

Definitely worth a look for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Excellent turns by Andy Griffin, Patricia Neal, and Walter Matthau.

[brewens]

15. I have my own copy. Andy's finest work. It should be shown in every high school

government class. I could see that causing quite a stink in some areas.

[kstewart33]

20. I saw it many years ago.

And remember it well. Loved the scene where he is finally exposed.

A great movie.

[nolabear]

36. It's also a perfect depiction of a narcissistic breakdown.

I love that film. And that scene where Rhodes’ delusions crumble is a textbook look at extreme pathological narcissism breaking apart to reveal the fear and hysterical thinking it’s designed to cover.

That’s one reason I both thinknthe pressure should be applied to Spanky nonstop and fear the same.

[mucifer]

53. I appreciated the beginning of the movie where he draws you in and you can see his appeal.

[nolabear]

56. Oh yeah. And Patricia Neal was the perfect foil.

No dewy eyed deb. She fell for the charm and then saw it for what it was. And she had to make a choice that was complicated.

Andy Griffith was underrated. Possibly because he reminded me of my father he was one of the scariest villains I’ve ever seen.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. You mean like this?

God knows why, but that didn't work.

[Mr.Bill]

5. It will only reinforce

their worship of their precious alpha male.

[NewJeffCT]

10. Trump is a fake Alpha Male

A real alpha male wouldn't fire somebody via Twitter - he'd do it face to face

A real alpha male wouldn't turn US foreign policy into a full scale retreat from the world - his policy is speak loudly and carry a little twig.

A real alpha male wouldn't need a fixer to pay off his mistresses.

[Nay]

13. Yeah, but Trump is an omega male's idea of an alpha male. nt

[RoBear]

28. Yeah,

when you're at the bottom of the stack, two notches up looks high....

[LiberalLovinLug]

37. Yup. What a man! He's right, I'm as dumb as a stump. God bless Trump!

[Cracklin Charlie]

3. I did think those tapes were disgusting.

Just gross.

Can’t hardly wait for more.

[lunatica]

17. The tapes show Michael Cohn to

be a spittle spewing, screaming, hysterical bully.

[DesertRat]

6. Hopefully soon!

[FakeNoose]

11. Masterful

[lunatica]

18. Very true!

[Generic Other]

24. Liars over easy

Fried road apples.

[Comatose Sphagetti]

55. What has 14 teeth and an IQ of 50?

The first 10 rows at a trump rally.

[Dem_4_Life]

7. Oh please release them soon!

I can't wait!

[womanofthehills]

19. I'm thinking they will probably release them closer to election time

Hopefully, they will drip them out one by one.

[NCTraveler]

9. Has he said he has heard the tapes? nt

[DRoseDARs]

14. Didn't the judge instruct him to zip it? Entertaining, but endangering case. nt

[lunatica]

16. No

The judge said that if he was joining the legal team in the specific court case that he will be ordered not to talk publicly. That it was OK for him to talk if he was not part of the prosecution. Avenatti said he doesn’t need to be part of that legal team.

The judge told him she was not against his talking per se, but that if he was part of the team he would not be allowed to talk about it. I saw him explain this when he was on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show that night.

[PJMcK]

47. Just to reinforce your point

Judge Kimba Wood is presiding over the Federal case against Cohen in the Southern District of New York. Mr. Avenatti chose to withdraw his request to be admitted to the case without prejudice, which means he can request to be admitted at a later date.

Meanwhile, Stormy Daniels' cicvil case was filed in California and Mr. Avenatti has not been told by that judge to shut up.

[lunatica]

54. Thanks!

There are so many people who think Judge Wood was being critical and punitive.

[trueblue2007]

21. TRUMP IS A CROOK .... LOCK HIM UP in a 3 foot by 3 foot cell and 5 feet tall.

[triron]

22. And send it to Antarctica.

[trueblue2007]

33. send HIM to a Lion Sanctuary!!!! Hungry hungry lions.

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[flying_wahini]

35. Or to the elephants to stomp on

[Honeycombe8]

23. Does this mean he's heard them or read transcripts? nt

[Calista241]

25. I don't know if any Trump tapes will be made available.

Trump would have been talking to Cohen, and any conversations about any ongoing legal activity will be protected by privilege. There's nothing illegal about what Trump did with Stormy Daniels, and she agreed to take the money. I'd be almost certain that those tapes are included in the 252 items the Special Master has received back from Trump and the Trump Org as privileged.

We know Trump is paranoid. I'd be highly skeptical if Trump would knowingly tolerate a 3rd party being involved in any legal conversations with his 'fixer.'

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. The attorney-client privilege applies only when a client is seeking legal advice.

It's actually a pretty narrow privilege; just because you're speaking with a lawyer doesn't mean your conversation is privileged. If Trump's conversations with Cohen had to do with whether Cohen has successfully bullied or strong-armed somebody, or Trump is directing him to bully or strong-arm somebody, that's not seeking legal advice and it would not be protected. And if someone else was in the same room while the phone conversations took place, the communications wouldn't be privileged regardless of their content. Most of what Cohen did for Trump, by Trump's own implicit admission, was not legal work. He was acting as a fixer/bag man, not a lawyer.

[Pepsidog]

30. Or talking about circumventing campaign finance laws....

[radical noodle]

40. If it was related to criminal activity

it is not protected.

[Calista241]

42. Only if Cohen is a co-conspirator.

If Trump confessed to his lawyer some crime that Cohen isn’t involved in, that is a priviledged conversation.

[radical noodle]

50. I doubt that is possible

Cohen was always the fixer.

[Calista241]

52. So. He arranged legal agreements on behalf of our chief doofus.

That’s not illegal. Yelling at someone on the phone is not illegal. Threatening someone with a lawsuit is not illegal.

If he threatened someone with violence, or threatened someone’s loved ones, that’s illegal. And if Trump was on the phone, then he’s complicit, but not otherwise.

[blake2012]

57. Amazing. Everything you just said is completely wrong

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. I hope this isn't just a tease.

[Pepsidog]

31. So far he has lived up to the hype.

[JenniferJuniper]

32. I'm sure it isn't but

I'm just as sure whatever they are won't affect Trump's popularity level in any adverse way.

[oberliner]

39. This is all based on a comment opposing counsel made in the hearing

Saying that if there were tapes, they were under lock and key, and would not be released.

[trixie2]

29. I am really liking this guy

[empedocles]

34. Release 1 tape, 1 day at a time

[oberliner]

38. He doesn't have any tapes to release

He is saying that opposing counsel does, based on the "lock and key" comment during the hearing.

[triron]

41. And you claim this based on what?

[heaven05]

44. his 'legal' opinion nt

which as I have read, leaves a lot to be desired. I hope there will be tapes of this depraved madman called potus.

[oberliner]

45. From the transcript of the hearing

Link to tweet

Cohen's atty Ryan: "The audiotapes that we have, if any, that pertain to him, under lock and key, they are controlled by my law firm, TO, and POTUS, to the extent that there may be a claim of privilege related to them. I am unaware of any release of an audio file of this kind."
Avenatti, some 4 pages later in the transcript:

"Mr. Ryan states there are recordings relating to my client. They are under lock and key. He stated that on the record. So that's now been confirmed."

[heaven05]

43. I believe cohen

is going to be a sacrificial lamb from this corrupt depraved administration. Will get jail time at one of the resorts for special people. Then be pardoned. Write a book, go on a speaking tour blasting liberals and lefties. Make a bundle of money.

[oberliner]

48. Sounds about right

[BobTheSubgenius]

49. Hasn't he suffered enough?

[heaven05]

51. lol

[DeminPennswoods]

46. Esquire profile of Avenatti

Link: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a21048894/michael-avenatti-interview-trump-afraid-of-me/

[empedocles]

58. Thank you