MSNBC just sent this statement from Joy Reid

[oberliner]

Here's a link:

Link to tweet

[Exotica]

1. I hope they stand by her

[Mosby]

2. What did she say about Israel?

[Exotica]

8. here

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10682729

cheers

[pnwmom]

75. I don't think her remarks were that terrible. She was simply saying that the

Palestinians have a point of view that people should consider, too.

And their point of view is that they had been living in Palestine for hundreds of years when, after the war, Europeans decided they should create a state of Israel in the Middle East. But the Jewish people they wanted to move there had, by and large, been living in Europe for generations.

I had a wonderful high school teacher who was Jewish. He invited both Jewish and Palestinian speakers to come to the class, and offer their differing views on Israel. That's when I first realized how complicated the situation was and that both sides had good reasons for their points of view.

[Skidmore]

3. link? nt

[oberliner]

21. Added a link

Link to tweet

[msongs]

4. broken link nt

[oberliner]

22. Link added - thanks!

[spanone]

5. MSNBC Stands By Joy Reid After More Offensive Blog Posts Revealed

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/msnbcs-joy-reid-says-shes-embarrassed-more-old-blog-posts-revealed-1116462

The MSNBC host released a new statement on Friday, "apologizing again" for her past writing, and the network backed her up.
MSNBC is backing Joy Reid, even as more of her controversial, offensive blog posts have been resurfaced.

The cable network issued a statement of support for Joy Reid on Friday, coupled with a new apology from the host about her past blog posts. However, she did not take ownership of a new set of posts allegedly written by her more than a decade ago.

"Some of the things written by Joy on her old blog are obviously hateful and hurtful," the network said Friday. "They are not reflective of the colleague and friend we have known at MSNBC for the past seven years. Joy has apologized publicly and privately and said she has grown and evolved in the many years since, and we know this to be true."

[Tipperary]

6. Wow, she sure seems to have a bad history of blog posts.

Must be embarrassing.

[NCTraveler]

10. See the second sentence of the image in the op. nt

[Tipperary]

11. So now she is coming clean about it?

Why the earlier obvious lies? I am disappointed.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. That's what bugs me the most... the obvious lies. Joy should have come clean right from the start...

but, not a reason to force her to resign like some have advocated.

[Raven123]

13. Agreed

I'm not sure how to interpret her request to judge her by the "totality of her work." That phrase has merit. However, lately it seems I hear it used to suggest we ignore the past. Problem for me is when that past reveals so many issues I have trouble accepting a simple assertion of change. It's hard when I just see these folks on TV. I don't know them any other way.

[OnDoutside]

19. Having backed her after the previous historical tweets, you can see the RW will keep

coming back. I hope MSNBC stand strong but there's only so much they will be willing to take.

[Blue_Tires]

34. Can you stand by everything YOU wrote online 11-13 years ago?

Because I promise you that the ratfuckers digging through her archives have posted much, much worse...

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. The concerned people about Joy or Sam Bee are almost ALL of them unable to

show a multi year history of being OPPOSED openly and loudly to whatever it is. They simply say these things as a way to harm honest journalists credibility.

I am sick of it HERE, HERE, I dont want to see it

HERE

anymore


not

FUCKING HERE

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. SHOCKED I tell you that you are responding this way

[SpicyBoi]

9. I thought she said hackers made these posts

Now she admits them? Yikes.

[Tipperary]

12. Yes, this story seems to be unraveling.

A damn shame.

[janterry]

33. I wonder if she hadn't come out with that whole "I was hacked" mess

what would have happened. What if she just told the truth from the beginning. Would she have been fired?

I think there has to be space for people to change/evolve and do that in a public space. I worry that people feel backed into a corner - if they tell the truth, their career is over - if they lie, well, we'll catch it eventually - and that will end their career.

I agree it's a shame. But I think it's also about us (as a society) and how we come to understand people who make mistakes, are fallible, or even some who have to learn the 'hard' way. How do we allow that and remain committed to integrity?

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. Yikes, eh...Yeah, sure...you betcha...uh huh...IGNORE

[workinclasszero]

14. How many of her accusers could have things in their past dredged up

that would be totally embarrassing today?

This is just another Al Franken hit job backed by the GOP, IMO.

Joy Reid is an effective voice on the left and an intelligent black woman which they really hate so they must destroy her!

[Tipperary]

16. Have you read the latest?

Comments about Mexicans? The homophobic posts? Photoshop of McCain as a school shooter? 9/11 conspiracy theories? Links to Alex Jones crap? This is troubling to me, and I am a fan.

[workinclasszero]

18. I swear some democrats just want to lose

Look at what $%^&* TRUMP said every damn day of his filthy life! So the right wing WHITE MAN gets a pass while the LIBERAL BLACK WOMAN gets lynched, is that it?

Same as it ever was!!!

No I haven't seen the latest and fuck it, she apologized and look at her life recently. Who exactly would benefit from the takedown of Joy Reid, huh?????????????????????????????????????????????

After Trump, Pence, Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity etc (ALL WHITE, ALL MALE, gee what a coincidence huh? ) are forced off the air and out of public life THEN you can go after Joy Ann Reid!!!!

IMO!

[OnDoutside]

20. After what was done to Al Franken, ANYONE could be next.

[workinclasszero]

24. Yes as long as they are liberal democrats

You can be an evil racist bastard and get away with murder of course if you are a white male republican!

But if you are a democrat(especially a woman and double for a black woman!) your entire life from birth to date better be as pure as the driven snow or you will be shamed and silenced by your own allies much less the fucking GOP!

[OnDoutside]

25. Yes, even with that slob in the White House.

[cwydro]

26. I agree.

But whataboutism is not a great defense.

[peabody]

76. How many damn times does she have to apologize

before you get past it? She's been apologizing and apologizing. Currently she's a strong advocate for minority rights and has been out there hammering on Republicans. So stop shooting down people trying to push a progressive agenda. Grow up and realize people can evolve, learn, and mature.

[dsc]

15. So just what is the story now?

I am honestly confused.

[Tipperary]

17. Google it. I just did and was very surprised/horrified.

[oberliner]

23. I wish she had said something about the hacking claim

Does she still believe she was hacked? If so, has she any evidence? If not, I think it would be good to say she was mistaken about that.

[USALiberal]

72. I agree, that false claim made it a lot worse. nt

[Stargleamer]

27. This statement on "Blitzer being too soft on Jews" needs to be addressed too

did she mean Israelis? Did she clarify?

[oberliner]

28. She actually said Israelis, not Jews

[Stargleamer]

29. Thanks. ..

the right wing outlets are all indicating she said "Jews". Misleading as they always do.

[oberliner]

31. Yeah - that's what they do

[grossproffit]

59. The majority of Israelis ARE Jews.

[farmbo]

62. But the majority of Jews are NOT Israelis

And the majority of Jews throughout the world probably agree that the international community needs to stand up to the Israeli government.
The present RW administration in Israel does not represent our Jewish populations in North America and Europe... and people should quit trying to equate the two. (Just as Trump likes to equate all Latino immigrants with the M13 street gang).
Like the US Administration, the Israeli government is now in a very dark place.

Google: IDF sniper... 21 year old girl volunteer Gaza medic.

[grossproffit]

73. There are less than 15 million Jews worldwide. Jews are the largest Israeli ethnic group.

The majority of Jews worldwide live in Israel.

[cwydro]

32. Photoshopping his head on a school shooter?

Please provide a DU link.

[octoberlib]

55. From USA Today

Her apology comes less than a day after Buzzfeed News unearthed an October 2007 post from the news host's old blog, The Reid Report, in which she apparently satirized McCain's promise, during the 2007 presidential campaign, to “follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell.”

At the end of the post, there's an image of Seung-Hui Cho, who killed himself after an April 2007 shooting rampage at Virginia Tech that left 32 dead and 17 wounded, with McCain's face photoshopped atop Cho's body.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/06/01/msnbcs-joy-reid-apologizes-doctored-image-john-mccain-old-site/664204002/




Unless advertisers start dropping her, I don' t think they'll fire her.

[SCVDem]

35. Is she president?

Then this is gop enabling bullshit and should be buried.

Dump is what matters. Never lose sight of that.

[oberliner]

36. She issued the statement

So presumably she wants people to read it (no pun intended).

[SpicyBoi]

39. So we shouldn't be upset at Roseanne

Because she’s not President? Wut?

[YOHABLO]

37. Joy better hope there's not a ''Kirsten Gillibrand" out there beating the war drum.

[Blue_Tires]

40. Slow news day, the smear squad is out for Joy's blood

and suckers are just lapping it up...

[oberliner]

42. This statement is from Joy Reid herself

[Blue_Tires]

43. I mean the whole faux 'controversy' that spurred the statement...

Tomi Lahren never has to apologise, much less explain and neither do Hannity, Carlson, Beck, Alex Jones, Drudge, Bannon, Gorka, Cernovich, Trump, Trump Jr., or any of a thousand other people I could name...

[RhodeIslandOne]

61. And they are all shit on and laughed at by anyone with a slice of credibility here. n/m

[Eliot Rosewater]

54. Yep, and some folks will NEVER miss an opportunity to spread anything negative

about someone on the side of RIGHTEOUSNESS, law and order.

No matter Joy's past, we know who she is TODAY

[Judi Lynn]

69. They certainly are, not a doubt in the world they are trying to destroy her.

When you see the direct ties between opening articles, or comments, and their authors going back forever, the smear stories targeting effective Democrats or voices who happen to come from people in minority groups, any possible mystery disappears.

Disgusting, repugnant, nasty.

You are totally correct. It can't be denied by any argument. Never.

[CentralMass]

80. She wrote some pretty offensive things and then lied about her blog being hacked.

Its not a big issue to me because I don't have cable or watch MSNBC, or Faux but I do hold everyone to the same standard. I think that she has some journalistic integrity issues and may still harbor some offensive beliefs.

[Adrahil]

41. So long as they support Trump....

I am uninterestedin any complaints from the right. Fuck ‘em. This is smashmouth and we need to learn to play it.

[Moostache]

46. You are goddamn right!!!

I don't care if Joy Reid is guilty as sin in her past of writing things that may look bad upon reflection a decade later....Christ, I pop off and say things off the cuff that I am embarrassed by 10 MINUTES later, OFTEN! The fact is unless she is actively holding positions that are discriminatory or defamatory NOW and continuing to do so, then it is time to develop the GOP blind eye here people...

EVERYONE says stupid things in their lives...many times we are ignorant and need to better educate ourselves on issues and we speak out when we should probably listen...but unless someone is currently a bad person and impervious to change or actively seeking to hurt or oppress others, we cannot keep acquiescing to right wing demands for false equivalency blood...

FUCK them, they can learn to live with disappointment as I have for the last 40 years. We do not need to actively participate in GOP-centric mob mentality any longer...

Joy, I got you back...unless you wrote these things AFTER you initially apologized for discretionary lapses of judgment, then you keep on doing you and damn the critics and enablers!!!

[jalan48]

44. Why on earth did she post all this crazy shit and then claim she was hacked?

[Dreamer Tatum]

45. Because she's a liar and is now not credible nt

[Tipperary]

49. She is obviously a liar.

This is disappointing.

[Eliot Rosewater]

57. Uh huh, yeah, you betcha.

[Eliot Rosewater]

56. Uh huh...yeah, you betcha

[Tipperary]

67. Wow, what a brilliant riposte!

So clever you used it twice!

[metroins]

47. I never really liked her as a journalist

But I've said stupid things when I was younger.

If she's a different person now then it shouldn't matter.

Trump back then is the same today... He hasn't learned.

Joy in my opinion tries to do good things. I just personally never liked her shows.

[HenryWallace]

48. Finally

For the first time ever, Joy Ann Reid is in trouble for telling the truth. Literally nothing makes sense anymore.

Moral of the story:

.... Trust Corporate media a little less.

[Sophia4]

50. Everyone deserves the right to learn from his/her mistakes.

Remorse has to be very sincere.

This goes for everyone. Not just Joy Reid, but also Samantha Bee and even Roseanne. The issue is whether a person has really learned or not.

Compassion is important. For all of us. And toward everyone.

[oberliner]

65. The only issue I have is with her claim of her blog being hacked

[Demsrule86]

77. alright then...I don't and MSNBC better be very careful...Joy has a great following...I love Joy.

[PatrickforO]

58. Oh, for God's sake!

Let's all leave Joy alone.

We've got bigger fish to fry, let me tell you...

Giant tax cut for billionaires -> Bloated $2 trillion deficit -> substantial raising of interest rates -> decreased money supply -> decreased demand for goods and services -> layoffs.

Concurrently:
Ill-conceived trade war -> dramatically decreased sales of American crops and other products, substantially hurting farmers -> higher prices on virtually all consumer goods.

Concurrently:
Trump's 'America First' policy -> weak dollar -> much higher gasoline prices.

Concurrently:
Trump's immigration-hate policies -> ICE with far too much power and too little accountability, acting like the Gestapo -> children ripped from their parents at the border.

Concurrently:
Trump enriching himself and family through misuse of his presidential powers.

Concurrently:
Taking us out of the Iran nuclear deal further destabilizes the region, compounded by other stupid policies surrounding Iraq, Libya and Syria.

Concurrently...you get the picture.

Oh, and let's not forget the GIANT and pervasive risk of Russian hacking into power grid, finance houses, government, voter rolls - you name it, cozy Bear is cozying right up to it.

Joy Reid wrote some dumb stuff a few years ago...la de dah - she's apologized. Now, let's move on.

Seriously, let's get with the program and focus on flipping as many elected offices as humanly possible over to D in November.

[melman]

60. Any updates on that FBI investigation?

[oberliner]

66. She does not seem to be mentioning that

One way or the other.

That's honestly the only part of this that matters to me.

[cwydro]

68. I do t care what she wrote before.

I don’t like the lying about the “hacking.”

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. Yeah, that was bad too.

[NastyRiffraff]

63. VERY interesting that this crap is resurrected again

Joy has spoken her mind recently, about a certain Senator. Suddenly, this is coming up again. Coincidence? Or, Oh the OUTRAGE!

[oberliner]

64. What senator?

[Judi Lynn]

70. She's guilty of commenting while black, guilty of commenting while being progressive. n/t

[USALiberal]

71. The stuff is really from her. Disgusting IMO, if it was a GOPer we would be pissed off! nt

[grossproffit]

74. Yep.

[Raine]

79. Yes exactly. nt

[peabody]

78. They're going to leak a piece at a time

and drag her through the wringer for as long as possible, realizing other than an apology there isn't much she can do to change her past. This is like what the third release of material from a long defunct blog? It's an evil scheme but it has hooked some people here. All we can do is to speak up in support of her as often as possible.